Post game: A good win in a bad season

[god shammgod]

oh well

yep. never expected to move up anyway. we'll likely move back. we are the knicks after all.

[Fury]

If you told me at the beginning of the year we’d find out starting PG in Trey Burke I’d be hahaha nah son but dude proved me wrong can’t front. We set

Changing your mind on a player and showing acknowledgment, eh?

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

It was sarcasm dumb ****, keep reading the follow up posts

[god shammgod]

spicy in here

[K_ick_God]

Just give Jordan Hill time
Just give Iman Shumpert time
Just give Danilo Gallinari time
Just give Channing Frye time
Just give David Lee time
Just give Nate Robinson time

You know every single one of those players showed what they can and did become in their rookie year?

-Jordan Hill had a nice midrange jumper and nothing else. What did he show later in his career?
-Iman Shumpert showed he had no court vision, couldn't break down a defense, but he was athletic, played defense and people was high on tall point guards. What changed?
-David Lee was a rebound machine that can finish at the basket. What changed? He developed a midrange jumper, but never learned to play defense. He got 20/10 off energy which is why we got rid of him for Amare because 20 points off just being active is different than bein able to go get your own basket
-Gallinari was a 6'11 small forward with an awkward dribble that got him to the freethrow line, good passing, and a good jumper. He's still that same player.

Talent is displayed from the beginning, regardless of what the numbers say. Your eyes show you what a player is capable of. Will they become a superstar or role player remains to be seen, but the talent can be viewed from day 1. There is no player in the league that has become a completely different player than what they showed they could be or were before they got into the NBA.

Once again, debate me with facts or get off me.

Frank is showing he’s not a 1 on 1 scorer. But if you think he has shown in any meaningful way that he can’t be anything else, you’re not right. And he may develop a very good offensive game. He’s got nice potential. D and unselfish. You’re looking at the wrong stuff — you are focusing on scoring skill above all else by too much.

Then again Burke is bringing that and it is an element that’s obviously helpful if it doesn’t come in a selfish or dumb package. Burke seems to have an awareness of how to play and best of all, he’s learnt it the hard way through failure. Even better.

So we got Frank and a more mature, healthier scoring guard.

[MP4LIFE]

oh well

yep. never expected to move up anyway. we'll likely move back. we are the knicks after all.

But it’s a good win. Or so the title says.

I expect this momentum to carry over into next season for our playoff push.

[god shammgod]

it's kinda funny that red vines was suspended once for recognizing early that the midget was our best player. it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

but to be honest, i don't buy anyone playing well in the last month of the season when nobody cares about wins. i've seen this movie too many times. it rarely carries over. i'd hold up on the penciling in of anybody for the future.

[matchman]

Historical 9th pick

Year Player School/Country – Team

2017 Dennis Smith Jr., N.C. State – Dallas Mavericks
2016 Jakob Poeltl, Utah – Toronto Raptors
2015 Frank Kaminsky, Wisconsin – Charlotte Hornets
2014 Noah Vonleh, Indiana – Charlotte Hornets
2013 Trey Burke, Michigan – Minnesota Timberwolves
2012 Andre Drummond, Connecticut – Detroit Pistons
2011 Kemba Walker, Connecticut – Charlotte Bobcats
2010 Gordon Hayward, Butler – Utah Jazz

2000’s

2009 DeMar Derozen, USC – Toronto Raptors
2008 D.J. Augustin, Texas – Charlotte Bobcats
2007 Joakim Noah, Florida – Chicago Bulls
2006 Patrick O’Bryant, Bradley – Golden State Warriors
2005 Ike Diogu, Arizona State – Golden State Warriors
2004 Andre Iguodala, Arizona – Philadelphia 76ers
2003 Mike Sweetney, Georgetown – New York Knicks
2002 Amare Stoudemire, Cypress Creek HS (Fla.) – Phoenix Suns
2001 Rodney White, UNC-Charlotte – Detroit Pistons
2000 Joel Przybilla, Minnesota – Houston Rockets

1990’s

1999 Shawn Marion, UNLV – Phoenix Suns
1998 Dirk Nowitzki, Germany – Milwaukee Bucks
1997 Tracy McGrady, Mount Zion Christian Academy (N.C.) – Toronto Raptors
1996 Samaki Walker, Louisville – Dallas Mavericks
1995 Ed O’Bannon, UCLA – New Jersey Nets
1994 Eric Montross, North Carolina – Boston Celtics
1993 Rodney Rogers, Wake Forest – Denver Nuggets
1992 Clarence Weatherspoon, Southern Mississippi – Philadelphia 76ers
1991 Stacey Augmon, UNLV – Atlanta Hawks
1990 Willie Burton, Minnesota – Miami HEAT


Not a bad list actually

[Dantares]

it's kinda funny that red vines was suspended once for recognizing early that the midget was our best player. it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

but to be honest, i don't buy anyone playing well in the last month of the season when nobody cares about wins. i've seen this movie too many times. it rarely carries over. i'd hold up on the penciling in of anybody for the future.

I disagree. I think it depends on how young a team is and how much potential said players have for improvement. Young teams that finish the season strong often make the playoffs the next year. See Miami last year who had a horrible start to the season but finished with around 35 wins last season and will make the playoffs this year. Look at the Lakers this year, another horrible start but they are closing the season strong and I do believe they will make the playoffs next season. Knicks are relatively young, the only 2 rotation players over 25 yrs old that play more than 20mpg are Beas and Lee. Beas will only hit the over 20 minute mark because Porzingis got hurt.

Closing the season strong could be good for this team going forward.

[god shammgod]

it's kinda funny that red vines was suspended once for recognizing early that the midget was our best player. it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

but to be honest, i don't buy anyone playing well in the last month of the season when nobody cares about wins. i've seen this movie too many times. it rarely carries over. i'd hold up on the penciling in of anybody for the future.

I disagree. I think it depends on how young a team is and how much potential said players have for improvement. Young teams that finish the season strong often make the playoffs the next year. See Miami last year who had a horrible start to the season but finished with around 35 wins last season and will make the playoffs this year. Look at the Lakers this year, another horrible start but they are closing the season strong and I do believe they will make the playoffs next season. Knicks are relatively young, the only 2 rotation players over 25 yrs old that play more than 20mpg are Beas and Lee. Beas will only hit the over 20 minute mark because Porzingis got hurt.

Closing the season strong could be good for this team going forward.

i don't think a record of like 3-12 in the last month is finishing strong exactly. but to each their own.

[2010]

Mudiay played pretty well from what I saw. 11 pts 6 reb and 7 ast with 0 TO. Pretty solid

Exactly, but it's not the kewl thing to say, so...

[Phish Tank]

it's kinda funny that red vines was suspended once for recognizing early that the midget was our best player. it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

but to be honest, i don't buy anyone playing well in the last month of the season when nobody cares about wins. i've seen this movie too many times. it rarely carries over. i'd hold up on the penciling in of anybody for the future.

Free Willy got on an all-rookie team after playing well the last two months of last year...... and we know what happened next.

[2010]

If you told me at the beginning of the year we’d find out starting PG in Trey Burke I’d be hahaha nah son but dude proved me wrong can’t front. We set

Changing your mind on a player and showing acknowledgment, eh?

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

It was sarcasm dumb ****, keep reading the follow up posts

That whore you call a mother is the dumb schit for not aborting you.

[Phish Tank]

the midget's long 2 FG% has to regress to the mean sooner than later....

[god shammgod]

Changing your mind on a player and showing acknowledgment, eh?

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

It was sarcasm dumb ****, keep reading the follow up posts

That whore you call a mother is the dumb schit for not aborting you.

jesus

[Dantares]

it's kinda funny that red vines was suspended once for recognizing early that the midget was our best player. it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

but to be honest, i don't buy anyone playing well in the last month of the season when nobody cares about wins. i've seen this movie too many times. it rarely carries over. i'd hold up on the penciling in of anybody for the future.

I disagree. I think it depends on how young a team is and how much potential said players have for improvement. Young teams that finish the season strong often make the playoffs the next year. See Miami last year who had a horrible start to the season but finished with around 35 wins last season and will make the playoffs this year. Look at the Lakers this year, another horrible start but they are closing the season strong and I do believe they will make the playoffs next season. Knicks are relatively young, the only 2 rotation players over 25 yrs old that play more than 20mpg are Beas and Lee. Beas will only hit the over 20 minute mark because Porzingis got hurt.

Closing the season strong could be good for this team going forward.

i don't think a record of like 3-12 in the last month is finishing strong exactly. but to each their own.

well I am talking about Burke unleashed/Mudiay relegated to bench last 10 games of the season. If we finish the season strong I am crazy enough of a knicks fan to rationalize that Mudiay was the problem and our record post all-star break would have been much better had Burke been playing starter minutes. but if Burke stinks and is another flash in the pan then ok this team doesn;t even have a glimmer of hope for next year.

[2010]

Now I'll just sit here till MP4 make another cornball post about how he is a simp who got fked and left

Hope off my wood and gain a more positive outlook instead of stanning me and riding whoever I'm having words wit and maybe you can keep a chick.

[MP4LIFE]

it's kinda funny that red vines was suspended once for recognizing early that the midget was our best player. it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

but to be honest, i don't buy anyone playing well in the last month of the season when nobody cares about wins. i've seen this movie too many times. it rarely carries over. i'd hold up on the penciling in of anybody for the future.

To paraphrase a wise man, Trey Burke ain’t ****.

[N Y K]

Changing your mind on a player and showing acknowledgment, eh?

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

It was sarcasm dumb ****, keep reading the follow up posts

That whore you call a mother is the dumb schit for not aborting you.

[god shammgod]

[N Y K]

it's kinda funny that red vines was suspended once for recognizing early that the midget was our best player. it doesn't pay to be an early adopter.

but to be honest, i don't buy anyone playing well in the last month of the season when nobody cares about wins. i've seen this movie too many times. it rarely carries over. i'd hold up on the penciling in of anybody for the future.

goddamn he got suspended again...?