Political Roundtable Part XIX

[Wizardspride]

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[cammac]

Shepard Smith says Fox News opinion side can say whatever they want whether it is factual or not.I know SD20 will be destroyed when he learns his hero's are lying POS.

His comments were a not-so-veiled dig at Fox personalities like Sean Hannity, who criticized Smith, the host of “Shepard Smith Reporting,” as “so anti-Trump” last year. Smith fired back then that “sometimes facts are displeasing; journalists report them without fear or favor.”

He added: “Some of our opinion programming is there strictly to be entertaining. I get that. I don’t work there. I wouldn’t work there. I don’t want to sit around and yell at each other and talk about your philosophy and my philosophy.”

Smith told Time that he plans to continue to stick to the facts, and said that can often anger conservative Fox viewers. He aims to present news and information “so that you can make decisions about your life and your family” — not to confirm viewers’ worldviews, he stated.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/shepard-smith-fox-opinion-programming_us_5aaaf518e4b05b2217fd5c44

[stilldropin20]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/15/secret-empire-joe-biden-john-kerry-billion-dollar-deal-chinese-government/

where the investigation into chinese collusion? Where is CNN on this one?

[cammac]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/15/secret-empire-joe-biden-john-kerry-billion-dollar-deal-chinese-government/

where the investigation into chinese collusion? Where is CNN on this one?

You are like a dog chasing its tail.
Spinning around & around and never achieving anything!

[stilldropin20]

Millions of future progressives. Brings a tear to the eye. Angina to nate et al.

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This is always a stupid and deceptive graphic, geographic territory is not a representation of number of voters or votes cast.

everyone on the planet understands this map.

which means everyone understands that NY, Chicago, miami, LA, SF, Phily, and a few other cities are extremely dense. and just about as many poeple live in these and other metropolis cites as do people that live in small towns. but on square footage and area, this is what the electoral college looks like. I'm sorry. but this is it.

And this is why i advocate for city states. We should simply redraw the maps. and reassign electoral votes based on city states. and in some major cites like chicago, the north and south side south side, and down town areas should be 3 different states as those 3 areas repsresent 3 very different electorates. but until that day which is never coming and no matter how dense NY city, Chicago, Phily, SF, Miami and LA. Regardless of how dense. why do people that live in these cities and a few other semi dense ares keep thinking that they should control federal laws and regulations over 85% of the land square footage!!!!!?????? Why???? it makes no sense.

At this point, if democrats and liberals want to live that much differently than those that live in 85% of the united states then they are simply better off advocating for "their" cities to become city states and simultaneously argue for more states rights...which odly enough was largely a republican platform.

Let city folk live how they want to live. and let small town folk live how they want to live. Is this too much common sense?

[stilldropin20]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/15/secret-empire-joe-biden-john-kerry-billion-dollar-deal-chinese-government/

where the investigation into chinese collusion? Where is CNN on this one?

You are like a dog chasing its tail.
Spinning around & around and never achieving anything!

you a complete idiot. you come on here every day and scream at the sky. Nothing you have claimed has come true. Everything Nate and I claim has or is coming true.

mccabe is about to be fired. Per recommendation from the independent (obama holdover) IG. Likely indicted on many crimes...he aided and abetted HRC and the Clintons for many years going back to Uranium One deal where HRC sold Putin 20% of our uranium reserves and Bill Clinton was oversees in russia collecting speech fees at $500K a pop and the Clinton foundation hauled in millions from actors in that deal amnd direct ties to Russia. Obama and his admin signed off on the entire thing.

Mccabe, Comey, rosensterin all colluded to illegally surveil Trump campaign.

its all slowly coming to light. A 2nd independent investigator will likely be named in the coming weeks. These clowns are going down. FACTS!!

[cammac]

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This is always a stupid and deceptive graphic, geographic territory is not a representation of number of voters or votes cast.

everyone on the planet understands this map.

which means everyone understands that NY, Chicago, miami, LA, SF, Phily, and a few other cities are extremely dense. and just about as many poeple live in these and other metropolis cites as do people that live in small towns. but on square footage and area, this is what the electoral college looks like. I'm sorry. but this is it.

And this is why i advocate for city states. We should simply redraw the maps. and reassign electoral votes based on city states. and in some major cites like chicago, the north and south side south side, and down town areas should be 3 different states as those 3 areas repsresent 3 very different electorates. but until that day which is never coming and no matter how dense NY city, Chicago, Phily, SF, Miami and LA. Regardless of how dense. why do people that live in these cities and a few other semi dense ares keep thinking that they should control federal laws and regulations over 85% of the land square footage!!!!!?????? Why???? it makes no sense.

At this point, if democrats and liberals want to live that much differently than those that live in 85% of the united states then they are simply better off advocating for "their" cities to become city states and simultaneously argue for more states rights...which odly enough was largely a republican platform.

Let city folk live how they want to live. and let small town folk live how they want to live. Is this too much common sense?

Political Maps change and even those in rural areas vote in what they believe is there best interest. Just wait until the Midwest soy bean farmers don't have a market for for there crop. Harley Davidson which is losing sales gets hurt in Wisconsin. Orange growers in Florida lose international sales. Pork producer loss access to the Chinese & Japanese market. American beef is no longer welcome in Asia.

You know absolutely nothing about a rural society.

But then again you only know what the Alt Right whispers too you!

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[Pointgod]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/15/secret-empire-joe-biden-john-kerry-billion-dollar-deal-chinese-government/

where the investigation into chinese collusion? Where is CNN on this one?

You are like a dog chasing its tail.
Spinning around & around and never achieving anything!

you a complete idiot. you come on here every day and scream at the sky. Nothing you have claimed has come true. Everything Nate and I claim has or is coming true.

mccabe is about to be fired. Per recommendation from the independent (obama holdover) IG. Likely indicted on many crimes...he aided and abetted HRC and the Clintons for many years going back to Uranium One deal where HRC sold Putin 20% of our uranium reserves and Bill Clinton was oversees in russia collecting speech fees at $500K a pop and the Clinton foundation hauled in millions from actors in that deal amnd direct ties to Russia. Obama and his admin signed off on the entire thing.

Mccabe, Comey, rosensterin all colluded to illegally surveil Trump campaign.

its all slowly coming to light. A 2nd independent investigator will likely be named in the coming weeks. These clowns are going down. FACTS!!

You are truly clueless. You have no idea behind the recommendation to fire McCabe. The amount of disinformation rattling around in your brain explains why you don't have a coherent thought.

[cammac]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/15/secret-empire-joe-biden-john-kerry-billion-dollar-deal-chinese-government/

where the investigation into chinese collusion? Where is CNN on this one?

You are like a dog chasing its tail.
Spinning around & around and never achieving anything!

you a complete idiot. you come on here every day and scream at the sky. Nothing you have claimed has come true. Everything Nate and I claim has or is coming true.

mccabe is about to be fired. Per recommendation from the independent (obama holdover) IG. Likely indicted on many crimes...he aided and abetted HRC and the Clintons for many years going back to Uranium One deal where HRC sold Putin 20% of our uranium reserves and Bill Clinton was oversees in russia collecting speech fees at $500K a pop and the Clinton foundation hauled in millions from actors in that deal amnd direct ties to Russia. Obama and his admin signed off on the entire thing.

Mccabe, Comey, rosensterin all colluded to illegally surveil Trump campaign.

its all slowly coming to light. A 2nd independent investigator will likely be named in the coming weeks. These clowns are going down. FACTS!!

McCabe hasn't been fired and I think Sessions is dragging his feet on this till after Sunday as a big finger to Trump.
FBI has discredited the witnesses in Uranium 1 just Alt Right whimpers left.
Only people that believe that are Nune's and You about surveillance of Trump !
Picked winners in last 2 Special elections about a month ahead of time.
What Independent Prosecutor been hearing that for months.
SO SAD

[DCZards]

BLM is not an issue that divides America. It is an opportunity to unite America around an ideal that we all *say* we believe in, that we are all created equal. When deplorables put their hands to their ears and yell "LA LA LA ALL LIVES MATTER ESPECIALLY THE WHITE ONES" it's not the Dems that are doing the dividing. That's white people being racist.

Gay marriage is not an issue that divides America. It makes us a more Christian nation by making love an undeniable right.

Wanting to control health care costs by using intelligent economic analysis to apply pigovian taxes to force people to externalize the costs of choosing not to buy insurance is not a divisive issue, it's a common sense issue and it shouldn't matter that a black person suggested it to you. That's not Dems being divisive, that's everyone who hates Obamacare but loves the ACA being flatout racist.

Wanting to reform the criminal justice system to reduce or eliminate prison sentences for victimless crimes and increase the use of civil penalties so that we don't destroy our country's human capital AND SAVE MONEY is not a divisive issue, it is a common sense issue that is, again, opposed primarily by racists.

Wanting to reduce the flood of blood in our streets and our classrooms caused by a broken 2nd amendment that prioritizes the right to own guns over the right of our children to live is not an issue that divides America. This is not a "divisive" issue, this is an "OMG WTF IS THE MATTER WITH YOUR BRAIN" issue. It's inconceivable that people have such a hard time choosing the right side of this. There is a CLEARLY WRONG SIDE and for some reason 14 million extremely loud and idiotic Americans have chosen the wrong side. I'm sure there are a large number of pedophiles in this country who care very strongly about their right to rape children, and yet that doesn't make it right. It DOESN'T MATTER how many grownup children with small penises in this country value the right to own guns to protect themselves against scary black people over the right for children to live. Being so negligently permissive with gun ownership that any idiot can buy an AR-15 and murder 17 kids is WRONG. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WRONG WRONG WRONG. WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Being against hate and intolerance and racism is not divisive. It is the opposite.

THIS.

[stilldropin20]

why do people continue to protect this past Obama administration? Him and his admin are going to go down in history as the worst ever. Worse than W. I dont think he had a clue about what he was doing. O rhe did have a clue and was an evil man so married to his "belief system that he would do bad things for the country to advance his personal political belief system.

This is complete garbage "governing." It leaves citizens unprotected. I mean the main service of the government first and foremest is to protect its citizens from enemies foreign and domestic. Thats really the alpha and omega of governing. And it seems completely lost on liberals. completely effing lost, man!


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chicago tribune corraborates!!!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-gun-background-check-database-20171122-story.html

[stilldropin20]

BLM is not an issue that divides America. It is an opportunity to unite America around an ideal that we all *say* we believe in, that we are all created equal. When deplorables put their hands to their ears and yell "LA LA LA ALL LIVES MATTER ESPECIALLY THE WHITE ONES" it's not the Dems that are doing the dividing. That's white people being racist.

Gay marriage is not an issue that divides America. It makes us a more Christian nation by making love an undeniable right.

Wanting to control health care costs by using intelligent economic analysis to apply pigovian taxes to force people to externalize the costs of choosing not to buy insurance is not a divisive issue, it's a common sense issue and it shouldn't matter that a black person suggested it to you. That's not Dems being divisive, that's everyone who hates Obamacare but loves the ACA being flatout racist.

Wanting to reform the criminal justice system to reduce or eliminate prison sentences for victimless crimes and increase the use of civil penalties so that we don't destroy our country's human capital AND SAVE MONEY is not a divisive issue, it is a common sense issue that is, again, opposed primarily by racists.

Wanting to reduce the flood of blood in our streets and our classrooms caused by a broken 2nd amendment that prioritizes the right to own guns over the right of our children to live is not an issue that divides America. This is not a "divisive" issue, this is an "OMG WTF IS THE MATTER WITH YOUR BRAIN" issue. It's inconceivable that people have such a hard time choosing the right side of this. There is a CLEARLY WRONG SIDE and for some reason 14 million extremely loud and idiotic Americans have chosen the wrong side. I'm sure there are a large number of pedophiles in this country who care very strongly about their right to rape children, and yet that doesn't make it right. It DOESN'T MATTER how many grownup children with small penises in this country value the right to own guns to protect themselves against scary black people over the right for children to live. Being so negligently permissive with gun ownership that any idiot can buy an AR-15 and murder 17 kids is WRONG. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WRONG WRONG WRONG. WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Being against hate and intolerance and racism is not divisive. It is the opposite.

THIS.

The BLM movement and ACLU along with the outgoing Obama DOJ allowed what should have been an amazing and uniting cause to become a complete a perversion of sorts. this should have been about moving 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th 12th generation african american families permanently off of entitlement lifestyles where the human spirit has been allowed to die due to lack of motivation to better oneself due to lack of opportunity(among others) as poor folks from broken homes are not taught that good old fashioned hard work pays off. THE BLM movement should have been about removing the obstacles and hurdles in the poor black communities. It should have focused on employing young black men and paying them a fair wage. It should have been about fixing broken african american families that were destroyed by the systematic evils of slavery and jim crow. it should have been about teaching and helping poor and broken african american families how to stray together and how to raise children so that they can learn more in school. It should have been about NOT encouraging children (young teenagers) to have children so that both those 13-18 year old (children themkselves) have better opportunities in life but also those newborn babies, born into entitlement class and likely absentee fathers. I had a patient last week. lovely girl. really nice...but 14 years old and pregnant with her 2nd child. A mouth full of cavities. no money. and public aid will only pay for fillings and extractions and dentures. wont pay for the build up and crowns she needs. so she is getting dentures. at 14!!! She has no idea how to even keep her own teeth clean and free of disease and she will have a 2nd child in a couple of months!!! Come on, man!! This cant be a good thing!!!??? THE BLM movement should have been about fixing all of that.

instead it was allowed to be about demonizing police officers because of 2-3 bad situation where cops over react????? As opposed to the cop in parkland that did nothing!!!??? The leaders of the BLM movement just HAD to have a "bad guy," huh??? And of all candidates, they chose police officers??? Because of 2-3 bad arrests(shootings) per year out of nearly 1 million arrests combined by the collective entire police forces throughout the nation. And thats where it became divisive. They went after the cops and never identified the real problems in the black communities. Which happen to be almost exactly same problems in long term very poor white communities. Broken homes, broken families, entitlement class lifestyle leading to lack of education, lack of motivation, and increased use of drugs and other criminal activity. Increased violence. increased predators of children. ALL OF WHICH LEAD TO A TERRIBLE PLACE TO RAISE CHILDREN. Which leads to children that are nowhere near as equipped to compete to succeed with even "average" americans. So only truely amazing physical alphas with some kind of talent or genius have any chance to get out from under it. Or extreme luck. Or hitting the genetic lottery. And even then, with any or even all of that...so often the kids just dont know how to deal with the better opportunities and sabotage their own success feeling they "dont deserve" it.

So many things need fixing.

heres an idea for BLM. Police officers are NOT the problem in the african-american community. At all. Not even close. At this point, in my city, Chicago. 70% of the police officers in black neighborhoods are and have been black cops for a couple decades. usually guys that grew up in the neighborhood. These police forces have been under democratic rule for over 60 years!!! Democratic police chiefs!!!!! And somehow, the good kids(african americans)...that stayed in school, followed the rules, went to college and applied to the police academy to help fix the crappy neighborhoods they grew up in...somehow those guys became the bad guys, huh!!!???? only in liberal america. My God. liberals are evil to continue to promote this ideologue!!!!! This is a diseased way of thinking and allowed to perpetuate into poor neighborhoods where minds are easily manipulated. Sad.

I grew up in these hoods. And in fact more law and order is needed there. Not less. and with love. and encouragement. the best lesson i ever learned in life was that no one was coming to save me. That if I ever was to do anything with my life that i would have to fight for it. Work for it. Do the damn work!!! And keep knocking on doors day after day that doors get slammed in my face. and that there was many "devils" along the way that would distract me from chasing my dreams (whatever they were back then). it didn't fully settle in until my mid 20's. And I almost ended up dead or in jail multiple times before that. But once it settled in, i got to work.

At this point, I fully believe that dems and liberals prefer the divisiveness. its their brand. thats what they use to motivate their base to get out the vote. And that's what keeps them in office. they have successfully manipulated the poor into this go nowhere backwards azz social policy of victimhood combined with an entitlement class low standards of living. Dems dont get the drugs off of the streets. Dems dont get the illegal guns off of the streets. Dems dont want to put hardened criminals in jail neither. So the streets are less safe. Dems dont encourage strong family values. Dems dont stop (in fact encourage) children to have children. and pay them to do just that with entitlements. and they keep wages low and stagnant in the poor class by keeping the boarders open for illegal immigrants to come take jobs away from those (poor folk) that have trouble graduating high school due to all the problems i describe above. Dems have ruined our cities!! and ruined the minds of americans that have been living in these cities under democratic rule for the last 60 years. Same shxt different city!! Same shxtty liberal/democrat failed policies in charge.

And worse these democratic cities are among the most expensive places to live on the entire planet. Most expensive. Most taxed. Most murders. Most crime. worst schools. Biggest wealth disparity. Most drug use. Most imprisoned. Most crimes. Most rapes. Most homeless. Dirtiest, filthiest, and lowest standards of living in the entire US. In some of these cities like Michigan there is literally poison in the water systems and water they drink!!!

Its a big effing mess! Liberals own it all. failed liberal policy and after failed liberal policy. and its costs tax payers a TON! So many of these cities are flat broke. or in severe debt. bailed out by the federal government often which means tax payers from small town america foots the bill and bails these failed cities out. rinse and repeat. over and over. decade after decade.

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Obviously the solution is to build a wall around these cities to prevent guns from entering them.

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I you remove all the players other than Porter and Beal, on average the Wizards are almost as good as the Warriors.

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In the beginning the pee pee tape allegations appeared absurd, but over time, that part of the Steele dossier is looking credible.
Trump has a well-established pattern of pursuing sex workers, former Playboy playmates, and just about any attractive woman who happens to be around him. The number of women that Trump has paid-off appears to be lengthy.

[Doug_Blew]

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In 2012, 14,827 murders were reported.

Chicago - 500
Detroit - 386
New Orleans - 193
DC - 88
St Louis - ?
TOTAL - 1,167 + (300 for St Louis) = 1,467

These 5 cities represent 10% of the Murders in the US in 2012. It's a quite a leap of faith to say that 10% drop in murders drops us from 3rd worst to 4th best.

[dckingsfan]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-handful-of-cities-are-driving-2016s-rise-in-murders/

"The rise in murders in 2015 was widespread, with 64 percent of big cities seeing increases, many of them substantial. So far, the 2016 increase appears far more concentrated in just a few big cities. Chicago, in particular, has seen a dramatic rise in the number of murders; through early October, the city had seen 536 murders, up from 378 at the same time a year ago, a 42 percent increase. Orlando has also seen a big jump in murders, due largely to the Pulse nightclub attack that killed 49 people in June. Together, Chicago and Orlando account for close to half of the net increase in murders in cities for which data is available. (By contrast, the two cities with the biggest increase in the number of murders in 2015 accounted for a quarter of the net increase in the same group of big cities.) Excluding those two cities, murder would be up 6.3 percent this year in the remaining big cities in my data set. Meanwhile, several cities, including Milwaukee, Washington, D.C., and Baltimore, have seen substantial decreases in the number of murders so far this year after experiencing large rises in 2015."

[Jamaaliver]

Authors reveal the debate in the Obama administration on how to deal with Russian cyberattacks

During the 2016 election, President Obama and his administration held meeting in the situation room where they discussed how to deal with the Russian cyberattacks.

"There were some on the White House staff, particularly who were in charge of cybersecurity and also Russia affairs, who believed that the Russian attack was so serious and so unprecedented that unless the U.S. struck back hard and struck back fast, it would send a signal to the Russians that they could get away with this," Isikoff said.

Isikoff said they discovered in their reporting that Mr. Obama "didn't want to go there" with the aggressive proposals.

"There was a concern that this would escalate a conflict with Russia, there would be a cyberwar in which the U.S. could end up the losers because we had much to lose," Isikoff said.

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[dckingsfan]

The BLM movement and ACLU along with the outgoing Obama DOJ allowed what should have been an amazing and uniting cause to become a complete a perversion of sorts.
Fact check: You tied the BLM to the ACLU to the DOJ. They are not tied together on this issue and each have different objectives - clearly.

This should have been about future generation african american families permanently off of entitlement lifestyles.
Fact check: We were coming out of the great recession. This is when our social services make a big difference.

THE BLM movement should have been about removing the obstacles and hurdles in the poor black communities. It should have focused on employing young black men and paying them a fair wage. it should have been about teaching and helping poor and broken african american families how to stray together and how to raise children so that they can learn more in school. It should have been about NOT encouraging children (young teenagers) to have children so that both those 13-18 year old (children themkselves) have better opportunities in life but also those newborn babies, born into entitlement class and likely absentee fathers.
Fact check: The BLM movement started as a movement against violence and systemic racism towards black people. If anything they should have continued to concentrate on this issue vs. broadening and weakening their effort.

Instead it was allowed to be about demonizing police officers because of 2-3 bad situation where cops over react?????
Fact check: No, blacks have been systematically targeted. There is not data that shows the opposite even when accounting for crime in a specific area.

Police officers are NOT the problem in the african-american community.
Fact check: BLM feels it isn't the officers but the system.

At this point, I fully believe that dems and liberals prefer the divisiveness.
Fact check: During a campaign, all parties show the difference in their policies.

Dems dont encourage strong family values. Dems dont stop (in fact encourage) children to have children.
Fact check: I think that the Obama family is a pretty good role model.

And worse these democratic cities are among the most expensive places to live on the entire planet.
Fact check: True but mostly because of scarcity.

Most expensive. Most taxed.
Fact check: Cities world wide.

Most murders. Most crime. Most rapes. Most homeless.
Fact check: Cities world wide.

worst schools.
Fact check: Not true, some of the best schools are in big cities.

Biggest wealth disparity.
Fact check: This can hardly be put on one party. The tax carveouts have come from both parties.

Most imprisoned.
Fact check: The war on drugs and tough on crime came from both parties

Its a big effing mess! Liberals own it all. Failed liberal policy and after failed liberal policy.
Fact check: Untrue, it is a combination of the two parties inabilty to govern and put effective policies and rules in place.