Why this Nuggets team should be a Fast-Break Team

Post #1 » by **NuggetsWY** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:34 am

Fast-break teams do not have to be the fastest teams with the fastest players. The Showtime Lakers fast-break was spearheaded by Magic Johnson who was certainly not a speed-burner. A fast-break team needs to have guards/wings that release early. They need to have someone clear the ball and make the outlet pass. They need a team full of players that believe in passing-the-ball is faster than dribbling the ball.

So if the fast break starts with someone clearing the ball and making an outlet pass, who is better at that than Jokic? His long bomb/touchdown passes are becoming legendary and all outlets do not need to be long bombs. If there are two players at mid-court on either side, they make great outlets. Millsap & Plumlee would also be fairly decent at the mid-court outlets.

Most of the Nuggets are fairly decent ball-handlers, despite their excessive turnovers. Most of those turnovers come from unnecessarily showy passes and/or over-passing. Fast-break passes tend to be less showy/more straight forward. The other players not at mid-court or gathering the rebound, can sprint full speed. The Nuggets have quite a few good finishers.

If the fast-break doesn't happen, Jokic (and most Nuggets centers/forwards are capable of dribbling up court).

Then again, we could keep Malone's system and the only fast-breaks will be when one, maybe two players sprint and Jokic throws a long bomb - TOUCHDOWN! Yay! Celebrate!

U hova · Post #2 » by **U hova** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:32 am

They're a fast-break team in the sense that they're the first to quit.

skywalker33 · Post #3 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:29 am

U hova wrote:They're a fast-break team in the sense that they're the first to quit.

Just ANOTHER one-liner,no substance proving my point :roll:

GSWNation20 · Post #4 » by **GSWNation20** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:02 am

Fastbreak? With a plodder like Jokic? Hahahaha. Get real, with him and the other terrible defenders you have you aint going nowhere. Who's the chump you guys made out to be a franchise guard? Murray? Well he's fallen off a cliff! Harris is ok as like a 7th man off the bench. Milsap is old and can't even stay healthy and when he is he's not effective anyway. Haha you guys all talking about how you were a playoff team this season. Not even close......better start tanking hahaha.

Post #5 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:15 am

GSWNation20 wrote:Fastbreak? With a plodder like Jokic? Hahahaha. Get real, with him and the other terrible defenders you have you aint going nowhere. Who's the chump you guys made out to be a franchise guard? Murray? Well he's fallen off a cliff! Harris is ok as like a 7th man off the bench. Milsap is old and can't even stay healthy and when he is he's not effective anyway. Haha you guys all talking about how you were a playoff team this season. Not even close......better start tanking hahaha.

I'd suggest you stay away from this board if all you want to do is bad mouth players. Your ignorance is showing since you clearly couldn't even read what I wrote. I never said Jokic was going to be dashing down the court. I said he'd be making the outlet pass and if that didn't work, he could bring the ball up court. He already does that often anyway.

Your evaluation of Murray & Harris is not only backwards as to which is the best guard, at least today, but you contradict all of the former players and professional commentators. Millsap was an All-Star four seasons in a row (granted in the East, but still not easy). He is less injury prone than some of your players (which you'd probably realize if you weren't a bandwagon jumper.

Please do not return unless you can contribute something in a meaningful manner. Your post was rude and considered trolling. I would suggest you learn the rules of RealGM. There are boards where rudeness is welcome. It is not welcome on the Nuggets Board.

skywalker33 · Post #6 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:07 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
GSWNation20 wrote:Fastbreak? With a plodder like Jokic? Hahahaha. Get real, with him and the other terrible defenders you have you aint going nowhere. Who's the chump you guys made out to be a franchise guard? Murray? Well he's fallen off a cliff! Harris is ok as like a 7th man off the bench. Milsap is old and can't even stay healthy and when he is he's not effective anyway. Haha you guys all talking about how you were a playoff team this season. Not even close......better start tanking hahaha.

I'd suggest you stay away from this board if all you want to do is bad mouth players. Your ignorance is showing since you clearly couldn't even read what I wrote. I never said Jokic was going to be dashing down the court. I said he'd be making the outlet pass and if that didn't work, he could bring the ball up court. He already does that often anyway.

Your evaluation of Murray & Harris is not only backwards as to which is the best guard, at least today, but you contradict all of the former players and professional commentators. Millsap was an All-Star four seasons in a row (granted in the East, but still not easy). He is less injury prone than some of your players (which you'd probably realize if you weren't a bandwagon jumper

Please do not return unless you can contribute something in a meaningful manner. Your post was rude and considered trolling. I would suggest you learn the rules of RealGM. There are boards where rudeness is welcome. It is not welcome on the Nuggets Board.

Just ban him already, bet he doesn't even make it to 50 posts before he does get banned. Read all his posts so far, he's just a Troll-poster, do us all a favor now !

Post #7 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:32 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
GSWNation20 wrote:Fastbreak? With a plodder like Jokic? Hahahaha. Get real, with him and the other terrible defenders you have you aint going nowhere. Who's the chump you guys made out to be a franchise guard? Murray? Well he's fallen off a cliff! Harris is ok as like a 7th man off the bench. Milsap is old and can't even stay healthy and when he is he's not effective anyway. Haha you guys all talking about how you were a playoff team this season. Not even close......better start tanking hahaha.

I'd suggest you stay away from this board if all you want to do is bad mouth players. Your ignorance is showing since you clearly couldn't even read what I wrote. I never said Jokic was going to be dashing down the court. I said he'd be making the outlet pass and if that didn't work, he could bring the ball up court. He already does that often anyway.

Your evaluation of Murray & Harris is not only backwards as to which is the best guard, at least today, but you contradict all of the former players and professional commentators. Millsap was an All-Star four seasons in a row (granted in the East, but still not easy). He is less injury prone than some of your players (which you'd probably realize if you weren't a bandwagon jumper

Please do not return unless you can contribute something in a meaningful manner. Your post was rude and considered trolling. I would suggest you learn the rules of RealGM. There are boards where rudeness is welcome. It is not welcome on the Nuggets Board.

Just ban him already, bet he doesn't even make it to 50 posts before he does get banned. Read all his posts so far, he's just a Troll-poster, do us all a favor now !

Any ban I can make is very small/short. Without speaking out of school, his other posts have drawn the attention required - of that there can be no doubt.

Richard Miller · Post #8 » by **Richard Miller** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:52 pm

It's probably a throwaway account anyway

Zaccaibone · Post #9 » by **Zaccaibone** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:42 pm

We got to improve our defense in order to have to happen

Post #10 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:26 pm

Zaccaibone wrote:We got to improve our defense in order to have to happen

Steals can lead to fast-breaks but more fast-breaks start off from rebounds - either way, you are correct, the Nuggets are lacking the beginning of the fast-breaks. Still, they could do more, if Malone wasn't so intent on slowing down in order to have a better half-court offense (reminds me of Shaw).

Post #11 » by **The Rebel** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:39 am

YOu know it is funny, people think that fast break teams do not take much BBIQ, but to be a true fast break team you have to have some smart, unselfish, and hardworking players, which we have.

To be a fast break team you have to gamble on defense and you have to have 1 or 2 guys who are ready to sprint down the court after every shot goes up affecting team rebounding and allowing the occasional easy basket.

Malone allowing the Nuggets to play Jokic ball in the half court has taken half the season and over half the season the last 2 years, no way he would be okay with a true fast break offense, and his defense would not allow for a fast break team.

Fact is the Nuggets defense takes a ton of energy from the guards and Centers, they spend the entire defense chasing their guys all over the court and through screens. I do not see anyway that Malone would ever allow switching and floaters on his defense. Even if this team's personnel is set up to have a gambling defense.

The other thing about it is that we have a huge advantage with the altitude, teams can keep up for a little while but eventually they run out of gas at the higher altitude, and even at low altitude if the team is in good shape than you still have a huge advantage living at high altitude.

We would still have a good half court offense with Jokic, as just free lancing and guys playing off the ball resulted in a top 3 offense for this team this year.

The one issue is that Malone is likely not getting fired, as much as many of us think he should be the media is pushing the idea of keeping him too hard. Either they all love the way Malone kisses their asses, or it is being pushed by the front office, but either way I don't think he is being fired this year, and likely will be given at least half of the season next year.