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Re: 2017-2018 College Basketball / '18 NBA Draft Thread I 

Post#1721 » by PhilasFinest » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:31 am

Bamba and Trae Young have declared.
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Post#1722 » by PLO » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:04 pm

I'm watching a bit of yesterday's NIT to see Aric Holman and Deng Adel, Holman looks pretty good but the guy who really pops is Lamar Peters.

Edit: he's basically disappeared as the game has gone on, still he's got a slick iso game.
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Post#1723 » by Kobblehead » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:37 pm

I remember Lamar Peters getting crazy hype over the summer. Like even being mocked in the Top 10, at one point. Apparently he had a big summer on the Adidas trail.

It's a hard sell for me to draft a player with a 46% true shooting, though.
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Post#1724 » by PLO » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:36 am

Kobblehead wrote:I remember Lamar Peters getting crazy hype over the summer. Like even being mocked in the Top 10, at one point. Apparently he had a big summer on the Adidas trail.

It's a hard sell for me to draft a player with a 46% true shooting, though.


TBH he'd be silly to declare this year, Miss State have a good program and he should improve over the summer. At this stage he's a real handful to guard one on one but other parts of his game are very raw.
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Re: 2017-2018 College Basketball / '18 NBA Draft Thread I 

Post#1725 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:13 am

Kobblehead wrote:100% agree with putting a heavy emphasis on getting a shotcreater with our early pick. 3&D guys and other supporting players turn into wallpaper on teams that don't have initiators in the line-up with them. Look at the starter/reserve splits of guys like Luwawu and Saric for a prime example.


We definitely need another shot creator, with the team on the floor it should be obvious. We can't just count on Fultz to fix that (no matter what personal opinion of him might be), with Ben having no jumper (and can't just assume he will get one), we need a guy who can get his shot with 5 secs left on the clock not another 3&D like Roco standing out there watching. Right now we have noone on our team who can get a good shot at the top of the key with 5 secs left on the clock, that has to change.

I would also trade up in order to get this shot creator if need be and the right player is available, not just sit there at 11 (or whatever) staring at someone who can't create his own shot. Every team needs at least a couple of guys that can create his own shot, and right now we stand at zero. When Fultz comes back, and even if we signed Bron......I would still want another shot creator out of this draft.
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Post#1726 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:01 pm

I have a super brilliant idea.

Draft Michael Porter Jr. then red shirt him. Boom! :lol:
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Post#1727 » by Kolkmania » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:12 pm

I highly doubt that we add two more first round picks to our rotation next year. With Markelle Fultz, Furkan Korkmaz and Jonah Bolden we already have three "rookies" in our rotation. Combining our two picks to acquire a slipping Michael Porter jr. or Trae Young would definitely have my interest. 8-)

Haven't put much effort in this year's draft class, how is the international group looking? Musa and Bonga had some hot streaks throughout the year, but haven't heard much of them lately.
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Post#1728 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:20 pm

Kolkmania wrote:I highly doubt that we add two more first round picks to our rotation next year. With Markelle Fultz, Furkan Korkmaz and Jonah Bolden we already have three "rookies" in our rotation. Combining our two picks to acquire a slipping Michael Porter jr. or Trae Young would definitely have my interest. 8-)

Haven't put much effort in this year's draft class, how is the international group looking? Musa and Bonga had some hot streaks throughout the year, but haven't heard much of them lately.


When in doubt, draft a 3&D wing or a D&D (dunk&defense) big.
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Post#1729 » by Kolkmania » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:31 pm

Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, Saric, Covington, Anderson, Korkmaz, Bolden, TLC, Holmes and TJ look like surefire roster guys next year.
So 4 spots, for FA's and picks. I expect at least two FA's, a defensive-first backup center and a shooting wing. Unless we trade Holmes or so, we have just two spots for 2 FRP's and 4 SRP's (2 high ones).

I personally would love to add more young talent, but I don't think that BC shares that reasoning.
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Post#1730 » by Negrodamus » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:50 pm

Kolkmania wrote:Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, Saric, Covington, Anderson, Korkmaz, Bolden, TLC, Holmes and TJ look like surefire roster guys next year.
So 4 spots, for FA's and picks. I expect at least two FA's, a defensive-first backup center and a shooting wing. Unless we trade Holmes or so, we have just two spots for 2 FRP's and 4 SRP's (2 high ones).

I personally would love to add more young talent, but I don't think that BC shares that reasoning.


I'm pretty sure Colangelo wants Bolden to stay another year overseas. I'd honestly be okay if we traded Holmes since I don't see much of a future with him. Same with TLC to an extent. His contract is good, but I'm not sure he'll ever be much and would rather take a chance elsewhere.

I think we trade up in the draft to get a contributor/someone to groom. We make a substantial run at LeBron. Then we fill the remaining spots with 7-10 year vets that can come in in a pinch.
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Post#1731 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:05 pm

Anfernee Simons then redshirt him. Maybe for two years lol
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Post#1732 » by Negrodamus » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:15 pm

76ciology wrote:Anfernee Simons then redshirt him. Maybe for two years lol


I treat players like him the same way I do with foreign players: I don't see enough of them to make an educated guess. I will say that his shot, while a quick release, looks like he's preparing to take a dump and the release is also low/early in the jump process. Can probably be adjusted, but that's my instant takeaway from what I've seen. No idea how his defense looks or if he can blow by NBA caliber prospects.
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Post#1733 » by Kolkmania » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:41 pm

Brauer wrote:That one reddit thread convinced me of Zhaire


Link? I'm catching up on Texas Tech, but Jarrett Culver looks interesting to me as well. He's listed as 6'5'', but looks significantly bigger than Smith to me. If he's 6'6'', 6'7'' then his ball handling ability and defense looks intriguing imo.
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Post#1734 » by Kolkmania » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:45 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, Saric, Covington, Anderson, Korkmaz, Bolden, TLC, Holmes and TJ look like surefire roster guys next year.
So 4 spots, for FA's and picks. I expect at least two FA's, a defensive-first backup center and a shooting wing. Unless we trade Holmes or so, we have just two spots for 2 FRP's and 4 SRP's (2 high ones).

I personally would love to add more young talent, but I don't think that BC shares that reasoning.


I'm pretty sure Colangelo wants Bolden to stay another year overseas. I'd honestly be okay if we traded Holmes since I don't see much of a future with him. Same with TLC to an extent. His contract is good, but I'm not sure he'll ever be much and would rather take a chance elsewhere.

I think we trade up in the draft to get a contributor/someone to groom. We make a substantial run at LeBron. Then we fill the remaining spots with 7-10 year vets that can come in in a pinch.


It's not the same situation as Dario because he wasn't a first round pick and therefore his contract isn't locked, therefore the benefits aren't as big in this case.

If we can get a protected 2020 1st round pick/2 second round picks (or something similar) for Richaun Holmes I'd pull the trigger as well. TLC I'd keep around tbh. I think he's knee has been nagging all season long and the primary reason for his disappointing season.
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Post#1735 » by Negrodamus » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:53 pm

If we're taking guys that look like they are taking a dump when they shoot, I'd rather gamble on someone who put up pretty absurd numbers on both sides of the ball.

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Post#1736 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:06 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, Saric, Covington, Anderson, Korkmaz, Bolden, TLC, Holmes and TJ look like surefire roster guys next year.
So 4 spots, for FA's and picks. I expect at least two FA's, a defensive-first backup center and a shooting wing. Unless we trade Holmes or so, we have just two spots for 2 FRP's and 4 SRP's (2 high ones).

I personally would love to add more young talent, but I don't think that BC shares that reasoning.


I'm pretty sure Colangelo wants Bolden to stay another year overseas. I'd honestly be okay if we traded Holmes since I don't see much of a future with him. Same with TLC to an extent. His contract is good, but I'm not sure he'll ever be much and would rather take a chance elsewhere.

I think we trade up in the draft to get a contributor/someone to groom. We make a substantial run at LeBron. Then we fill the remaining spots with 7-10 year vets that can come in in a pinch.


Yeah for these reasons alone I really want to trade up in this draft, cause I will really hate it when BC starts selling picks off instead of getting something for them. I really don't care if its our first one or second one in the first round, but I would really like to move up with either of them. Move into the top 10 with the Lakers pick or top 18 with our pick or a radical idea and trade both our picks to move up high.

Love to get a shot creator with the first one (multiple choices for this in the top 10), and a high flying big to backup Embiid (Gafford perhaps or RWilliams if we think he can play in the middle), and worry about 3&D in the second round if we have any picks there. Hard to find great guards in free agency, not even worrying about Fultz, it would be nice to get another guy in this draft that makes our guard rotation of JJ, Marco, and TJ all replaceable.
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Post#1737 » by LloydFree » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:06 pm

Bruce Brown has declared for the NBA draft. If he stays in, he'll get drafted in the 2nd round by Pat Riley (Miami) or Jerry West (Clippers) and likely become a better NBA player than 10 different guards drafted ahead of him in the 1st round.
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Post#1738 » by Negrodamus » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:11 pm

LloydFree wrote:Bruce Brown has declared for the NBA draft. If he stays in, he'll get drafted in the 2nd round by Pat Riley (Miami) or Jerry West (Clippers) and likely become a better NBA player than 10 different guards drafted ahead of him in the 1st round.


I can't imagine he'll stay in the draft if he doesn't get a first round promise.
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Post#1739 » by LloydFree » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:18 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Bruce Brown has declared for the NBA draft. If he stays in, he'll get drafted in the 2nd round by Pat Riley (Miami) or Jerry West (Clippers) and likely become a better NBA player than 10 different guards drafted ahead of him in the 1st round.


I can't imagine he'll stay in the draft if he doesn't get a first round promise.


Unless he kills in a private workout, I doubt be gets a promise. He's been hurt most of the season.
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Post#1740 » by Mik317 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:13 am

him being hurt is probably what pushed him out the door...cash in while you can
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