Potential sleepers

jmnvcavs · Post #1341 » by **jmnvcavs** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:34 am

doordoor123 wrote:It’s crazy to me that Charles Matthews (who fixed his shot), Caleb & Cody Martin and Donte Grantham could go Undrafted. All four are NBA players.

Cody and Caleb are juniors I follow Nevada basketball and They already stated they want to play another year together because this is likely their last year to play together. I highly doubt they declare they might test but they won’t hire agents

clyde21 · Post #1342 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:18 am

With a name like Clayton Custer there's no way this guy doesn't end up in the NBA.

doordoor123 · Post #1343 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:30 pm

clyde21 wrote:With a name like Clayton Custer there's no way this guy doesn't end up in the NBA.

He reminds of Alex Caruso on the Lakers.

Post #1344 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:12 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
I’ve heard some scouts see him as a first round pick. Wagner is looking really good. Still doesn’t play good defense, but he’s a legit scorer.

He does play defense the right way but is certainly no rim protector. The overall bb iq along with the offensive skills make him a first round lock imo. And a late lottery sleeper despite being more likely taken early 20s

He physically can’t slide and doesn’t track defenders well. Not a defender at all and also kind of soft on defense. There is no way he’s worth a lottery pick or even a pick in the teens. If he’s picked there it’s either a bad pick or a super safe pick for depth.

Can you explain the soft comment? I've seen him several games this season and don't see that at all. If anything, he's been overly physical and aggressive, imo. Certainly the effort's been there.

doordoor123 · Post #1345 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:57 pm

Ruzious wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:He does play defense the right way but is certainly no rim protector. The overall bb iq along with the offensive skills make him a first round lock imo. And a late lottery sleeper despite being more likely taken early 20s

He physically can’t slide and doesn’t track defenders well. Not a defender at all and also kind of soft on defense. There is no way he’s worth a lottery pick or even a pick in the teens. If he’s picked there it’s either a bad pick or a super safe pick for depth.

Can you explain the soft comment? I've seen him several games this season and don't see that at all. If anything, he's been overly physical and aggressive, imo. Certainly the effort's been there.

Soft in the sense that bigger guys or more athletic guys score over him easily.

Stillwater · Post #1346 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:16 pm

Ruzious wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:He does play defense the right way but is certainly no rim protector. The overall bb iq along with the offensive skills make him a first round lock imo. And a late lottery sleeper despite being more likely taken early 20s

He physically can’t slide and doesn’t track defenders well. Not a defender at all and also kind of soft on defense. There is no way he’s worth a lottery pick or even a pick in the teens. If he’s picked there it’s either a bad pick or a super safe pick for depth.

Can you explain the soft comment? I've seen him several games this season and don't see that at all. If anything, he's been overly physical and aggressive, imo. Certainly the effort's been there.

yep not soft by any means as it pertains to physicality or mentality. he certainly aint no wuss. defense certainly isn't his strong suit however.

Upperclass · Post #1347 » by **Upperclass** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:52 pm

moritz reminds me of Josh Mcroberts. I think he'll be good enough to spot start and be in the rotation

JamesConway · Post #1348 » by **JamesConway** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:11 pm

Where do you guys think Aaron Holiday will end up getting drafted?

vincecarter4pres · Post #1349 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:35 pm

I doubt he enters this draft, but Xavier Sneed has the look of an NBA player. Maybe a mid second rounder, or an undrafted free agent, but I can see him having a long career as a rotation 3 and D player if he keeps working on his J.

Pinkyring · Post #1350 » by **Pinkyring** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:45 pm

doordoor123 wrote:By the way, Robert Williams has been playing like a top 10 pick. He has elite athleticism and is finally playing like he’s really good. His vertical is pretty insane and he has incredible shot blocking instincts. He’s even defending the wing well. To me he should be ahead of Bamba. He fits the modern game better.

He's small and has no offensive skill very similar to a guy like jarvis varnardo imo

doordoor123 · Post #1351 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:07 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:By the way, Robert Williams has been playing like a top 10 pick. He has elite athleticism and is finally playing like he’s really good. His vertical is pretty insane and he has incredible shot blocking instincts. He’s even defending the wing well. To me he should be ahead of Bamba. He fits the modern game better.

He's small and has no offensive skill very similar to a guy like jarvis varnardo imo

He makes up for his height with his athletic ability, long arms and strength. This guy is huge. He’s like the same size as Dwight Howard. His athletic ability is really good and only superstars have been able to jump like this guy. He looks like a Monstar.

Stillwater · Post #1352 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:42 pm

Williams is a top 5 athlete in this draft and the 7'6" ws despite being 6'9" makes him more than just another t-robb for sure. Any team missing out on the more versatile 2way bigs early will definitely take a look as a center in the modern NBA despite having very little offense outside of 5 feet.
I figure he ends up on clippers

doordoor123 · Post #1353 » by **doordoor123** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:51 am

Stillwater wrote:Williams is a top 5 athlete in this draft and the 7'6" ws despite being 6'9" makes him more than just another t-robb for sure. Any team missing out on the more versatile 2way bigs early will definitely take a look as a center in the modern NBA despite having very little offense outside of 5 feet.
I figure he ends up on clippers

He’s also a pretty good wing defender.

Upperclass · Post #1354 » by **Upperclass** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:29 am

Pinkyring wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:By the way, Robert Williams has been playing like a top 10 pick. He has elite athleticism and is finally playing like he’s really good. His vertical is pretty insane and he has incredible shot blocking instincts. He’s even defending the wing well. To me he should be ahead of Bamba. He fits the modern game better.

He's small and has no offensive skill very similar to a guy like jarvis varnardo imo

The only reason Varnado wasnt a NBAer is because of his size.. Williams is a collegian with 20 pounds on Varnado. He also plays with more force. Different prospects.

nolang1 · Post #1355 » by **nolang1** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:58 am

Whenever I watch Jalen Brunson I always wonder why he isn't considered the pace-and-space equivalent of Andre Miller. He just does a bunch of weird stuff and really gets it done at a high level.

Zukkoyaki · Post #1356 » by **Zukkoyaki** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:16 am

I like Angel Delgado out of Seton Hall. Not very quick, not a great athlete but he's very skilled, a great finisher and a ferocious rebounder. Plays and positions himself very well. I'd liken him to a smarter and more skilled, but arguably less physically gifted, Jarell Martin.

bootsythornton · Post #1357 » by **bootsythornton** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:23 am

Brunson will be an NBA player. Looks like a Spurs 2nd round steal.

Stillwater · Post #1358 » by **Stillwater** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:33 pm

Few players on teams still left in the tournament can be considered sleepers / can we say potential steal yes... sleeper no.
Okogie is definitely being slept on outta Georgia State imo

Post #1359 » by **GimmeDat** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:12 pm

Stillwater wrote:Few players on teams still left in the tournament can be considered sleepers / can we say potential steal yes... sleeper no.
Okogie is definitely being slept on outta Georgia State imo

He's very solid.

Stillwater · Post #1360 » by **Stillwater** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:39 pm

We'll take any player from Loyola Chicago as a walk on to tc , holy **** these kids are solid as a unit.