Our Next Big Piece

[Moses ShamMoses]

Yes we were lucky that trade didn't happen, what would we do if we didn't have the opportunity to draft the amazing Henry Ellenson

Draft picks are valuable regardless of the fact SVG's picks and player development have been awful.

Drummond, KCP and Bullock developed just fine under SVG, Ellenson and SJ are bit time busts, and that's not on SVG, that's on them. They both had plenty of opportunities to play and develop.

If Donatas Motiejunas didn't have injury issues, he would have been a great player for us, way better than Leuer. Oh yeah, because that trade failed, we not only drafted Henry, we also signed Jon **** Leuer for that big contract.

Monroe/Knight/KCP/SJ were all top 10 picks, and we got 0 value out of them. 0.

Stanley has had plenty of opportunites to develop...im not sure how you can say that for Ellenson. The guy has barely played in 2 years. He probably is bad (at least at this point in his career) but we don't really know for sure.

[Han Solo]

Andrew Wiggins.

[buzzkilloton]

Yes we were lucky that trade didn't happen, what would we do if we didn't have the opportunity to draft the amazing Henry Ellenson

Draft picks are valuable regardless of the fact SVG's picks and player development have been awful.

Drummond, KCP and Bullock developed just fine under SVG, Ellenson and SJ are bit time busts, and that's not on SVG, that's on them. They both had plenty of opportunities to play and develop.

If Donatas Motiejunas didn't have injury issues, he would have been a great player for us, way better than Leuer. Oh yeah, because that trade failed, we not only drafted Henry, we also signed Jon **** Leuer for that big contract.

Monroe/Knight/KCP/SJ were all top 10 picks, and we got 0 value out of them. 0.

Knight we traded for Jennings who if not for injury may have worked out diff. KCP is a pretty good player we just didnt get to keep him.

SJ should of been Booker/Winslow whos improved some this season or pick traded to the celtics who were offering a huge offer which was rumored to include a nets pick. A better GM does more with draft picks then SVG for sure. He doesnt value them highly like the rest of the league. Hence him trying to trade them for injured role players and max players.

Montiejunas was a role player with a back injury that SVG tried trading for. Morey trade to get one over on SVG and almost did.

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Knight we traded for Jennings who if not for injury may have worked out diff. KCP is a pretty good player we just didnt get to keep him.

We gave up Middleton in that trade

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Stanley has had plenty of opportunites to develop...im not sure how you can say that for Ellenson. The guy has barely played in 2 years. He probably is bad (at least at this point in his career) but we don't really know for sure.

Ellenson had way more opportunities than he deserves. He is a joke, and if you pay attention to his attitude during time outs, you'll see he couldn't care less.

He is always paying attention to something else, instead to the coaches, he is always joking around when he should be concentrating and when he is on the floor he is a complete disaster, he isn't even a G-League talent level and he got some NBA minutes, hell he even played in a few serious and competitive games, not only garbage time.

He is 100% clueless and didn't develop. That's on him, not on SVG. SVG's fault was to draft him instead of LeVert, Siakam, Labissiere or Murray, hell he could've even drafted Malcolm Brogdon...

[buzzkilloton]

Yeah that hurt. Knight was the center piece though. Middleton turned out being the key pickup in hindsight. Man everything would be diff if we didnt throw him in that trade.

The bucks then the next season traded Knight to get MCW coming off a rookie of the year which he never followed up with success, suns got Knight, and the great Hinkiee picked up the lakers lotto pick.

[Moses ShamMoses]

Stanley has had plenty of opportunites to develop...im not sure how you can say that for Ellenson. The guy has barely played in 2 years. He probably is bad (at least at this point in his career) but we don't really know for sure.

Ellenson had way more opportunities than he deserves. He is a joke, and if you pay attention to his attitude during time outs, you'll see he couldn't care less.

He is always paying attention to something else, instead to the coaches, he is always joking around when he should be concentrating and when he is on the floor he is a complete disaster, he isn't even a G-League talent level and he got some NBA minutes, hell he even played in a few serious and competitive games, not only garbage time.

He is 100% clueless and didn't develop. That's on him, not on SVG. SVG's fault was to draft him instead of LeVert, Siakam, Labissiere or Murray, hell he could've even drafted Malcolm Brogdon...

I agree he hasn't really earned more of a chance but he certainly hasn't been gifted one either like Stanley.

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[In SVG We Trust]

Leuer+Galloway for Bazemore or Fournier

C-Drummond Moreland
PF-Blake Ellenson
SF-SJ Bullock
SG-Bazemore or Fournier Luke
PG-RJ Ish

Top4 team in the East
Let's go!

Because other teams want to commit suicide to help us

[Canadafan]

Leuer+Galloway for Bazemore or Fournier

C-Drummond Moreland
PF-Blake Ellenson
SF-SJ Bullock
SG-Bazemore or Fournier Luke
PG-RJ Ish

Top4 team in the East
Let's go!

Because other teams want to commit suicide to help us

Lmfaooooo true!

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I think the only real possibility we have to add a relevant piece is if Arn Tellem convinces Tyreke to sign with us for the full MLE, and convinces Gores to go over the LT to sign Tyreke and later use assets to dump someone (probably Reggie) to get under the LT.

[mrfalse9]

Brandon Jennings balling in his Bucks debut with a near triple double. The biggest difference was his court vision, playing more matured and getting his teammates involved.

He would have thrived here over our back-up PGs. I wonder why SVG didn't try to take a look with his former PG.

[tradez401]

Brandon Jennings balling in his Bucks debut with a near triple double. The biggest difference was his court vision, playing more matured and getting his teammates involved.

He would have thrived here over our back-up PGs. I wonder why SVG didn't try to take a look with his former PG.

right i was watchin his highlight and he looks completely healthy n if i remember jennings was playin his best basketball that year he got injured. I would way rather have him then old man jameer nelson never was a fan of his.

[buzzkilloton]

Brandon Jennings balling in his Bucks debut with a near triple double. The biggest difference was his court vision, playing more matured and getting his teammates involved.

He would have thrived here over our back-up PGs. I wonder why SVG didn't try to take a look with his former PG.

right i was watchin his highlight and he looks completely healthy n if i remember jennings was playin his best basketball that year he got injured. I would way rather have him then old man jameer nelson never was a fan of his.

Why go after pgs with actual talent that're under 30 like Jennings/Burke when SVG old buddy 36 year old Jameer is available.

[Crymson]

Drummond, KCP and Bullock developed just fine under SVG, Ellenson and SJ are big time busts, and that's not on SVG, that's on them. They both had plenty of opportunities to play and develop.

Van Gundy did nothing for Drummond. He blew Drummond's efficiency and confidence for three years with his disastrous post-up experiment, and he did nothing to hold Dre accountable for poor play or lackluster effort. Drummond improved last season by his own hard work and motivation. Van Gundy had no hand in it.

KCP developed into a massive disappointment under Van Gundy. He failed to progress year-over-year. In the latter half of his final season here, he was one of the worst players in the league. That didn't stop Van Gundy from offering him an $80 million contract anyway. If KCP weren't so egotistical and greedy, we'd have that terrible contract on the books now too.

Bullock was already a good shooter when he arrived in Detroit, and he'd been in the league three seasons already. Van Gundy furthermore gave him basically zero chances last season until the final month, when the playoffs were effectively already out of reach.

Ellenson was a bad pick. That said, Van Gundy has kept him on the bench all season rather than sending him to play big minutes in Grand Rapids.

Johnson's future is unclear. His potential remains high.

[mrfalse9]

OT: Avery Bradley Out 6-8 Weeks With Adductor, Abdominal Surgery

This guy always seem to have unique injuries.

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OT: Avery Bradley Out 6-8 Weeks With Adductor, Abdominal Surgery

This guy always seem to have unique injuries.

Go read the Bradley maybe we shouldnt resign him thread. I must of mentioned it in every post i made how hes injury prone. When a guy is 28 and has had weird injuries pop up multiple times in their career u know its going to continue to happen. You got your Lebrons James/P.Manning style athletes then you've got your Bradley/Blake style athletes. The exception to the rule is young guys like 21 or under who have injuries early in their career they may(rarely) be able to regain health one day.

[mrfalse9]

Should we gamble for a guy with a high upside? Who wants to take D'Angelo Russell for RJax + Galloway. He's still young and a much better three-point shooter than Jackson. The question is how much is his price tag.

[Crymson]

Should we gamble for a guy with a high upside? Who wants to take D'Angelo Russell for RJax + Galloway. He's still young and a much better three-point shooter than Jackson. The question is how much is his price tag.

Even if the Pistons wanted to--questionable, because Russell has thus far been disappointing and doesn't fit any need--the Nets wouldn't. Given the emergence of Dinwiddie and the impending return of Lin, I could see the Nets moving a point guard. But they won't want a point guard in return, and nobody will be interested in Galloway. For that matter, nobody is likely to be interested in Jackson right now. Injuries have been a major presence in two straight seasons, and his tendinitis will remain a long-term knock against him. He's high-risk and relatively expensive for the next two seasons.

For the record, Russell is not a better three-point shooter than Jackson. He's shot 34.7% on his career. He can't really hit them unless he's left completely, wide open.