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[13th Man]

1) So you condone people Beating and discriminating against and abusing transgendered people because they made a "stupid" choice? its one thing if you don't want to embrace them with open arrms, is it also ok to discriminate and abuse anyone who makes any stupid chioce in life? id think alot of people have done that at one time or another.... but if you are condoning violence against them because you dont agree with their choice you are just a horrible person.

I absolutely agree here. I never mentioned anything about condoning abuse and of course I don't condone it. I've been forced to take online courses on these new identities at work and I have without issues.

2) If "being gay" is the root cause for the increase rate of suicides among gays vs. straights how would you fix the root cause? are you ok with people abusing gays or is that bad because they "cant help being gay"

There is nothing to fix in terms of root cause. Being gay is normal, you can educate people to become more accepting and tolerant.

3) They ARE the victim. no one has the right to abuse,bully, or be violent against anyone else. not in this country at least. maybe you disagree with their choice. doesnt mean that it is open season to abuse them.

I agree. I don't think that they should abused at all. I actually feel sorry for them but at the same time, don't place blame on me because I had zero say in their decision in fact I'm trying to make things better for future kids by abolishing this nonsense agenda. They should be taking their anger out on the quack people that supported their cause to switch identities in the first place.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't condone what was said about your mother, but don't expect civility when you come on here acting like a bigoted ass hole. Your god awful comments about gay and transgender people are reprehensible. You just tried to use some poor kids suicide to try and prove a point that has been refuted already. Don't bitch about something like that being said when you're utterly shameless in your bigotry. You could be offending posters on here and you don't even know it or care. So please...shut the **** about class. You have none.

Also, drop the innocent trolling act, you coward. Call gay people genetically defective is as hateful as it gets and word for word Nazi rhetoric.

You are human garbage. I can't say it any other way.

How is it hateful when it is factual, I just used the wrong terms and at least I admit to my mistakes. What if I said that they were genetically abnormal? It still sounds bad but is it not true? They have been proven to have different chromosomes that is abnormal from the majority. You need to know the difference between hate and trying to state facts, albeit not politically correct, since I don't need to be PC here. Remember when it was ok to call people mentally ret@rded? Then that was too mean so they changed to mentally handicapped or mentally disabled. I know you like to bring up this one comment that I made over and over because that's all that you have to go on. I have destroyed you on almost every subject (with the help of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shaprio because they are much smarter than I am), but and all you can come back with is with emotional rants and childish name-calling.

Let me give you an example so that you'll be finally clear on where I stand on gays and the transgnder. If my son came to me one day and told me that he is gay, you know what I would do? I would still love him as much as I do now and would support him in any way to make his life easier. I recognize that it is not his fault that he has abnormal genes in fact it would be my fault for giving it to him. *Go cry me a river if that sentence strikes a nerve because it is too mean and insenstive.

Now on the other hand, if my son came to me and said that he's not gay but wants to be identified as girl, I would slap him silly and ask him which cuck teacher indoctrinated him with this stupid ret@rded-ass idea? So now we clear? Gays are normal (despite with abnormal genes). Trans are stupid-ass confused individuals influenced by even more stupid people. I feel bad for the trans because most of them are kids and they are mentally confused and unstable. It's the stupid assed leftist adults that should be tried for murder whenever one of these teenagers commit suicide. This entire trans ordeal is a huge tragedy propagated by the left, celebrating this highly dangerous movement.

Now since you like to talk about race so much, you know who I think the true racist is after all is said and done? You. Yes, I said it. Why do I think this? Because you get overly defensive and think that every single argument or political discussion boils down to race. You remind me of that guest that I had to put in her place after she tried to ruin a nice boxing event with the BLM nonsense. Wasn't the time nor place to bring it up but of course it was for her, it's always the time and place.

I'm the person who is out there interacting with various races daily, while you are probably the sheltered one, full of hate and with little exposure to different races. In fact today I just came back from an all day tournament (not going to name the sport) where I am a prominent leader in the community. I have tremendous relationships with all members of the sport, many of whom are black. I guess it's different up here in Canada, the blacks up here are pretty darn cool, they're my bros. We train together, we joke together, everything is wonderful for the most part.

There is literally nothing factual about anything that you've said about gay and transgender people.

So you would physically abuse your son if he came out to you as transgender? You have done nothing to disprove the assertion that you are complete garbage.

Honestly, what you're posting on here right now about both gay people and transgender people is legitimate hate speech and I hope the moderators ban you from this forum.

And you make a lot of wild assumptions assuming that I am sheltered and only hang around black people all day...if you're working professional, as most of us are on here, the very notion that you're the only person on here who interacts with people different from them every day is utterly silly. you claim to be older than most people on here, yet you have the critical thinking skills of a child. On the other hand, I seriously have doubts you are a prominent leader in your community espousing the horrible views that you do on here, or you do a very good job in hiding it. Community leaders don't really get very far ranting about cucks or being openly bigoted. Community leaders don't find it normal to admit that they would beat their child for being transgender. So you're either a delusional liar, or a coward. Considering you view Donald Trump to be an alpha, none of this would be surprising. And why won't you name the sporting event? scared of something? No one here is going to dox you and out you to your employers, even though you'd deserve to feel the wrath of society for being trash.

"the blacks up are pretty cool". lol. yeah. nothing wrong with this at all.

[13th Man]

So you would physically abuse your son if he came out to you as transgender? You have done nothing to disprove the assertion that you are complete garbage.

Holy crap, I've dispelled the physical abuse thing 5 times already, it was just a figure of speech.

Honestly, what you're posting on here right now about both gay people and transgender people is legitimate hate speech and I hope the moderators ban you from this forum.

You have comprehension issues. Nowhere did I say that I hated gays or trans.

And you make a lot of wild assumptions assuming that I am sheltered and only hang around black people all day. On the other hand, I seriously have doubts you are a prominent leader in your community espousing the horrible views that you do on here, or you do a very good job in hiding it. Community leaders don't really get very far ranting about cucks or being openly bigoted. So you're either a delusional liar, or a coward.

Just giving back a little bit of your own medicine. You accuse me of being all sorts of things but you can't take being called sheltered? Who am I bigoted against? No group in particular. I am bigoted against scumbags or irrational people from all walks of life.

[MrDollarBills]

So you would physically abuse your son if he came out to you as transgender? You have done nothing to disprove the assertion that you are complete garbage.

Holy crap, I've dispelled the physical abuse thing 5 times already, it was just a figure of speech.

Honestly, what you're posting on here right now about both gay people and transgender people is legitimate hate speech and I hope the moderators ban you from this forum.

You have comprehension issues. Nowhere did I say that I hated gays or trans.

And you make a lot of wild assumptions assuming that I am sheltered and only hang around black people all day. On the other hand, I seriously have doubts you are a prominent leader in your community espousing the horrible views that you do on here, or you do a very good job in hiding it. Community leaders don't really get very far ranting about cucks or being openly bigoted. So you're either a delusional liar, or a coward.

Just giving back a little bit of your own medicine. You accuse me of being all sorts of things but you can't take being called sheltered? Who am I bigoted against? No group in particular. I am bigoted against scumbags or irrational people from all walks of life.

Then you should be bigoted against yourself since you're both a scumbag and highly irrational, you would be child abuser.

[13th Man]

Then you should be bigoted against yourself since you're both a scumbag and highly irrational, you would be child abuser.

There you go again, getting all unhinged with the name-calling. Totally acceptable on this forum apparently.

[MrDollarBills]

Oh and lastly, you guys need to quit giving me tips on how to live life. I'm willing to bet that my life is 10x more accomplished and exciting than most of yours. It's funny seeing people throw stones from glass houses.

I have multiple degrees from world renown institutions, am a Director with the federal government, which if you don't know is management level right below the executive level, make a very good income, have multiple investment properties, run my own business and most importantly have plenty of real life friends; not Internet chat forum friends. I am surprised that I even spend as much time on this forum as I do. It used to be fun for me but not so much anymore with all the close-mindedness, hatred, bigotry being displayed by the same people that I used to respect.

This is why mental health is a serious issue folks. There's no way anyone can read this and believe a) any of it and b) that this man is even remotely of sound mind.

Hey ace, newsflash...most successful people don't spend time online making pathetic posts like this to reassure themselves that they're better than another person. Your insecurity is bleeding out from the multiple wounds that we've inflicted on your fragile ego. Aside from the president of the united states, most people who supposedly do what you claim to do don't spend their days **** posting on the internet in a political thread of a basketball form and ranting about how "the left" is ruining your way of living. Or would openly brag about the physical harm they'd inflict on their child if that child doesn't adhere to your horribly warped world view.

You sound so beta right now it's hilarious.

[Prokorov]

I absolutely agree here. I never mentioned anything about condoning abuse and of course I don't condone it. I've been forced to take online courses on these new identities at work and I have without issues.

Well then what is the problem? thats why they are victims, abuse, violence, bullying... and you dont condone it. its also a major facotr in their depression and suicide rates.

There is nothing to fix in terms of root cause. Being gay is normal, you can educate people to become more accepting and tolerant.

so why not do the same for transgender?

I agree. I don't think that they should abused at all. I actually feel sorry for them but at the same time, don't place blame on me because I had zero say in their decision in fact I'm trying to make things better for future kids by abolishing this nonsense agenda. They should be taking their anger out on the quack people that supported their cause to switch identities in the first place.

i dont think it is an agenda. you had transgendered people long before caitlin jenner. its just out of the closet more now that the LGBT movement has had so much support. there is also alot of overlap between gays and transgender.

lets also not make it out like gays are all kosher now in society... we had a huge mass shooting of a gay club recently.

[13th Man]

Oh and lastly, you guys need to quit giving me tips on how to live life. I'm willing to bet that my life is 10x more accomplished and exciting than most of yours. It's funny seeing people throw stones from glass houses.

I have multiple degrees from world renown institutions, am a Director with the federal government, which if you don't know is management level right below the executive level, make a very good income, have multiple investment properties, run my own business and most importantly have plenty of real life friends; not Internet chat forum friends. I am surprised that I even spend as much time on this forum as I do. It used to be fun for me but not so much anymore with all the close-mindedness, hatred, bigotry being displayed by the same people that I used to respect.

This is why mental health is a serious issue folks. There's no way anyone can read this and believe a) any of it and b) that this man is even remotely of sound mind.

Hey ace, newsflash...most successful people don't spend time online making pathetic posts like this to reassure themselves that they're better than another person. Your insecurity is bleeding out from the multiple wounds that we've inflicted on your fragile ego. Aside from the president of the united states, most people who supposedly do what you claim to do don't spend their days **** posting in a political thread of a basketball form and ranting about how "the left" is ruining your way of living. Or would openly brag about the physical harm they'd inflict on their child if that child doesn't adhere to your horribly warped world view.

This is what happens when you get bullied on a forum my multiple posters and have to incessantly defend yourself. Yes, I am playing the victim card here but I have complained about this in the past and nothing gets done about it. The moderator even joins in to make jokes about my mother.

Continue on with your new found angle about me being a child-abuser, I'm not surprised that you would pounce on something like this.

This DIDN'T happen. You know it didn't.

- Rich

[MrDollarBills]

Oh and lastly, you guys need to quit giving me tips on how to live life. I'm willing to bet that my life is 10x more accomplished and exciting than most of yours. It's funny seeing people throw stones from glass houses.

I have multiple degrees from world renown institutions, am a Director with the federal government, which if you don't know is management level right below the executive level, make a very good income, have multiple investment properties, run my own business and most importantly have plenty of real life friends; not Internet chat forum friends. I am surprised that I even spend as much time on this forum as I do. It used to be fun for me but not so much anymore with all the close-mindedness, hatred, bigotry being displayed by the same people that I used to respect.

This is why mental health is a serious issue folks. There's no way anyone can read this and believe a) any of it and b) that this man is even remotely of sound mind.

Hey ace, newsflash...most successful people don't spend time online making pathetic posts like this to reassure themselves that they're better than another person. Your insecurity is bleeding out from the multiple wounds that we've inflicted on your fragile ego. Aside from the president of the united states, most people who supposedly do what you claim to do don't spend their days **** posting in a political thread of a basketball form and ranting about how "the left" is ruining your way of living. Or would openly brag about the physical harm they'd inflict on their child if that child doesn't adhere to your horribly warped world view.

This is what happens when you get bullied on a forum my multiple posters and have to incessantly defend yourself. Yes, I am playing the victim card here but I have complained about this in the past and nothing gets done about it. The moderator even joins in to make jokes about my mother.

Continue on with your new found angle about me being a child-abuser, I'm not surprised that you would pounce on something like this.

I'm sorry if you're feeling bullied...I thought you were an alpha? You now sound like a real snowflake that requires a safe space for healing and self care.

You're the one that admitted that you would physically assault your son if he came out to you as transgender...you own it, just like the rest of the crap you've spewed on here.

Also, the moderator told the person who said that about your mom to cool out. Rich didn't join in on anything. You are a pathological liar along with everything else that is disgusting about you

[AndySF]

Oh and lastly, you guys need to quit giving me tips on how to live life. I'm willing to bet that my life is 10x more accomplished and exciting than most of yours. It's funny seeing people throw stones from glass houses.

I have multiple degrees from world renown institutions, am a Director with the federal government, which if you don't know is management level right below the executive level, make a very good income, have multiple investment properties, run my own business and most importantly have plenty of real life friends; not Internet chat forum friends. I am surprised that I even spend as much time on this forum as I do. It used to be fun for me but not so much anymore with all the close-mindedness, hatred, bigotry being displayed by the same people that I used to respect.

This is why mental health is a serious issue folks. There's no way anyone can read this and believe a) any of it and b) that this man is even remotely of sound mind.

Hey ace, newsflash...most successful people don't spend time online making pathetic posts like this to reassure themselves that they're better than another person. Your insecurity is bleeding out from the multiple wounds that we've inflicted on your fragile ego. Aside from the president of the united states, most people who supposedly do what you claim to do don't spend their days **** posting in a political thread of a basketball form and ranting about how "the left" is ruining your way of living. Or would openly brag about the physical harm they'd inflict on their child if that child doesn't adhere to your horribly warped world view.

This is what happens when you get bullied on a forum my multiple posters and have to incessantly defend yourself. Yes, I am playing the victim card here but I have complained about this in the past and nothing gets done about it. The moderator even joins in to make jokes about my mother.

Continue on with your new found angle about me being a child-abuser, I'm not surprised that you would pounce on something like this.

S**T, an Alpha who play victim card? It's this real life? I guess not. Again, this is what happen when you hide behind the screen saying things that you admitted to had never said to real people because you understand what that will cost you, your job, your friends and your "community leadership". That's what cowards do. Say it to people around you and your co-workers and friends if you truly want to be a man. Stand behind what you actually believe.

[MrDollarBills]

Now on the other hand, if my son came to me and said that he's not gay but wants to be identified as girl, I would slap him silly and ask him which cuck teacher indoctrinated him with this stupid ret@rded-ass idea? So now we clear? Gays are normal (despite with abnormal genes). Trans are stupid-ass confused individuals influenced by even more stupid people. I feel bad for the trans because most of them are kids and they are mentally confused and unstable. It's the stupid assed leftist adults that should be tried for murder whenever one of these teenagers commit suicide. This entire trans ordeal is a huge tragedy propagated by the left, celebrating this highly dangerous movement.

So you post about another transgendered person committing suicide and then go on to say that you would physically abuse your kid if he ever told you he identified as a girl....

maybe if we had less fathers like you transgendered kids wouldnt kill themselves as often. maybe if there was more unconditional love and less "ill slap him silly" these kids would be ok.

Amen. A huge reason as to why LGBTers have a high rate of suicide and depression is because of sick and abusive parental attitudes like his which make them isolated and alienated. There's no support system for them at home or within their families. Not because they're "mentally ill".

[Prokorov]

This is what happens when you get bullied on a forum my multiple posters and have to incessantly defend yourself. Yes, I am playing the victim card here but I have complained about this in the past and nothing gets done about it. The moderator even joins in to make jokes about my mother.

Continue on with your new found angle about me being a child-abuser, I'm not surprised that you would pounce on something like this.

No one is bullying you. We are pointing out the ignorance of your statements. if you can not reconcile that, then that is on you. No one made a joke about your mother. They made an anology about how she would feel in a certain situation and you took offense to that because she isnt alive. its not like there was some "your-mama so fat" joke.

No one called you a child abuser. people QUOTED you after you send you would slap your child silly if he told you he identified as a girl. those YOUR words. not ours. if you meant something else, thats fine, but you cant expect us to read what you wrote, verbatim, and know you where "joking" or "using a figure of speach" especially when you have shown no empathy during these conversations.

You can not come somewhere, spew ignorance, generalize any opposing view points as "leftist" propaganda, brush off anything you said that wa soffensive as "old fashioned way", play the "but i have a black friend i cant be racist" thing and expect people to assume the best when you say you are going to hit your kid if he told you he was trans.

its hard to be sympathetic in this situation

[MrDollarBills]

First article that popped up when I opened my browser this morning:

Another transgender teen kills himself...I mean herself. Whatever.

And people still buy into the narrative that this is not a mental disorder. When will the left step up to send a message to these highly confused individuals that transgenderism is not normal? What a silly question, that would mean them actually taking responsibility for pushing a flawed agenda.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/dear-mommy-i-am-so-sorry-to-do-this-but-i-have-killed-myself-a-transitioning-teens-tale/ar-BBKmiWr?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartandhp

Straight men and women dont commit suicide?

Dentists have the highest rate of suicide of any profession in the US> is being a dentist a mental disorder?

maybe... and i know this is WAAAAY out in left field... transgendered people are killing themselves because they are not accepted, constantly bullied, berated, told they are freaks, etc....

Not at the same rate as trans which is 25 times of the general population. Among trans people ages 18-44, the suicide attempt rate was 45 percent which is astronomical, simply ridiculous.

Here's an easy solution. How about not becoming trans in the first place? Who the hell pushed the narrative that this is a thing of beauty? Oh yeah, the Kaitlin Jenner, the celebrities and leftist media. Don't blame the innocent folks that had nothing to do with this absurd agenda, we had nothing to do with this. Jordan Peterson defended himself really well when being attacked by the trans activists, I can post the video but I won't because I know you guys won't watch it.

The fact that you have to post videos of bigots more articulate than you are because you can't defend anything that you say screams to me that you're an absolute mental midget devoid of any critical thinking ability.

[shakendfries]

let's play a song for 13th who's in his feelings for getting called out on the Neanderthal viewpoints that nobody else shares on his precious sports forum

Watch on YouTube

[MrDollarBills]

Don’t expect a response that acknowledges any the points you raise Prokorov - 13th will simply pivot away from acknowledging the faults in his Neanderthal logic & post a link to a video with some beta bitch moron who’s just as infantile as he is

But honestly, is anyone truly surprised that 13th is triggered by getting labeled as a low-brow morally depraved waste of life when the dirty man he idolizes rants on twitter, fornicates with prostitutes, and fires anyone who disagrees with him? If it looks like a beta, & quacks like a snowflake, it’s probably 13th deflecting and pivoting from something stupid


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Fyi, slavery has historically been widespread in Africa and still continue today in some countries. I'm not saying that it's a good thing and think it should be abolished throughout since the beginning of time. Just stating that it's one of the ugly aspects of civilization.

Posts that pivot away from the topic discussed not only fail to contribute to the dialogue, but also expose the mental fragility of the poster. Only a beta changes the topic when triggered- shame. I bet you’re just as pathetic in real life as you appear on this forum


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Yeah. And we're supposed to believe he's a community leader that can barely debate a single topic coherently or defend his positions on his own merits.

hey 13th man, what do you do in real life when your opinion is challenged by someone face to face? Do you try to change the subject quickly? Or do you say "hold up a sec...i've got to pull up this YouTube video from a guy who condoned the trans atlantic slave trade."

or if it's a woman, you probably intimidate her into silence since a woman challenging your opinion would clearly bring the worst out of you since you're a frail and thin skinned walking example of toxic masculinity.

Beta as all hell. Cuck personified.

[MrDollarBills]

let's play a song for 13th who's in his feelings for getting called out on the Neanderthal viewpoints that nobody else shares on his precious sports forum

Watch on YouTube

a sports forum where he never participates in discussion about the team (which is what everyone on here comes for, this is just a side show) but always flocks back to this thread to post videos from bigots or spread far right wing propaganda.

[13th Man]

Well then what is the problem? thats why they are victims, abuse, violence, bullying... and you dont condone it. its also a major facotr in their depression and suicide rates.

They are a product of a flawed narrative pushed by the left since the early 2000s. They used to be known as transvestites where gays and lesbians physically transform themselves into the opposite sex. This has since spawned into 50 different types of transgenders, many of whom are not biological gay, more so confused individuals who have been encouraged to make matters even worse. I don't see any blame being placed on this narrative being pushed by celebrities, the media, the academic institutions and now the lefties in the government. Did I mention that I was forced to take courses on gender identity and that I didn't have a choice in the matter?

That is my problem. The left continue to make up victim groups, yet take no responsibility or accountability for the repercussions, instead they try to blame everything on the common folk that had nothing to do with this in the first place.

so why not do the same for transgender?

Because of my reasoning above. I feel compassion for gays and lesbians, not as much for the trans who did have a choice but have decided to make the wrong one for the most part.

i dont think it is an agenda. you had transgendered people long before caitlin jenner. its just out of the closet more now that the LGBT movement has had so much support. there is also alot of overlap between gays and transgender.

This was heavily pushed starting 2002, 2003. Ever since all of these new transgender types spawned out of nowhere and we're forced to accept them. I have no issues with accepting them, as stated I as forced to take courses on the subject to broaden my awareness on the situation. That's fine. Just don't blame the suicides on people like me because it wasn't my doing that has caused your turmoil and confusion.

lets also not make it out like gays are all kosher now in society... we had a huge mass shooting of a gay club recently.

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Agreed, there are bad apples from all walks of life.

[13th Man]

Rich is a cool and a good moderator overall. Just that he didn't exactly put a halt to the situation by continuing with hypotheticals of how my late mother should react and of course the loser shakeandfries would continue to make jokes about it.

[tonman]

Not at the same rate as trans which is 25 times of the general population. Among trans people ages 18-44, the suicide attempt rate was 45 percent which is astronomical, simply ridiculous.

Here's an easy solution. How about not becoming trans in the first place? Who the hell pushed the narrative that this is a thing of beauty? Oh yeah, the Kaitlin Jenner, the celebrities and leftist media. Don't blame the innocent folks that had nothing to do with this absurd agenda, we had nothing to do with this. Jordan Peterson defended himself really well when being attacked by the trans activists, I can post the video but I won't because I know you guys won't watch it.

So ask yourself why trans have a high suicide rate and then a better solution would appear.

How about you cut to the root of the issue by not endorsing the trans movement? You are looking for sources to blame rather than treating the root cause.

I'm not the one with a predetermined viewpoint of the issue. Freedom of choice. Once you understand that we can move on....

[13th Man]

This is what happens when you get bullied on a forum my multiple posters and have to incessantly defend yourself. Yes, I am playing the victim card here but I have complained about this in the past and nothing gets done about it. The moderator even joins in to make jokes about my mother.

Continue on with your new found angle about me being a child-abuser, I'm not surprised that you would pounce on something like this.

No one is bullying you. We are pointing out the ignorance of your statements. if you can not reconcile that, then that is on you. No one made a joke about your mother. They made an anology about how she would feel in a certain situation and you took offense to that because she isnt alive. its not like there was some "your-mama so fat" joke.

No one called you a child abuser. people QUOTED you after you send you would slap your child silly if he told you he identified as a girl. those YOUR words. not ours. if you meant something else, thats fine, but you cant expect us to read what you wrote, verbatim, and know you where "joking" or "using a figure of speach" especially when you have shown no empathy during these conversations.

You can not come somewhere, spew ignorance, generalize any opposing view points as "leftist" propaganda, brush off anything you said that wa soffensive as "old fashioned way", play the "but i have a black friend i cant be racist" thing and expect people to assume the best when you say you are going to hit your kid if he told you he was trans.

its hard to be sympathetic in this situation

If you want to hide behind semantics, that's fine but they all know what they have been accusing me of to no end. I have a right to defend myself, although I have been ignoring the latest batch of childish drivel.