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Post#181 » by anthony00 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:42 pm

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clyde21 wrote:He was really bad these last two games. Not sure what happened there.

he barely got the ball


Why isn’t he getting the ball though? He’s almost 7 feet tall with a 7’4 wingspan and he’s really mobile. Why wasn’t he getting the ball from rebounds? I’ll tell you why, he was bothered by the length of Syracuse and their physicality going after rebounds. The reality is that his lack of athleticism was outplayed by athletic guys with length, which is what the NBA will be like every game. I know a lot of people want to blame his games of bad rebounding on Jackson shooting threes and he’s behind the three point line, but that’s bull. He doesn’t stand by the three point line most of the game. He’s just not a good rebounder.

i watched the whole game bro
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Post#182 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:08 pm

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anthony00 wrote:he barely got the ball


Why isn’t he getting the ball though? He’s almost 7 feet tall with a 7’4 wingspan and he’s really mobile. Why wasn’t he getting the ball from rebounds? I’ll tell you why, he was bothered by the length of Syracuse and their physicality going after rebounds. The reality is that his lack of athleticism was outplayed by athletic guys with length, which is what the NBA will be like every game. I know a lot of people want to blame his games of bad rebounding on Jackson shooting threes and he’s behind the three point line, but that’s bull. He doesn’t stand by the three point line most of the game. He’s just not a good rebounder.

i watched the whole game bro


Huh???
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#183 » by anthony00 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:09 pm

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Why isn’t he getting the ball though? He’s almost 7 feet tall with a 7’4 wingspan and he’s really mobile. Why wasn’t he getting the ball from rebounds? I’ll tell you why, he was bothered by the length of Syracuse and their physicality going after rebounds. The reality is that his lack of athleticism was outplayed by athletic guys with length, which is what the NBA will be like every game. I know a lot of people want to blame his games of bad rebounding on Jackson shooting threes and he’s behind the three point line, but that’s bull. He doesn’t stand by the three point line most of the game. He’s just not a good rebounder.

i watched the whole game bro


Huh???

whats the confusion about
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#184 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:12 pm

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anthony00 wrote:i watched the whole game bro


Huh???

whats the confusion about


The poster brought up a slew of accurate points (I watched the whole game too) and your response said nothing.
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#185 » by anthony00 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:13 pm

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
Huh???

whats the confusion about


The poster brought up a slew of accurate points (I watched the whole game too) and your response said nothing.

oh lol, i just think people are overblowing his "bad" rebounding
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#186 » by GimmeDat » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:26 pm

anthony00 wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
anthony00 wrote:whats the confusion about


The poster brought up a slew of accurate points (I watched the whole game too) and your response said nothing.

oh lol, i just think people are overblowing his "bad" rebounding


Do you want to elaborate on why you think it's overblown? Not agreeing or disagreeing, just saying, hard to have a discussion with someone if they don't justify their opinion.
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#187 » by anthony00 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:30 pm

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anthony00 wrote:
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The poster brought up a slew of accurate points (I watched the whole game too) and your response said nothing.

oh lol, i just think people are overblowing his "bad" rebounding


Do you want to elaborate on why you think it's overblown? Not agreeing or disagreeing, just saying, hard to have a discussion with someone if they don't justify their opinion.

I think he is just hesitant. He always is in foul trouble , I seen some pretty good boxouts at the end
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Post#188 » by doordoor123 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:49 pm

anthony00 wrote:
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anthony00 wrote:oh lol, i just think people are overblowing his "bad" rebounding


Do you want to elaborate on why you think it's overblown? Not agreeing or disagreeing, just saying, hard to have a discussion with someone if they don't justify their opinion.

I think he is just hesitant. He always is in foul trouble , I seen some pretty good boxouts at the end


Who was he boxing out? An unathletic 6’8 guy? Because who he was boxing out makes a difference.
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#189 » by anthony00 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:50 pm

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anthony00 wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:
Do you want to elaborate on why you think it's overblown? Not agreeing or disagreeing, just saying, hard to have a discussion with someone if they don't justify their opinion.

I think he is just hesitant. He always is in foul trouble , I seen some pretty good boxouts at the end


Who was he boxing out? An unathletic 6’8 guy? Because who he was boxing out makes a difference.

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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#190 » by Cosmic_Backlash » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:38 am

I have to admit I've been high on JJJ all year, but he looked not interested in this game. Others were giving 110% and he was stuck at 70%. Not sure if it's a mental thing, but he needed to give a better effort out there for them to have a chance.
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Post#191 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:45 am

I think his lack of rebounding is a legit hole in his game. He's just not a good rebounder, he doesn't seem to have the best instincts for rebounding and isn't really in the best position. Watch JJJ trying to rebound then go watch Bagley/Carter/Williams/Ayton (when he's trying) go rebound. Those guys have far superior instincts when it comes to rebounding and are far far more aggressive going after the ball. Just take Williams for example, the dude is so aggressive going for rebounds and put on a rebounding clinic today with 13 boards in just 20 minutes. There is a clear difference between those group of guys and JJJ.

I think rebounding and constantly creating his own shot and space are JJJ's biggest holes in his game. That's why I have always looked at him as an Ibaka type player on the next level.
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Post#192 » by Cosmic_Backlash » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:52 am

Duke4life831 wrote:I think his lack of rebounding is a legit hole in his game. He's just not a good rebounder, he doesn't seem to have the best instincts for rebounding and isn't really in the best position. Watch JJJ trying to rebound then go watch Bagley/Carter/Williams/Ayton (when he's trying) go rebound. Those guys have far superior instincts when it comes to rebounding and are far far more aggressive going after the ball. Just take Williams for example, the dude is so aggressive going for rebounds and put on a rebounding clinic today with 13 boards in just 20 minutes. There is a clear difference between those group of guys and JJJ.

I think rebounding and constantly creating his own shot and space are JJJ's biggest holes in his game. That's why I have always looked at him as an Ibaka type player on the next level.


It's a legit concern, but part of it is also Michigan State was the most dominant rebounding team in the country. They have a +10 margin a game here, clearly they have a collection of players very good at rebounding. Not sure how much we can say JJJ doesn't have a knack for the ball vs his team being really good rebounding. I think he's better than his numbers suggest, but I agree he doesn't collect everything in his vicinity like a Bagley/Williams does.
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#193 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:03 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:I think his lack of rebounding is a legit hole in his game. He's just not a good rebounder, he doesn't seem to have the best instincts for rebounding and isn't really in the best position. Watch JJJ trying to rebound then go watch Bagley/Carter/Williams/Ayton (when he's trying) go rebound. Those guys have far superior instincts when it comes to rebounding and are far far more aggressive going after the ball. Just take Williams for example, the dude is so aggressive going for rebounds and put on a rebounding clinic today with 13 boards in just 20 minutes. There is a clear difference between those group of guys and JJJ.

I think rebounding and constantly creating his own shot and space are JJJ's biggest holes in his game. That's why I have always looked at him as an Ibaka type player on the next level.


It's a legit concern, but part of it is also Michigan State was the most dominant rebounding team in the country. They have a +10 margin a game here, clearly they have a collection of players very good at rebounding. Not sure how much we can say JJJ doesn't have a knack for the ball vs his team being really good rebounding. I think he's better than his numbers suggest, but I agree he doesn't collect everything in his vicinity like a Bagley/Williams does.


I don't think he's going to be a bad rebounder. Ibaka was a 7-8 rebound per game guy in his prime and I think that is what JJJ is probably going to be. It's not even a numbers thing, it's something that to me is very clear when just watching these guys. There is just a big difference when watching JJJ rebound compared to those other guys. And I think that the difference in the pros is going to be 7-8 boards compared to 10-12 boards a game.
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#194 » by doordoor123 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:40 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:I think his lack of rebounding is a legit hole in his game. He's just not a good rebounder, he doesn't seem to have the best instincts for rebounding and isn't really in the best position. Watch JJJ trying to rebound then go watch Bagley/Carter/Williams/Ayton (when he's trying) go rebound. Those guys have far superior instincts when it comes to rebounding and are far far more aggressive going after the ball. Just take Williams for example, the dude is so aggressive going for rebounds and put on a rebounding clinic today with 13 boards in just 20 minutes. There is a clear difference between those group of guys and JJJ.

I think rebounding and constantly creating his own shot and space are JJJ's biggest holes in his game. That's why I have always looked at him as an Ibaka type player on the next level.


It's a legit concern, but part of it is also Michigan State was the most dominant rebounding team in the country. They have a +10 margin a game here, clearly they have a collection of players very good at rebounding. Not sure how much we can say JJJ doesn't have a knack for the ball vs his team being really good rebounding. I think he's better than his numbers suggest, but I agree he doesn't collect everything in his vicinity like a Bagley/Williams does.


I don't think he's going to be a bad rebounder. Ibaka was a 7-8 rebound per game guy in his prime and I think that is what JJJ is probably going to be. It's not even a numbers thing, it's something that to me is very clear when just watching these guys. There is just a big difference when watching JJJ rebound compared to those other guys. And I think that the difference in the pros is going to be 7-8 boards compared to 10-12 boards a game.


I think more like 5-6. He’s Ibaka if Ibaka was less athletic.
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Re: Jaren Jackson Jr. 

Post#195 » by King Ken » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:44 am

I am not a JJJ fan in this draft but he's pretty athletic. I think he has similar athletic ability to Ibaka especially in a more open game. My issue with JJJ is his supporters who keep putting him in the same league with Bamba or Bagley as a prospect. He's not those guys potentially for the NBA. No matter what team drafts him.
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Post#196 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:59 am

I"ll be honest, it's not.only this game but the past few games as well.. it's a disappearing act. I don't see him being a top7 pick. Carter and the Bridges should probably leapfrog him on the rankings
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Post#197 » by MemphisX » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:28 am

Izzo coached this team poorly.
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Post#198 » by Upperclass » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:28 am

Bamba is a TERRIBLE prospect
JJJ is the 3rd best in the draft behind Bagley and Trae imo
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Post#199 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:03 am

Upperclass wrote:Bamba is a TERRIBLE prospect
JJJ is the 3rd best in the draft behind Bagley and Trae imo


Ummm are looking at the same NCAA tourney? JJJ with hia performance as a big would not even anigf Ayton's jock straps. if you include the wings.. he ia gonna drop further.

In fact with the NCAA not yet over, in terms of bigs ONLY, expect Carter to leapfrog JJJ in his spot right now. Carter still has a chance to shine some more after all.
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Post#200 » by doordoor123 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:11 am

RookieStar wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Bamba is a TERRIBLE prospect
JJJ is the 3rd best in the draft behind Bagley and Trae imo


Ummm are looking at the same NCAA tourney? JJJ with hia performance as a big would not even anigf Ayton's jock straps. if you include the wings.. he ia gonna drop further.

In fact with the NCAA not yet over, in terms of bigs ONLY, expect Carter to leapfrog JJJ in his spot right now. Carter still has a chance to shine some more after all.


I’m honestly not a fan of any of them at the moment. Ayton probably the most just because hes been consistent offensively. I have Bagley over all three right now and I have Mikal Bridges over them as well. Maybe even Trae Young.

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