GT #67: Bullets @ HEAT 7:30 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM)

[CobraCommander]

Do you know what this game and the Utah game have in common other than piss poor defense? Many here do...most wont say...but the rest of us know it

Spoiler:

and understand that we are not freaking better withoutJOHN MOTHER FREAKING WALL

I think it also had to do with the fact that Washington was playing a back to back. I believe that Washington has lost these games including the Hornets, Warriors,
and this one.

The Wizards ceiling is certainly higher with Wall. However, the Wizards didn't really take care of business with Wall against below .500 teams like the Lakers, Suns, and Mavericks.

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Thank you! This is a complete perspective... We got punked by the Lakers early in the season... With Wall. With Gortat's bragging on Twitter or wherever being part of the problem. He thought Wall was going to deal with Lonzo Ball.

If John plays with indifference and he dominates the ball as much as Bradley Beal; that doesn't make the other players on this team better.

I would rather see a purposeful second unit with Satoransky in than an unfocused group making 120 million between them. (Combined salaries of Otto, John and Brad).

Nah man.,..I’m not buying this. Losing games vs all time legendary beat downs....there is a difference. Sato is being defending against now...people KNOW he is good and they game plan him... We will see if he can handle it...we know wall can.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I think it also had to do with the fact that Washington was playing a back to back. I believe that Washington has lost these games including the Hornets, Warriors,
and this one.

The Wizards ceiling is certainly higher with Wall. However, the Wizards didn't really take care of business with Wall against below .500 teams like the Lakers, Suns, and Mavericks.

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Thank you! This is a complete perspective... We got punked by the Lakers early in the season... With Wall. With Gortat's bragging on Twitter or wherever being part of the problem. He thought Wall was going to deal with Lonzo Ball.

If John plays with indifference and he dominates the ball as much as Bradley Beal; that doesn't make the other players on this team better.

I would rather see a purposeful second unit with Satoransky in than an unfocused group making 120 million between them. (Combined salaries of Otto, John and Brad).

Nah man.,..I’m not buying this. Losing games vs all time legendary beat downs....there is a difference. Sato is being defending against now...people KNOW he is good and they game plan him... We will see if he can handle it...we know wall can.

We need to have Sessions on the court with Sato and Sato will ball his ass off. Our second unit can have three guards being Meeks, Sessions and Satoransky.

Kelly Oubre should be with John Wall and the other starters.

[TheBabyMaker]

Durant

He doesn't even acknowledge what the Wizards were doing. No nuance to his quote... should have been.

“Well, the Wizards have clearly stepped it up with John out of the lineup. I am sure they will be even better when he returns,” Durant said after his Golden State Warriors held their shoot-around at Capital One Arena on Wednesday morning before facing the streaking Wizards. “I learned valuable lessons when I had to watch the games".

“I am sure that John is doing the same. But, if you say you don’t need one of the best point guards in the league on your team, I don’t know if you should be in this league as a front office exec. You definitely need a guy like that.”

Read the quote and understand it from an actual NBA Superstar and not a wannabe internet armchair coach.

Oh, I read the quote - I just wouldn't read to much into a "star" defending a "star". I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

Just saying... his response wasn't nuanced and doesn't acknowledge what is happening with the Wizards.

You think that what the Wizards are doing is some type of rare phenomenon.? They still have more talent and 2 other max players out there on the court with Wall out. How many of these other half assed teams can say that?

Look at the Pels situation they had won 10 straight with out Boogie and just recently lost when Davis went out. Does anyone actually think the Pels are better without Boogie?

I don't know I guess i'm sensing some negative trend here.

[TheBabyMaker]

I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

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Oh yeah you mean the rich Billionares that never played a lick of basketball and did not earn their fortunes running NBA franchises.

[dckingsfan]

I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

Oh yeah you mean the rich Billionares that never played a lick of basketball and did not earn their fortunes running NBA franchises.

Those are owners not GMs

[dckingsfan]

Read the quote and understand it from an actual NBA Superstar and not a wannabe internet armchair coach.

Oh, I read the quote - I just wouldn't read to much into a "star" defending a "star". I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

Just saying... his response wasn't nuanced and doesn't acknowledge what is happening with the Wizards.

You think that what the Wizards are doing is some type of rare phenomenon.? They still have more talent and 2 other max players out there on the court with Wall out. How many of these other half assed teams can say that?

Look at the Pels situation they had won 10 straight with out Boogie and just recently lost when Davis went out. Does anyone actually think the Pels are better without Boogie?

I don't know I guess i'm sensing some negative trend here.

Yes, I think NO is better off without Cousins... so I guess I am negative

But it isn't about a player being Max... it is about how good a player is playing at that time, no? And how well the team is playing together as well? Do we have a better winning percentage before or after the Wall injury? Are we playing better team basketball since then?

That is the nuance that Mr. Durant is missing. And if you like ex-basketball players as GMs, you gotta love EG

[TheBabyMaker]

I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

Oh yeah you mean the rich Billionares that never played a lick of basketball and did not earn their fortunes running NBA franchises.

Those are owners not GMs

Yes I stand corrected, sorry.

[TheBabyMaker]

Oh, I read the quote - I just wouldn't read to much into a "star" defending a "star". I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

Just saying... his response wasn't nuanced and doesn't acknowledge what is happening with the Wizards.

You think that what the Wizards are doing is some type of rare phenomenon.? They still have more talent and 2 other max players out there on the court with Wall out. How many of these other half assed teams can say that?

Look at the Pels situation they had won 10 straight with out Boogie and just recently lost when Davis went out. Does anyone actually think the Pels are better without Boogie?

I don't know I guess i'm sensing some negative trend here.

Yes, I think NO is better off without Cousins... so I guess I am negative

But it isn't about a player being Max... it is about how good a player is playing at that time, no? And how well the team is playing together as well? Do we have a better winning percentage before or after the Wall injury? Are we playing better team basketball since then?

That is the nuance that Mr. Durant is missing. And if you like ex-basketball players as GMs, you gotta love EG

Again I stand corrected. There are plenty of ex ballers that are GM's Magic, Bird, Jordan (now owner) etc. I honestly did not know (yes I did) that Ernie was an ex baller. Think he played with Bernard King in College.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Read the quote and understand it from an actual NBA Superstar and not a wannabe internet armchair coach.

Oh, I read the quote - I just wouldn't read to much into a "star" defending a "star". I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

Just saying... his response wasn't nuanced and doesn't acknowledge what is happening with the Wizards.

You think that what the Wizards are doing is some type of rare phenomenon.? They still have more talent and 2 other max players out there on the court with Wall out. How many of these other half assed teams can say that?

Look at the Pels situation they had won 10 straight with out Boogie and just recently lost when Davis went out. Does anyone actually think the Pels are better without Boogie?

I don't know I guess i'm sensing some negative trend here.

They got better with Mirotic bringing what he has to offer along with Anthony Davis. J'Rue Holiday began playing much better. I think it's reflective of his improving health.

Anthony Davis has just been beasting!

New Orleans didn't just get better with Cousins being injured. That's just not true.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Oh, I read the quote - I just wouldn't read to much into a "star" defending a "star". I wouldn't want most "stars" being GMs.

Just saying... his response wasn't nuanced and doesn't acknowledge what is happening with the Wizards.

You think that what the Wizards are doing is some type of rare phenomenon.? They still have more talent and 2 other max players out there on the court with Wall out. How many of these other half assed teams can say that?

Look at the Pels situation they had won 10 straight with out Boogie and just recently lost when Davis went out. Does anyone actually think the Pels are better without Boogie?

I don't know I guess i'm sensing some negative trend here.

Yes, I think NO is better off without Cousins... so I guess I am negative

But it isn't about a player being Max... it is about how good a player is playing at that time, no? And how well the team is playing together as well? Do we have a better winning percentage before or after the Wall injury? Are we playing better team basketball since then?

That is the nuance that Mr. Durant is missing. And if you like ex-basketball players as GMs, you gotta love EG

I'm like that lady from that movie, "Misery", the number one fan ... A Boogie Cousins. Regardless, I also think New Orleans is better without him.

Two big men with those kind of numbers have never existed in the NBA on the same team. Ralph Sampson and Hakeem Olajuwon is the closest example. They never dominated and that was 25 or 30 years ago. In the modern-day era Tim Duncan and David Robinson we're actually not both dominant at the same time. Robinson devoted himself to rebounding and defense later in his career. Duncan was the total Beast.

New Orleans is good because their guards are tearing it up and they've got an outside game and Davis is now being a beast. Boogie was kind of stopping the ball just like John does at times. Boogie had a propensity for a high high high number of turnovers.

Having said all of that Boogie Cousins still had a 40-20 triple-double game.. he is a great player. If he were a Wizard instead of Gortat or Mahinmi...

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You think that what the Wizards are doing is some type of rare phenomenon.? They still have more talent and 2 other max players out there on the court with Wall out. How many of these other half assed teams can say that?

Look at the Pels situation they had won 10 straight with out Boogie and just recently lost when Davis went out. Does anyone actually think the Pels are better without Boogie?

I don't know I guess i'm sensing some negative trend here.

Yes, I think NO is better off without Cousins... so I guess I am negative

But it isn't about a player being Max... it is about how good a player is playing at that time, no? And how well the team is playing together as well? Do we have a better winning percentage before or after the Wall injury? Are we playing better team basketball since then?

That is the nuance that Mr. Durant is missing. And if you like ex-basketball players as GMs, you gotta love EG

Again I stand corrected. There are plenty of ex ballers that are GM's Magic, Bird, Jordan (now owner) etc. I honestly did not know (yes I did) that Ernie was an ex baller. Think he played with Bernard King in College.

Years ago I was at a wedding (I was actually in the wedding) at a friend's house. Bernard and then other NBA players were there... Back in the 80s.

Won't tell it all.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The great thing about this, game 67, loss to the Heat is that Anthony Davis missed Wizards game 66 for the Pelicans.

His missing that game sure helped Washington out a lot.

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[DCZards]

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Yes, I think NO is better off without Cousins... so I guess I am negative

But it isn't about a player being Max... it is about how good a player is playing at that time, no? And how well the team is playing together as well? Do we have a better winning percentage before or after the Wall injury? Are we playing better team basketball since then?

That is the nuance that Mr. Durant is missing. And if you like ex-basketball players as GMs, you gotta love EG

It's a little hard to judge Wall's play this season because he's been injured since about the first month of the season.

What we do know is that a healthy Wall led the Zards to 49 wins last season, despite a lousy bench and backup PG.

Bottom line: KD is right when he says the Zards are not better without Wall.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Bottom line: KD is right when he says the Zards are not better without Wall.

Not better without him? Sure. And they're definitely better with the money spent on him rather than Mahinmi, Smith and whoever else Ernie chooses to throw big money at in the offseason. There are definitely better ways to spend the bazillion dollars or whatever Wall's contract is in a few years, but there are also worse ways, too. That said, I also don't think the Wizards are too much better with Wall in the regular season than they are without him at this point. Come the playoffs, I feel his value is more pronounced, on average.

As for Cousins... yeah... I'm far more pessimistic about him. He's a phenomenal talent, and he wasn't holding the Pelicans back the way is being described at present, but he tries to do too much and gets frustrated too easily (honestly, I feel that caring too much might be getting in his way, sad though that would be). I do think it's possible that he figures things out, not totally unlike Kyle Lowry seems to have in his last year in Houston and subsequent Toronto tenure, but he also might not, and if he doesn't, he's a headache for whichever team is paying him that isn't nearly worth it.

[dckingsfan]

Yes, I think NO is better off without Cousins... so I guess I am negative

But it isn't about a player being Max... it is about how good a player is playing at that time, no? And how well the team is playing together as well? Do we have a better winning percentage before or after the Wall injury? Are we playing better team basketball since then?

That is the nuance that Mr. Durant is missing. And if you like ex-basketball players as GMs, you gotta love EG

It's a little hard to judge Wall's play this season because he's been injured since about the first month of the season.

What we do know is that a healthy Wall led the Zards to 49 wins last season, despite a lousy bench and backup PG.

Bottom line: KD is right when he says the Zards are not better without Wall.

Well, the context of my original statement is now missing, so I will reiterate. I said that Durant missed the nuance that the Wizards have stepped up their play since he has been injured. It is incumbent on Wall to see what is happening and not change the positive dynamics that have resulted.

Are we better off without an injured Wall? Answer: no
Are we better with a healthy Wall? Answer: no question
Could we be amazing with a healthy Wall that has paid attention to the progress of this team? Answer: no question

Mr. Durant answered all three questions (by not thinking) with the same answer - I question if he is nuanced to either understand (which I hope he does) or explain.

[CobraCommander]

Thank you! This is a complete perspective... We got punked by the Lakers early in the season... With Wall. With Gortat's bragging on Twitter or wherever being part of the problem. He thought Wall was going to deal with Lonzo Ball.

If John plays with indifference and he dominates the ball as much as Bradley Beal; that doesn't make the other players on this team better.

I would rather see a purposeful second unit with Satoransky in than an unfocused group making 120 million between them. (Combined salaries of Otto, John and Brad).

Nah man.,..I’m not buying this. Losing games vs all time legendary beat downs....there is a difference. Sato is being defending against now...people KNOW he is good and they game plan him... We will see if he can handle it...we know wall can.

We need to have Sessions on the court with Sato and Sato will ball his ass off. Our second unit can have three guards being Meeks, Sessions and Satoransky.

Kelly Oubre should be with John Wall and the other starters.

Sato is the point first guard off the bench in my mind. And if we need a 4th guard to play...let it be which ever one of the other guards playing well at the time. Sato should ALWAYs play point when Wall is out...unless we see sessions playing back like the old sessions vs playing like a OLD sessions