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The Ben Simmons Megathread

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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1961 » by eyeatoma » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:54 pm

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downtownpie wrote:Ben is a product of playing team sports in Australia where the team is more important than the individual. Where sharing the ball and finding a teammate in a better position is the priority.

People who say he should shoot more dont understand him.


Sorry, can't really make excuses for that... His lack of shooting, is resulting in Embiid jacking up threes and lowering his efficiency. Our most potent scorer shouldn't be minimized by someone who can't shoot.

Simmons without a jumper, borderline all-star... With a jumper, MVP talent... It's a big if though...

Embiids 3 Point Attempt Rate has actually decreased from.228 last season to .204 this season.

If your main point was that Simmons needs a jumper to really take the step to MVP contention....sure. But let's not act like Embiid's not gona jack up his share of 3's, regardless of Simmons.


Quote stats as much as you want. Brown has literally said he wants Embiid shooting 6-8 3 pointers a game. You can see a change in the last 10 games or so. Embiid is constantly at the 3 point line, and Simmons is posting up... He's getting more triple-doubles. You know why? Because he's closer to the basket and can grab more rebounds...

Embiid is jacking up 3's because Brown wants it to happen. Not for any other reason. He shouldn't take more than 3 a game...
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1962 » by Cheatergriffin » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:35 am

Plain and simple, is Ben already a top 15-20 player in the league? He is on another level right now.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1963 » by Ericb5 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:56 am

Cheatergriffin wrote:Plain and simple, is Ben already a top 15-20 player in the league? He is on another level right now.


I was saying at the all star break, when he was up for consideration, that he didn’t deserve to be an all star yet. Since then he has been an all star.

He is probably going to start in the game next year with Embiid, and will make it very healthy season afterwards until he declines with age.


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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1964 » by 76ciology » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:21 am

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TTP wrote:Ben was in my PUBG game today. Saw him lighting up the kill feed early but he died before I ran into him.

PUBG PC or Mobile?


PC

He plays fairly often and is decent. I remember hearing that he wanted to be a Call of Duty pro if not for basketball.


Yeah read it before that he was a gamer since he was a kid. Probably why he acts reserved...

...and very good instinct and hand and eye coordination lol

Anyway been trying to play PUBG on mobile after your post lol got me curious
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1965 » by BoomBap » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:21 am

Ben will be the first player ever to average a TD over his entire playoff career. He is a monster!
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1966 » by sixers hoops » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:37 pm

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Sorry, can't really make excuses for that... His lack of shooting, is resulting in Embiid jacking up threes and lowering his efficiency. Our most potent scorer shouldn't be minimized by someone who can't shoot.

Simmons without a jumper, borderline all-star... With a jumper, MVP talent... It's a big if though...

Embiids 3 Point Attempt Rate has actually decreased from.228 last season to .204 this season.

If your main point was that Simmons needs a jumper to really take the step to MVP contention....sure. But let's not act like Embiid's not gona jack up his share of 3's, regardless of Simmons.


Quote stats as much as you want. Brown has literally said he wants Embiid shooting 6-8 3 pointers a game. You can see a change in the last 10 games or so. Embiid is constantly at the 3 point line, and Simmons is posting up... He's getting more triple-doubles. You know why? Because he's closer to the basket and can grab more rebounds...

Embiid is jacking up 3's because Brown wants it to happen. Not for any other reason. He shouldn't take more than 3 a game...


I never heard Brown say that. It sounds like a horrible idea though.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1967 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:04 pm

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Re: RE: Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1968 » by eyeatoma » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:52 pm

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marcush wrote:Embiids 3 Point Attempt Rate has actually decreased from.228 last season to .204 this season.

If your main point was that Simmons needs a jumper to really take the step to MVP contention....sure. But let's not act like Embiid's not gona jack up his share of 3's, regardless of Simmons.


Quote stats as much as you want. Brown has literally said he wants Embiid shooting 6-8 3 pointers a game. You can see a change in the last 10 games or so. Embiid is constantly at the 3 point line, and Simmons is posting up... He's getting more triple-doubles. You know why? Because he's closer to the basket and can grab more rebounds...

Embiid is jacking up 3's because Brown wants it to happen. Not for any other reason. He shouldn't take more than 3 a game...


I never heard Brown say that. It sounds like a horrible idea though.
Yup he most definitely did. I posted an article about it few days ago in the Embiid or Simmons thread.

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Re: RE: Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1969 » by sixers hoops » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:00 pm

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Quote stats as much as you want. Brown has literally said he wants Embiid shooting 6-8 3 pointers a game. You can see a change in the last 10 games or so. Embiid is constantly at the 3 point line, and Simmons is posting up... He's getting more triple-doubles. You know why? Because he's closer to the basket and can grab more rebounds...

Embiid is jacking up 3's because Brown wants it to happen. Not for any other reason. He shouldn't take more than 3 a game...


I never heard Brown say that. It sounds like a horrible idea though.
Yup he most definitely did. I posted an article about it few days ago in the Embiid or Simmons thread.

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You would think he would want Jo’s offense being dictated by the matchup. Shooting threes for the heck of it is a horrible idea, unless he wants Jojo to stretch the floor for himself. Hes the coach and knows more than me though.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1970 » by Sixerscan » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:05 pm

Well, he hasn't actually been shooting them that much even after Brett said that. Surely if Brown wanted to design the offense to get Joel more 3s at the expense of all those mid rangers he takes, he could do so. I assume there was some sort of head game going on there.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1971 » by Wilfried » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:35 am

Ben Simmons has a 4.5/1 ass/TO ratio in his last 9 games (almost 11 assists per game)
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1972 » by nurseryc » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:13 am

Loving what I’m seeing from Simmons of late with his passing and rebs. I think the team is unbelievablely under utilising him in scoring opportunities. He needs to be getting way more looks to score.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1973 » by Simmons25 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:45 am

nurseryc wrote:Loving what I’m seeing from Simmons of late with his passing and rebs. I think the team is unbelievablely under utilising him in scoring opportunities. He needs to be getting way more looks to score.


He has the highest usage rate on our team... he has the ball in his hands more than anyone else.

It's not the team getting him less looks to score... Simmons is not looking to score. I don't mind him playing the way he has the last few games because he is getting guys open looks and feeding them. He doesn't need to score.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1974 » by Wilfried » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:05 am

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nurseryc wrote:Loving what I’m seeing from Simmons of late with his passing and rebs. I think the team is unbelievablely under utilising him in scoring opportunities. He needs to be getting way more looks to score.


He has the highest usage rate on our team... he has the ball in his hands more than anyone else.

It's not the team getting him less looks to score... Simmons is not looking to score. I don't mind him playing the way he has the last few games because he is getting guys open looks and feeding them. He doesn't need to score.


He has this Jason Kidd/Magic Johnson-like talent to impact games so hard without needing to score.

Very unique and very good too, because we seem to have a lot of scorers now on this team (with Fultz now also in the mix)
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1975 » by nurseryc » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:34 am

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nurseryc wrote:Loving what I’m seeing from Simmons of late with his passing and rebs. I think the team is unbelievablely under utilising him in scoring opportunities. He needs to be getting way more looks to score.


He has the highest usage rate on our team... he has the ball in his hands more than anyone else.

It's not the team getting him less looks to score... Simmons is not looking to score. I don't mind him playing the way he has the last few games because he is getting guys open looks and feeding them. He doesn't need to score.


I’m not talking about him running the offence and his high usage is nothing to do with my point I’m making. I’m talking about when other players get the ball they aren’t trying to hit an open Simmons to score. Simmons is great at hitting everyone else for easy buckets. Simmons needs the team to also hit him with amazing passes when he’s open so he can utilise his awesome inside scoring ability. Simmons is probably our most unstoppable inside scoring threat when we actually go to him. He’s deadly. Just doesn’t happen enough. He was open under the basket today on a few opportunities for easy baskets that I saw and he was calling for the ball yet we failed to get it to him.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1976 » by ivysixer2000 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:16 pm

nurseryc wrote:
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nurseryc wrote:Loving what I’m seeing from Simmons of late with his passing and rebs. I think the team is unbelievablely under utilising him in scoring opportunities. He needs to be getting way more looks to score.


He has the highest usage rate on our team... he has the ball in his hands more than anyone else.

It's not the team getting him less looks to score... Simmons is not looking to score. I don't mind him playing the way he has the last few games because he is getting guys open looks and feeding them. He doesn't need to score.


I’m not talking about him running the offence and his high usage is nothing to do with my point I’m making. I’m talking about when other players get the ball they aren’t trying to hit an open Simmons to score. Simmons is great at hitting everyone else for easy buckets. Simmons needs the team to also hit him with amazing passes when he’s open so he can utilise his awesome inside scoring ability. Simmons is probably our most unstoppable inside scoring threat when we actually go to him. He’s deadly. Just doesn’t happen enough. He was open under the basket today on a few opportunities for easy baskets that I saw and he was calling for the ball yet we failed to get it to him.


Nah Simmons hasn't developed his post game, he can't establish post position yet. Jojo is still our best threat inside, but its nice to have Ben. If Ben could develop a sky hook without that hesitation (which Jojo should be developing also), then we are talking.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1977 » by 76ers » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:06 pm

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I saw this live and it was absolutely bonkers.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1978 » by bball4life » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:51 pm

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I saw this live and it was absolutely bonkers.


That last view is the one that blows me away the most. You can't even see Saric and yet he threads that pass into about a 2 foot window from 30 feet away on the run exactly to where it needs to be based on Saric's current trajectory. Its just insane.
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The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1979 » by Ericb5 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:28 pm

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I saw this live and it was absolutely bonkers.


That last view is the one that blows me away the most. You can't even see Saric and yet he threads that pass into about a 2 foot window from 30 feet away on the run exactly to where it needs to be based on Saric's current trajectory. Its just insane.


So true.

It isn’t just that he physically can pull off the crazy pass. It’s that he has the vision to actually see it ahead of time. That’s the most impressive part of his gifts.

He can do things that very few basketball players have ever been able to do consistently, and he is 8-12 inches taller than most of the guys that have done it before.

There is Magic and then who else? Big wings and guards with great floor games like Penny, Grant Hill and James Harden don’t have vision on this level. This is Magic level stuff.

Btw, this is a lesson for the rest of the team too. You can see that Saric had to stutter step and speed up to receive the pass. Had he continued at full speed he would have received it in stride and probably laid it in.

People have to get used to Simmons having this ability.

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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1980 » by sixers hoops » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:39 pm

Maybe Fultz can teach Simmons how to forget how to shoot, so we can rebuild his shot too.

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