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[Prokorov]

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anyone watching the Stormy Daniels interview on 60 minutes?

nah. anything good or reprehensible being revealed or is it all the stuff that was said before?

Re: Black American gun ownership. I'm all for it. I'm also pro assault rifle bans and stringent background checks.

I guarantee you if the rate of Black gun ownership triples within the next 2 years and it becomes widely known, the same ass holes who want to mock and threaten children over the 2A will be singing a different tune about easy access to guns because right now for some reason, these NRA loons for some really odd reason don't think that non whites(and liberal whites) don't own guns Gun laws in America also has a lot to do with America's racist past. If you see black gun ownership rise to levels where these loons get scared, things will change.

That being said, if this also has something to do with what rapper Killer Mike said the other day, I think he's an idiot. No one needs assault rifles, and we need to stop making it easy for guns to be purchased in one state and then transported to another. As much as we want to prevent school shootings and mass shootings in public places, getting the guns off of the streets in urban areas should be dealt with as well. The kids who are marching and walking out in protest are 100% right. Thankfully a lot of them will be turning 18 before November. The GOP is doing irreparable damage to their party's survival over the next 10 years. People won't forget this.

Yup... the second a bunch of minotirites/black people starting owning guns at an increased rate we will see a response in legistlation. the problem is that legislation is sure to be racist as targeting as well.

and my bigger fear is black + open carry license = open season for cops to kill more black people in cold blood.

[MrDollarBills]

^your fears are correct. If black people began open carrying in the manner we are seeing NRA gun nuts doing, the police will kill them.

Psychologically this stuff is exhausting. I was in 7-11 the other night and a cop walks in an I automatically became nervous even though I had no reason to be. It's just the anxiety over thinking "hey is this dude cool or is he looking to take his rage out on someone?". You just never know.

[MrDollarBills]

Great 60 minutes episode. I’m happy that they followed up all of the nasty Trump details with a feel good story about the future best player in the NBA. It was definitely needed.

"You know, you remind me of my daughter"

[shakendfries]

Great 60 minutes episode. I’m happy that they followed up all of the nasty Trump details with a feel good story about the future best player in the NBA. It was definitely needed.

"You know, you remind me of my daughter"

[shakendfries]

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what do you think happens first, the rockets winning a ring or 45's resignation?

[MrDollarBills]

I think he's scared to resign.

This guy now has state and federal investigators up his ass. He's not clean. Once his presidency ends, so does his freedom.

in my humble opinion

[shakendfries]

Great 60 minutes episode. I’m happy that they followed up all of the nasty Trump details with a feel good story about the future best player in the NBA. It was definitely needed.

"You know, you remind me of my daughter"

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[MrDollarBills]

This is just conjecture, but I would not be surprised if Trump sexually abused his daughter at some point while she was growing up. I would hope not because that **** causes a lifetime of hell.

the comments that he's made about her make me feel sorry for her, even though I think she's a criminal like he is. No father should ever talk about their daughter or view her in that manner. It's beyond vile.

[bud29]

what do you think happens first, the rockets winning a ring or 45's resignation?

There's a school of thought that says Trump doesn't really enjoy being president, so once he realizes he's in deep sh*t with Mueller, he'll resign - citing "victory over the swamp" or something like that. I don't buy it at all. First, he'd have to actually realize that he's in over his head, which he is way too arrogant to ever do. Plus, I don't think he really hates being president. Sure, he hates the actual work involved, so he's remedied that by just working very little. Those presidential daily schedules that get sent to the press are hilarious - I have a heavier workload than the president most days. He's as famous as ever though, constantly on TV, and he lives for that stuff. No way he just walks away from it IMO - he's going to have to be dragged away kicking and screaming.

[bud29]

And speaking of being in deep with Mueller: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/26/rick-gates-mueller-trump-484739

When Rick Gates struck a plea deal last month with special counsel Robert Mueller, the 45-year-old former Trump campaign official likely avoided decades behind bars and salvaged a chance to watch his children grow up.

The question is what Gates offered Mueller in return. Though it is a virtual given that Gates will sell out his business partner and Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, less understood is the direct threat Gates could pose to President Donald Trump.

That’s the conclusion of several lawyers involved in the Russia case and more than 15 current and former Trump aides and associates interviewed by POLITICO to determine how much danger Gates’ guilty plea could pose to the president and his inner circle, and how alarmed they might be by his testimony.

While Gates now wears a GPS monitor around his ankle, in 2016 he wore a Secret Service lapel pin that gave him easy access to Trump on the campaign trail and at Trump Tower.

“He saw everything,” said a Republican consultant who worked with Gates during the campaign. The consultant called Gates one of the “top five” insiders whom Mueller could have tapped as a cooperative government witness. One defense attorney in the case said Gates’ plea has triggered palpable alarm in Trump world.

Manafort may have struck a larger public profile, but Gates spent more time in Trump’s orbit. Manafort left the Trump campaign under a cloud of scandal in mid-August 2016. Gates, his right-hand man, stayed on through the election before assisting the Trump inauguration and Trump’s early presidency.

Worst of all for the White House, Gates lacks hard-wired loyalty. He is not family, like Trump’s oldest son, Donald Trump Jr., or his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Nor is he among true Trump believers like Corey Lewandowski and Brad Parscale.

“Let’s be honest, Don Jr. is not ratting out his dad. Gates is different,” said Paul Rosenzweig, who served as a senior counsel to Whitewater independent counsel Ken Starr.
...

[bud29]

Also...do not be shocked if within the coming days, or months, that this Guccifer crap comes back to slap Bernie Sanders on his ass.

I was a supporter of Bernie in the Dem primaries versus Hillary (i voted for her in the general election because i'm a sane adult). I have no shame in admitting it. But I think Bernie is suspect. and i think there will be things that come to light that will not be favorable to Sanders. he's going to get caught up in this Russia stuff. the GRU/FSB/Russian intelligence trolls were working overtime for Bernie during the DNC leaks/DNC convention.

They were absolutely pro-Sanders. Whether or not Bernie was actually complicit in that is another story, though - I highly doubt that he was, but I'll certainly accept whatever the special counsel finds. I'm thinking that the pro-Sanders stuff during the primary was mostly just to drum up opposition to Hillary, a very anti-Russia candidate and the likely opponent to their puppet in the general election.

Personally, I don't think Sanders entered the race planning to win (or to even get close). I think he just wanted to be a message candidate who pushed Hillary left, since there was nobody else in the Democratic field to do it. Seems unlikely then that he would conspire with a foreign adversary to try and steal the nomination from her. But I guess we'll see.

[MrDollarBills]

what do you think happens first, the rockets winning a ring or 45's resignation?

There's a school of thought that says Trump doesn't really enjoy being president, so once he realizes he's in deep sh*t with Mueller, he'll resign - citing "victory over the swamp" or something like that. I don't buy it at all. First, he'd have to actually realize that he's in over his head, which he is way too arrogant to ever do. Plus, I don't think he really hates being president. Sure, he hates the actual work involved, so he's remedied that by just working very little. Those presidential daily schedules that get sent to the press are hilarious - I have a heavier workload than the president most days. He's as famous as ever though, constantly on TV, and he lives for that stuff. No way he just walks away from it IMO - he's going to have to be dragged away kicking and screaming.

word. His day starts at 11am (after he rage tweets at 5am) and ends at 12:30. then it's golf time to the tune of 3 million dollars.

[MrDollarBills]

And speaking of being in deep with Mueller: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/26/rick-gates-mueller-trump-484739

When Rick Gates struck a plea deal last month with special counsel Robert Mueller, the 45-year-old former Trump campaign official likely avoided decades behind bars and salvaged a chance to watch his children grow up.

The question is what Gates offered Mueller in return. Though it is a virtual given that Gates will sell out his business partner and Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, less understood is the direct threat Gates could pose to President Donald Trump.

That’s the conclusion of several lawyers involved in the Russia case and more than 15 current and former Trump aides and associates interviewed by POLITICO to determine how much danger Gates’ guilty plea could pose to the president and his inner circle, and how alarmed they might be by his testimony.

While Gates now wears a GPS monitor around his ankle, in 2016 he wore a Secret Service lapel pin that gave him easy access to Trump on the campaign trail and at Trump Tower.

“He saw everything,” said a Republican consultant who worked with Gates during the campaign. The consultant called Gates one of the “top five” insiders whom Mueller could have tapped as a cooperative government witness. One defense attorney in the case said Gates’ plea has triggered palpable alarm in Trump world.

Manafort may have struck a larger public profile, but Gates spent more time in Trump’s orbit. Manafort left the Trump campaign under a cloud of scandal in mid-August 2016. Gates, his right-hand man, stayed on through the election before assisting the Trump inauguration and Trump’s early presidency.

Worst of all for the White House, Gates lacks hard-wired loyalty. He is not family, like Trump’s oldest son, Donald Trump Jr., or his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Nor is he among true Trump believers like Corey Lewandowski and Brad Parscale.

“Let’s be honest, Don Jr. is not ratting out his dad. Gates is different,” said Paul Rosenzweig, who served as a senior counsel to Whitewater independent counsel Ken Starr.
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Speaking of Gates:

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There are no "former" Russian intelligence agents.

This is also why Gates has been claiming that he's being threatened by the russian mob after flipping: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics/rick-gates-boston-threat/index.html

[MrDollarBills]

Also...do not be shocked if within the coming days, or months, that this Guccifer crap comes back to slap Bernie Sanders on his ass.

I was a supporter of Bernie in the Dem primaries versus Hillary (i voted for her in the general election because i'm a sane adult). I have no shame in admitting it. But I think Bernie is suspect. and i think there will be things that come to light that will not be favorable to Sanders. he's going to get caught up in this Russia stuff. the GRU/FSB/Russian intelligence trolls were working overtime for Bernie during the DNC leaks/DNC convention.

They were absolutely pro-Sanders. Whether or not Bernie was actually complicit in that is another story, though - I highly doubt that he was, but I'll certainly accept whatever the special counsel finds. I'm thinking that the pro-Sanders stuff during the primary was mostly just to drum up opposition to Hillary, a very anti-Russia candidate and the likely opponent to their puppet in the general election.

Personally, I don't think Sanders entered the race planning to win (or to even get close). I think he just wanted to be a message candidate who pushed Hillary left, since there was nobody else in the Democratic field to do it. Seems unlikely then that he would conspire with a foreign adversary to try and steal the nomination from her. But I guess we'll see.

I would hope that Sanders was not an active participant as well.

[MrDollarBills]

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Interesting. If this is all a "WITCH HUNT!", "HOAX!" and there was "NO COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA!! IT WAS THE DEMS AND HILLARY!!!", why would they be worried about what they would reveal?

No wonder Dowd quit. He knows how this will end and in the process he may end up in being called down for a cup of coffee and a few hours of small talk with Mueller's team based on these discussions about wanting to obstruct justice. dumbass.

it's a blessing in disguise that these dudes are all idiots.

[Roy Tarpley]

Someone, maybe Bob Woodward, must be cataloging all of this for a book -- this is turning out to be the biggest scandal in U.S. history, worse than Watergate. There are huge book royalties and movie rights ahead.

When does all this come crashing down? This summer? Fall? Before the election? After the election? Next year?

Who else can Mueller turn? At this point, the only players left are Trump and his family. I guess Trump has offered to speak with Mueller's team directly.

Someone give me a potential timeline!

[MrDollarBills]

I'd say either when Paul Manafort decides not to die in jail on behalf of Donald Trump, and or when Jared Kushner gets indicted, that's the beginning of the end. He will attempt to fire Robert Mueller for sure, that's why he's surrounding himself with nutjobs and sycophants so no one will attempt to talk him out of it.

[bud29]

Someone, maybe Bob Woodward, must be cataloging all of this for a book -- this is turning out to be the biggest scandal in U.S. history, worse than Watergate. There are huge book royalties and movie rights ahead.

When does all this come crashing down? This summer? Fall? Before the election? After the election? Next year?

Who else can Mueller turn? At this point, the only players left are Trump and his family. I guess Trump has offered to speak with Mueller's team directly.

Someone give me a potential timeline!

I don't think we see a report recommending charges against Trump until at least 2019. The special counsel has honestly been working at breakneck speed compared to other investigations, but these things still just take a lot of time. The probe into whether or not Bill Clinton got a BJ took four years. This thing has a lot of different tentacles, a lot of different money trails, and could implicate a lot of different people. It'll take a really long time to get it all unraveled.

Now, things could hit the fan a lot faster if Trump decides to fire Mueller, and good luck predicting Trump's behavior. Could happen any day, or not happen at all. I think he'll try to do it, either after a family member gets indicted or after he sits down to an interview and realizes how much **** they have on him.

[bud29]

I'd say either when Paul Manafort decides not to die in jail on behalf of Donald Trump, and or when Jared Kushner gets indicted, that's the beginning of the end. He will attempt to fire Robert Mueller for sure, that's why he's surrounding himself with nutjobs and sycophants so no one will attempt to talk him out of it.

Manafort is gonna fight this one out. I think he's more scared of Putin than Mueller, and after watching the nerve agent attack in Britain unfold, you can kinda see why. I'm guessing he's banking on some pardons as well.

[MrDollarBills]

I understand the fear of Putin/Russian mob, but they should threaten to extradite him to Ukraine, where he'll be butchered like a cow carcass. Basically he really has no escape. Cooperate, and die. Refuse to cooperate, die in jail or be sent to Ukraine where he will definitely die. Sucks for him, should have thought twice about being a criminal traitor lol.

Manafort will not get away on pardons by the way. This is being done in coordination with state attorney generals. State charges can't be pardoned.

I also don't think Mueller needs Manafort to flip since Gates and Flynn already have, but Manafort will be the icing on the cake since he's the dirtiest out of them all.