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Post#1121 » by Revived » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:05 am

I really think it would be beneficial for the Suns to try this with Warren.




Could end up being extremely beneficial for the Suns. But the Suns FO and staff have to open their eyes and see it as well.
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Revived wrote:I really think it would be beneficial for the Suns to try this with Warren.




Could end up being extremely beneficial for the Suns. But the Suns FO and staff have to open their eyes and see it as well.


You dont think that they have talked to him about the importance of opening the lane up by developing a 3pt shot? I would bet that it is part of every single exit interview he has had with the Suns since they drafted him.
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Post#1123 » by Revived » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:03 pm

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Revived wrote:I really think it would be beneficial for the Suns to try this with Warren.




Could end up being extremely beneficial for the Suns. But the Suns FO and staff have to open their eyes and see it as well.


You dont think that they have talked to him about the importance of opening the lane up by developing a 3pt shot? I would bet that it is part of every single exit interview he has had with the Suns since they drafted him.

So are you saying he’s just defiant then? They told him to shoot 3s and yet season after season he refuses to do so?

Warren doesn’t come off to me as someone with a defiant personality which is why I thought they haven’t told him yet to shoot more 3s.
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Post#1124 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:17 pm

DeRozan takes 3 attempts a game (at 31%) so he's still terrible some players just can't shoot from 3.
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Post#1125 » by Damkac » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:27 pm

He was born too late. Could be an all-star in the pre-Curry era.
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Post#1126 » by Waylay13 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:29 pm

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Revived wrote:I really think it would be beneficial for the Suns to try this with Warren.




Could end up being extremely beneficial for the Suns. But the Suns FO and staff have to open their eyes and see it as well.


You dont think that they have talked to him about the importance of opening the lane up by developing a 3pt shot? I would bet that it is part of every single exit interview he has had with the Suns since they drafted him.

So are you saying he’s just defiant then? They told him to shoot 3s and yet season after season he refuses to do so?

Warren doesn’t come off to me as someone with a defiant personality which is why I thought they haven’t told him yet to shoot more 3s.


Warren doesnt see the need to work on 3pt shooting in the off season. He says I was one of the highest scorers in the nation in college,he is averaging 20 ppg in the NBA, and if you look at his skills he hasnt add any additional skills since college. So is he a defiant personality? No he just see the need to change his game.
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Post#1127 » by bwgood77 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:15 pm

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You dont think that they have talked to him about the importance of opening the lane up by developing a 3pt shot? I would bet that it is part of every single exit interview he has had with the Suns since they drafted him.

So are you saying he’s just defiant then? They told him to shoot 3s and yet season after season he refuses to do so?

Warren doesn’t come off to me as someone with a defiant personality which is why I thought they haven’t told him yet to shoot more 3s.


Warren doesnt see the need to work on 3pt shooting in the off season. He says I was one of the highest scorers in the nation in college,he is averaging 20 ppg in the NBA, and if you look at his skills he hasnt add any additional skills since college. So is he a defiant personality? No he just see the need to change his game.


Well, it's probably something that Triano has talked to him about this season, but it's tough mid season to start shooting more when you are shooting 22% or so. Doesn't do anyone any good to start shooting more then.

TJ rarely played his first season, and then played a little more in his second season and had his 40% from 3 but broke his foot halfway through it and had to continue to get back to form in the summer...and by then Watson was his coach. Who knows what Watson told him? So last summer was the first real off season he probably would have worked on it coming off of shooting 26.5% last year, but it doesn't sound like Watson or the team did much to prepare themselves for the season outside of the yoga sessions, beach trips and hiking or whatever.

My guess is Triano has told him he needs to improve there and shoot if he's open but when you are shooting low 20s it's something that should be focused on the offseason.

So they really need to get TJ and JJ to shoot a ton of 3s this offseason. JJ shoots about what TJ did last season but his poor FT shooting might make it tougher to improve. Both need to work on it though because it would open up our offense and make them much bigger offensive threats if they could even shoot 33% from 3.
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I think it kind of sucks they ask him stuff like that right after the season ends. Personally I think he'd be fine with whatever as long as he got his playing time.
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Post#1130 » by gaspar » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:09 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I think it kind of sucks they ask him stuff like that right after the season ends. Personally I think he'd be fine with whatever as long as he got his playing time.

Yeah, I'm all for reporters asking the tough questions, but this is not the right time to ask a question like that.
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Post#1131 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:11 pm

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I think it kind of sucks they ask him stuff like that right after the season ends. Personally I think he'd be fine with whatever as long as he got his playing time.


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Post#1132 » by kennydorglas » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:04 pm

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Post#1133 » by Biff » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:43 pm

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You dont think that they have talked to him about the importance of opening the lane up by developing a 3pt shot? I would bet that it is part of every single exit interview he has had with the Suns since they drafted him.

So are you saying he’s just defiant then? They told him to shoot 3s and yet season after season he refuses to do so?

Warren doesn’t come off to me as someone with a defiant personality which is why I thought they haven’t told him yet to shoot more 3s.


Warren doesnt see the need to work on 3pt shooting in the off season. He says I was one of the highest scorers in the nation in college,he is averaging 20 ppg in the NBA, and if you look at his skills he hasnt add any additional skills since college. So is he a defiant personality? No he just see the need to change his game.


The problem is that he isn't all that efficient. He's sandwiched between Marcus Morris and Wesley Matthews in TS%. If he could become a 35% 3pt shooter and could give us around 2 3's a game, I'd feel more comfortable having him as a longterm scoring option. Right now, he's fairly average efficiency wise. He's okay but I don't think he's a quality starter. He needs to work on becoming a decent 3pt shooter. At the very least a good corner specialist.
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Post#1135 » by jcsunsfan » Mon May 14, 2018 10:37 pm

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Post#1136 » by bwgood77 » Mon May 14, 2018 10:40 pm

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I don't know? What's the weather like? But probably. Probably nice to have a real coach and a fresh start. I think Igor relates to players very well from what I've read.
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Post#1137 » by kennydorglas » Mon May 14, 2018 11:29 pm

'Hey TJ, are you ready to improve that 3P% to 35?'
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Post#1138 » by TASTIC » Tue May 15, 2018 12:39 am

I'd prefer him in the second unit - he would light second units UP.

No reason he doesn't get 30mpg off the bench, with plenty of spot starts and the mantle of go to scorer in the second unit. Jackson is a superior ball handler and passer to him so they'd actually play well together surrounded by a couple of shooters.
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Post#1139 » by MathiasPW » Tue May 15, 2018 12:56 am

I don't really buy the argument that Warren would crush 2nd units as a 6th man. Warren can't create for himself. He would greatly benefit from a good system that sets him up with good looks at the elbows and better defense that allows him to score in transition.

I think Josh has more of that dynamo profile than Warren. He could be the 1st of the bench and the one closing games.

Or we could play them together, but I fail to see how. Kokoskov would have to get really creative.
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Post#1140 » by bwgood77 » Tue May 15, 2018 1:47 am

MathiasPW wrote:I don't really buy the argument that Warren would crush 2nd units as a 6th man. Warren can't create for himself. He would greatly benefit from a good system that sets him up with good looks at the elbows and better defense that allows him to score in transition.

I think Josh has more of that dynamo profile than Warren. He could be the 1st of the bench and the one closing games.

Or we could play them together, but I fail to see how. Kokoskov would have to get really creative.


I think he could crush those second units depending on who he is playing with. But moreso he's just the first guy off the bench to go play against mostly starters...he would play enough minutes to play mostly against starters.

I think Kokoskov will like his skillset and hopefully he can help him improve on his confidence with outside shooting. TJ is SO good from mid range and even fairly long 2s that I think it's more of a mental hurdle he needs to get over and I think Igor can help him.

I do agree Josh is a great sparkplug off the bench too.

To me it doesn't matter as long as we start to get better.

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