GT: Grizzlies vs Nets - Monday, 03/19/18, 7:30pm EST

[Paradise]

Playing all the teams who are tanking will inflate our win total at the end of the season. Were still terrible.

Good win though.

While that is true, the same thing hppened last year and we only got to 20 wins. If we reach 28 wins this year, wins against tanking teams or not, that is a considerable improvement.

And Kenny came into this season saying we need to show improvement out of respect for ownership. We’ve got a new one coming in 2021. We probably need to show any kind of improvement in the W column at this point with a year removed from some long term decisions.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Playing all the teams who are tanking will inflate our win total at the end of the season. Were still terrible.

Good win though.

While that is true, the same thing hppened last year and we only got to 20 wins. If we reach 28 wins this year, wins against tanking teams or not, that is a considerable improvement.

True.

But how scary is it that we got an inflated 20 wins? One of the worst teams of the decade.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Playing all the teams who are tanking will inflate our win total at the end of the season. Were still terrible.

Good win though.

While that is true, the same thing hppened last year and we only got to 20 wins. If we reach 28 wins this year, wins against tanking teams or not, that is a considerable improvement.

True.

But how scary is it that we got an inflated 20 wins? One of the worst teams of the decade.

For some reason I feel like that year still wasn’t as bad as missing out on John Wall.

[Prokorov]

I highly disagree. I think our talent simply overlaps each other. We don’t play set rotations, we still throw out all sorts of combos.

It’s not going to work until we settle into giving the keys to one guy at every position of their strengths.

Two weeks ago, Caris has 27 against the Clippers while D-Lo hit a wall and two weeks later, D-Lo has a really good stretch and Dinwiddie/Allen hit a wall.

We simply don’t have enough on court leadership (Booker is missed a lot), we don’t have enough defined roles, we are still in figure it out mode.

The understanding here is about full talent. If we want to talk about the closest full talent player we have it's DLo and Levert. We're still in talent acquisition mode. Lin's contract is a great piece on draft night.

Allen is a full talent. He’s established that rep. We tend to look way too much at draft ranking when determining the difference.

Talent acquisition mode needs to end after this upcoming draft. Set in stone our current core and play out the 18-19 season with hopes of a potential mid-season tank job by dealing off any valued contracts for an additional pick (no, it doesn’t have to be intentional tanking. )

Entering the 2019 free agent class with a locked in core of DLo/LeVert/RHJ/Allen/18’ Pick + 19’ Top 10 Pick with cap space is the light at the end of the tunnel.

i wouldnt say levert is full talent. subpar defensively and not great offensively. he does alot ok but nothing all that well. still young but doesnt have great size or athleticism either.

[bws94]

The understanding here is about full talent. If we want to talk about the closest full talent player we have it's DLo and Levert. We're still in talent acquisition mode. Lin's contract is a great piece on draft night.

Allen is a full talent. He’s established that rep. We tend to look way too much at draft ranking when determining the difference.

Talent acquisition mode needs to end after this upcoming draft. Set in stone our current core and play out the 18-19 season with hopes of a potential mid-season tank job by dealing off any valued contracts for an additional pick (no, it doesn’t have to be intentional tanking. )

Entering the 2019 free agent class with a locked in core of DLo/LeVert/RHJ/Allen/18’ Pick + 19’ Top 10 Pick with cap space is the light at the end of the tunnel.

i wouldnt say levert is full talent. subpar defensively and not great offensively. he does alot ok but nothing all that well. still young but doesnt have great size or athleticism either.

I strongly disagree. I think he does pretty well on defense and he's the one guy that gets in the paint at will and the best drive and kick and PnR player with the big man in the PnR. I'm very big on LeVert.

[Papi_swav]

Allen is a full talent. He’s established that rep. We tend to look way too much at draft ranking when determining the difference.

Talent acquisition mode needs to end after this upcoming draft. Set in stone our current core and play out the 18-19 season with hopes of a potential mid-season tank job by dealing off any valued contracts for an additional pick (no, it doesn’t have to be intentional tanking. )

Entering the 2019 free agent class with a locked in core of DLo/LeVert/RHJ/Allen/18’ Pick + 19’ Top 10 Pick with cap space is the light at the end of the tunnel.

i wouldnt say levert is full talent. subpar defensively and not great offensively. he does alot ok but nothing all that well. still young but doesnt have great size or athleticism either.

I strongly disagree. I think he does pretty well on defense and he's the one guy that gets in the paint at will and the best drive and kick and PnR player with the big man in the PnR. I'm very big on LeVert.

I agree with bws, Levert can get to the rim very easily because of his first step and he knows how to change his speed when he's driving to the lane, the way he twists his body when he's up in the air for a layup reminds me of Kyrie. There is a lot of potential with Levert, it's going to take him a couple years though which I'm ok with but he's a keeper.

[MrDollarBills]

This is one place we will always disagree. Lin is no star, he's a borderline starter, but he is/was a slightly above average player and a guy who means a lot in terms of leadership and just teaching guys, practice, to the late night road parties, to the court.

I take it you have watched enough Lin’s game to observe that. His doesn’t have crazy stats but he’s a great floor general who runs both the offense and the defense really well, constantly telling his teammates where to be. Plus he does a little assistant coaching on the bench too. Of course I’m writing all of this in present tense although he’s not even playing lol

He's getting traded this offseason. We'll likely package him for Kawhi or a draft pick.

If the Nets trade Jeremy Lin for Kawhi Leonard I'll make my avatar a picture of Donald Trump no way that either happens.

[kamaze]

I take it you have watched enough Lin’s game to observe that. His doesn’t have crazy stats but he’s a great floor general who runs both the offense and the defense really well, constantly telling his teammates where to be. Plus he does a little assistant coaching on the bench too. Of course I’m writing all of this in present tense although he’s not even playing lol

He's getting traded this offseason. We'll likely package him for Kawhi or a draft pick.

If the Nets trade Jeremy Lin for Kawhi Leonard I'll make my avatar a picture of Donald Trump no way that either happens.

I think it was a joke. Make it Obama bruh and I'm in on the bet.

[LOUiS-D]

The understanding here is about full talent. If we want to talk about the closest full talent player we have it's DLo and Levert. We're still in talent acquisition mode. Lin's contract is a great piece on draft night.

Allen is a full talent. He’s established that rep. We tend to look way too much at draft ranking when determining the difference.

Talent acquisition mode needs to end after this upcoming draft. Set in stone our current core and play out the 18-19 season with hopes of a potential mid-season tank job by dealing off any valued contracts for an additional pick (no, it doesn’t have to be intentional tanking. )

Entering the 2019 free agent class with a locked in core of DLo/LeVert/RHJ/Allen/18’ Pick + 19’ Top 10 Pick with cap space is the light at the end of the tunnel.

i wouldnt say levert is full talent. subpar defensively and not great offensively. he does alot ok but nothing all that well. still young but doesnt have great size or athleticism either.

To my eye he has elite quickness. Can you expand on why he's subpar defensively?

[Prokorov]

Allen is a full talent. He’s established that rep. We tend to look way too much at draft ranking when determining the difference.

Talent acquisition mode needs to end after this upcoming draft. Set in stone our current core and play out the 18-19 season with hopes of a potential mid-season tank job by dealing off any valued contracts for an additional pick (no, it doesn’t have to be intentional tanking. )

Entering the 2019 free agent class with a locked in core of DLo/LeVert/RHJ/Allen/18’ Pick + 19’ Top 10 Pick with cap space is the light at the end of the tunnel.

i wouldnt say levert is full talent. subpar defensively and not great offensively. he does alot ok but nothing all that well. still young but doesnt have great size or athleticism either.

I strongly disagree. I think he does pretty well on defense and he's the one guy that gets in the paint at will and the best drive and kick and PnR player with the big man in the PnR. I'm very big on LeVert.

the stats would disagree with all of those other then pnr were he is right there

[Prokorov]

Allen is a full talent. He’s established that rep. We tend to look way too much at draft ranking when determining the difference.

Talent acquisition mode needs to end after this upcoming draft. Set in stone our current core and play out the 18-19 season with hopes of a potential mid-season tank job by dealing off any valued contracts for an additional pick (no, it doesn’t have to be intentional tanking. )

Entering the 2019 free agent class with a locked in core of DLo/LeVert/RHJ/Allen/18’ Pick + 19’ Top 10 Pick with cap space is the light at the end of the tunnel.

i wouldnt say levert is full talent. subpar defensively and not great offensively. he does alot ok but nothing all that well. still young but doesnt have great size or athleticism either.

To my eye he has elite quickness. Can you expand on why he's subpar defensively?

elite quickness? i would dispute that. he doesnt play above the rim either. nothing wrong with that. but its not like he has harden type physical skills. is he quick? yes. elite quickness? not close

[MrDollarBills]

I wouldn't say he's sub par defensively at all. He definitely has nights where he has lapses that often go unnoticed though. Our best defensive players are Allen, RHJ, Carroll and then LeVert.

On a positive note, he is now shooting 36% from downtown. that's a huge step forward.

we need Russell to get himself into that range % wise consistently as well. right now he's hitting at a 32% clip but is shooting 40% through this month, which is an encouraging sign.

[Yit]

Tracking players performance vs Grizzlies 19 Mar 2018

Crabbe - 45 (++)
CLV - 42 (+++)
RHJ - 35 (+)
DMC - 31 (+)
DAR - 26 (=)
Acy - 16 (=)
Allen - 14 (-)
Dinwiddie - 12 (=)
Harris - 0 (--)