Political Roundtable Part XIX

[Wizardspride]

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[montestewart]

An outsider ran. and won. This is suppose to be a good thing. This is the only path to cleaning up washington. this is the only path sustainable government. this is the path to doing things differently. Outsiders are the only path.

Carter was an "outsider"
Reagan was an "outsider"
Clinton was an "outsider"
W. Bush was (intellectually, at least) an "outsider"
Obama was an "outsider"

Five of the last six presidents were outsiders. How much more cleaning up is one filthy rich, well-connected, spoiled, petulant, insecure, misogynistic buffoon going to get done? Speaking of scorched earth, that seems to be what he's selling as "change"

Grifters are usually outsiders who bring about change. A bull in a china shop is also an outsider that will bring about change. Terrorists are frequently outsiders who bring about change. Hitler was an outsider who brought about change. Such simplistic notions fuel Trump's popularity. Start with a conclusion, then selectively arrange facts so they appear to support that conclusion. Maybe you'll get what you want, maybe you won't, but you'll always be wrong. You just can't help it.

[closg00]

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Shocker, can't have embarrassing information about Cambridge Analytica/Trump getting out. Need the Dems to take-over the house and watch Nunes's head explode.

[Pointgod]

I think Bolton is the perfect choice right now. Bolton is full of common sense to see the trump foreign policy campaign pledges through.

Man sure dodged a bullet with that warmonger Killary

[montestewart]

never trust a man whose mustache grows into his mouth

[Pointgod]

I find it strange that so many of the Presidents that seem so gung ho about conflict never served and avoided military service. Now we have a National Security Advisor who like Trump avoided military service in Vietnam. But is perfectly willing to send the underclass into combat to lose there lives. With Trumps comments about the fallen soldier in Niger we know how much empathy and basic disgust he has for those who have given the ultimate sacrifice.

McMaster spent his White House tenure trying to save the Iran nuclear deal from Trump. Bolton delights in encouraging Trump to rip it up. In the White House meetings the two have had over the past weeks, Bolton has reiterated his position that nuclear deal is not one that can be “fixed” and that withdrawal as soon as possible is the best course of action, according to two people briefed on their conversations.

Trump, who is loath to fire his subordinates, let McMaster twist in the political wind for weeks. Rumors swirled that General Vincent Brooks might soon leave his command of U.S. forces in Korea, freeing up McMaster for a fourth star and a final, face-saving assignment. Instead, McMaster has opted to retire, raising questions over whether Trump offered him a path to continued service—or if McMaster had had enough. McMaster’s generalship was famously hard-won, coming only on the personal intervention of Petraeus against Army leadership, at the height of Petraeus’ influence.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-gets-the-national-security-adviser-mcmaster-tried-to-prevent?ref=home

Off the top of my head the only politician I can think of that has kids in the military and is still a warmonger is John McCain. Trump and John Bolton pay lip service to the troops but view them as disposable toys in their war. They don't see the humanity only pawns to use for political purposes.

[Ruzious]

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Shocker, can't have embarrassing information about Cambridge Analytica/Trump getting out. Need the Dems to take-over the house and watch Nunes's head explode.

Trump ran on being transparent. Ironically, we can see through the lack of transparency.

[FAH1223]

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[cammac]

Looks like in Alabama Senate race Bannon tried to help little gun, pervert Judge Roy Moore.
Seems Brietbart News tried to bribe on of the lawyers for the victim $10,000.

They asked lawyer Eddie Sexton to drop the woman as a client and say publicly that he did not believe her. The damaging statement would be given to Breitbart News, then run by former White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon.

In exchange, Sexton said in recent interviews, the men offered to pay him $10,000 and promised to introduce him to Bannon and others in the nation’s capital. Parts of Sexton’s account are supported by recorded phone conversations, text messages and people in whom he confided at the time.

What they’re saying, all they want to do is cloud something,” Gary Lantrip, who attended at least one private fundraising event for Moore, said during a phone call recorded by Sexton. “They said if they cloud, like, two of them, then that’s all they need.”

Lantrip also made references to money — at one point speaking haltingly about the “the ten [pause] dollars,” a shorthand for the $10,000 offer, Sexton said.

“We got some chance to do something, make some quick little-bitty for you … and then, on down the line, we can go to D.C.,” Lantrip said during the recorded call.

Sexton said he arrived at the Pelham office and joined Lantrip and Davi in a conference room. He said Lantrip told him that they had the money for him. Boyle, Breitbart’s Washington bureau chief, soon joined them, he said. Minutes later, Aaron Klein, Breitbart’s Jerusalem bureau chief walked in, Sexton said.

Sexton said he was too nervous to record the meeting from his phone.

On the table was a notebook, he said, opened to a page that contained the handwritten statement he was expected to sign. There was little small talk, Sexton said. He said they began discussing the possibility of issuing a statement about Corfman’s credibility.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/23/1751551/-Attorney-for-Moore-accuser-reportedly-turned-down-10-000-bribe-from-friends-of-Bannon-and-Breitbart

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/attorney-says-roy-moore-supporters-offered-him-10000-to-drop-client-who-accused-the-senate-candidate-of-sexual-impropriety/2018/03/23/6d875f2c-02e3-11e8-93f5-53a3a47824e8_story.html?utm_term=.d9744e6b5037

[cammac]

File under Trump Locker Room Defense.
The 3 white terrorists who wanted to bomb Somali refugees in Kansas.
Obviously they were just misunderstood and were just poorly understood after all they are white.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/domestic-terrorism-kansas-militia-plot_us_5ab43c40e4b0decad04865e0

From Kansas the 3 million illegal votes claim by Kris Koback is on trial.

The ACLU repeatedly got Kobach’s experts to concede their work was not always subject to peer review and highlighted flaws in their methodology. In doing so, the ACLU sought to deal a more devastating blow to claims about voter fraud, creating a court record anyone can point to in the future to question claims about illegal voting

But when Richman was on the stand, Dale Ho, the director of the ACLU’s voting rights project, got him to concede that he did not believe noncitizens voting changed the outcome of the popular vote. It was a significant victory for the ACLU because it provided an unequivocal challenge to the basis of Trump and Kobach’s claims about voter fraud.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/kris-kobach-proof-of-citizenship-trial_us_5ab508d2e4b0decad0494b28

[Zonkerbl]

I think Bolton is the perfect choice right now. Bolton is full of common sense to see the trump foreign policy campaign pledges through.
I think Bolton is the perfect choice right now. Bolton is full of common sense to see the trump foreign policy campaign pledges through.
I think Bolton is the perfect choice right now. Bolton is full of common sense to see the trump foreign policy campaign pledges through.
I think Bolton is the perfect choice right now. Bolton is full of common sense to see the trump foreign policy campaign pledges through.
I think Bolton is the perfect choice right now. Bolton is full of common sense to see the trump foreign policy campaign pledges through.

I think Bolton is the perfect choice right now. Bolton is full of common sense to see the trump foreign policy campaign pledges through.

This xmillion

[TGW]

Lol I’m watching cnn right now...the epitome of fake news. Wasting hours and hours on this stupid stormy Daniels story...so stupid and unimportant. And they have the nerve to get mad when they’re called fake news.

[Wizardspride]

Lol I’m watching cnn right now...the epitome of fake news. Wasting hours and hours on this stupid stormy Daniels story...so stupid and unimportant. And they have the nerve to get mad when they’re called fake news.

Unimportant perhaps, but not sure it's fake.

[stilldropin20]

Lol I’m watching cnn right now...the epitome of fake news. Wasting hours and hours on this stupid stormy Daniels story...so stupid and unimportant. And they have the nerve to get mad when they’re called fake news.

Unimportant perhaps, but not sure it's fake.

hard copy would not have even published it in the 90's. even kurt loder would not have given it more than 5 minutes.

[TGW]

Lol I’m watching cnn right now...the epitome of fake news. Wasting hours and hours on this stupid stormy Daniels story...so stupid and unimportant. And they have the nerve to get mad when they’re called fake news.

Unimportant perhaps, but not sure it's fake.

Well if that’s the case, then the national inquirer is real news too.

[Wizardspride]

Lol I’m watching cnn right now...the epitome of fake news. Wasting hours and hours on this stupid stormy Daniels story...so stupid and unimportant. And they have the nerve to get mad when they’re called fake news.

Unimportant perhaps, but not sure it's fake.

Well if that’s the case, then the national inquirer is real news too.

Sometimes it actually is lol

[cammac]

Trade deals are complicated things and concern many different facets of cultural differences. Obviously NAFTA is being redefined and in all agreements there is difference of opinion. This is one while many would think it is trivial it shows a difference between 2 administrations and how they feel about the health of there respective people.

One of the most avant-garde obesity policy experiments is happening in Chile, where health officials are trying to revolutionize nutrition labeling. Instead of cramming percentages and numbers onto the back of food packages, the Chilean government now requires symbol-based warning labels on the front of food products that contain high levels of salt, sugar, calories, and saturated fat.

Canada, where 20 percent of adults have obesity, has taken notice. It’s now on the cusp of becoming the first high-income country to adopt a similar warning system. Meanwhile, Mexico, which has called overweight, obesity, and diabetes public health emergencies, is also considering following Chile’s lead.

According to a leaked document shared with Vox, US trade representatives are seeking to override national food labeling policies in Mexico, Canada — as well as in the US — through the NAFTA renegotiation.

Specifically, the US is proposing a provision about packaged food and non-alcoholic beverages that suggests that countries involved in the trade deal should not adopt front-of-package symbol warnings that “inappropriately denotes that a hazard exists from consumption of the food or non-alcoholic beverages.” The New York Times first reported on the provision Tuesday

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/24/17152144/canada-wants-clearer-warnings-on-junk-food-the-us-is-using-nafta-to-stop-them

[closg00]

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Guys, what do you think that Trump will do to knock the Daniels 60 Minutes interview off the Monday morning headlines? A Mueller firing perhaps? They are definitely going to do something big.

[Zonkerbl]

FAKE NEWS IS NOT NEWS YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH

FAKE NEWS IS LITERALLY FAKE, AS IN FACTUALLY INCORRECT, INVENTED, LIES.

Remember when Breitbart deliberately re-edited Shirley Sherrod's video to make it look like she was saying racist things when in fact she was not, and then published that on their website as if it was real, and then bragged about how effectively they had fooled people afterwards?

THAT IS FAKE NEWS.

How did we become so stupid?

[Ruzious]

FAKE NEWS IS NOT NEWS YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH

FAKE NEWS IS LITERALLY FAKE, AS IN FACTUALLY INCORRECT, INVENTED, LIES.

Remember when Breitbart deliberately re-edited Shirley Sherrod's video to make it look like she was saying racist things when in fact she was not, and then published that on their website as if it was real, and then bragged about how effectively they had fooled people afterwards?

THAT IS FAKE NEWS.

How did we become so stupid?

That times a million. After that, anyone who still works there that tunes into our discussions here... you're a piece of fertilizer.