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Re: RE: Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#501 » by yosemiteben » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:02 am

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yosemiteben wrote:PHI is 1-9 in their last 10, 4 games under .500. That tank is far from validated.


How do you feel about the Sixers now?
That I would never sign up for five **** seasons for the success they've had to date.
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Re: RE: Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#502 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:01 am

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yosemiteben wrote:PHI is 1-9 in their last 10, 4 games under .500. That tank is far from validated.


How do you feel about the Sixers now?
That I would never sign up for five **** seasons for the success they've had to date.


My guy Kemba said “I’ve been there twice in seven years, and it’s just not fun” missing out.

7 - 2 = 5 **** seasons in Charlotte

Philadelphia is on the verge of being the #3 seed in the Eastern Conference if not sealing home court advantage in the 1st round of the playoffs with nothing but room to grow via development, experience, and cap space
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#503 » by yosemiteben » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:02 am

Cool. Ask Kemba how he would've liked tanking for five seasons. He would've never extended.

It's a personal preference for me. I would never, ever support a team intentionally putting a losing product on the floor for 4 to 5 seasons. I'm sorry. It's not in me to support that.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#504 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:19 am

yosemiteben wrote:Cool. Ask Kemba how he would've liked tanking for five seasons. He would've never extended.

It's a personal preference for me. I would never, ever support a team intentionally putting a losing product on the floor for 4 to 5 seasons. I'm sorry. It's not in me to support that.


Come on. The Sixers only did 3 full seasons of tanking from 2013-2016 versus the Bobcats doing 2 full seasons of tanking from 2011-2013

I hate tanking probably as much as you. I only came back and quoted you to see your opinion on our recent success since I remember you not being too sure if the Sixers would even make the playoffs this season amid saying that you don't think the tank was worth it
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#505 » by yosemiteben » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:32 am

Not sure why the 2106-17 season where PHI finished second to last in the East isn't being included, but it's kind of irrelevant because three seasons of trying to suck is too much for me.

I would expect multiple titles if I'm being asked to accept not attempting to have competitive basketball for four consecutive seasons.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#506 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:43 am

yosemiteben wrote:Not sure why the 2106-17 season where PHI finished second to last in the East isn't being included, but it's kind of irrelevant because three seasons of trying to suck is too much for me.

I would expect multiple titles if I'm being asked to accept not attempting to have competitive basketball for four consecutive seasons.


Multiple titles is our goal. This postseason we hope to push for the ECF and next season after that experience we plan to expand into becoming contenders. There's a even greater chance of that happening if LeBron opts to sign with us as well, but even without LeBron I think we'll have a good shot at winning the East next season if the experience pays off and we continue to develop
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#507 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:46 am

All I'm asking is do you like how the Sixers are looking of late since you weren't sold on us being a playoff team this year
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#508 » by yosemiteben » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:52 am

I feel like the tank is far from validated, just like I did before.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#509 » by catch20two » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:05 am

Lol Yosemite might be lowkey jealous of the Sixers. They drafted better than us and didn’t sit on prospects like MCW and Noel although they fumbled the Okafor pick.

They turned MCW into Fultz. They turned the hype of Elfrid Payton on draft day into Saric. I gotta give them credit for having the balls to take Embiid over the hype that was Dante Exum. It’s arguable that had they kept Hinkie they probably would’ve got better trades for Noel and Okafor. Colangelo mishandled both of those.

I’ll be rooting for the Sixers in the East this playoffs even tho I kinda dislike how Simmons and Embiid took shots at Kemba for the ASG. I just like what they’re doing over there and they’re fun to watch.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#510 » by catch20two » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:10 am

In other news Olynyk is better than Cody. I loved Olynyk coming out of that draft. I wish we would’ve traded down instead of reaching for Cody. I like Cody but I knew he’d never amount to much but a role player without any distinctive skills when we drafted him.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#511 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:07 am

I like Philly overall. Not a Colangelo fan, but he made some moves I like. If Fultz can come back real then that's a strong core.

Healthy Cody might have been better than Olynyk, but as is ... yeah.

And to agree a bit with Yosemite, tanking definitely isn't something I really like living through. Not 100% sure it's needed here. I really do think that a change of coaches + a few roster tweaks could be interesting next year. Improved drafting & trading != treadmill either.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#512 » by JDR720 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:22 am

Philly's tank was all about dumping average players that weren't doing anything for them and collecting tons of picks in the process. They still have the lakers pick this season and I would guess still have a good chunk of cap space. They are basically the opposite of where we are.
It looks like at the least they will contend for the ECF for years to come assuming Embiid is healthy.

Personally, i would rather suck butt for a few years with the hope of being great than be a 10th pick-1st round treadmill with no real hope. obviously that might not work, look at orlando but if it does work the payoff is big.


in any other sport im all for playoffs all the time. those sports aren't nearly as dependent on stars as the NBA is. role players in baseball can be just as good as the superstars for a season and NFL stars come out of no where all the time. in the NBA, you either have to sign one (not happening here) or draft one high in the draft.


Tanking is basically a cardinal sin in todays NBA, but all it is is rebuilding by cutting the fat off the roster, acquiring assets and letting those assets play to see which ones you like and trading the ones you dont for more assets. You just keep doing that for a few seasons until you think you have a good group and build from there. Teams have been doing this forever.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#513 » by catch20two » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:54 am

We should be a much better team than we are. I argued against a lot of the stuff that got us in a hole now over the years.

We had 7 lottery picks in as many years and a combined 8 1st rounders if you include the year we traded for Belinelli. Cho just didn’t draft well enough or he didn’t create the atmosphere needed for us to succeed via coaches or both.

That’s without mentioning that we had ample cap space in multiple years. Cho couldn’t manage to sign a reasonable backup PG in several years outside of the 1 year Lin loan and we drafted 3 bigs in the lottery to play PF that were better suited to play C.

I’m happy Cho is gone. I can’t wait for Clifford to be gone too. We could be as good as Toronto is right now but our GM/head coach duo failed.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#514 » by JDR720 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:01 am

^ a lot, or maybe all of that is because the gm, coach and mj all seemed to be on different pages when building the team.

Its why we have such a random, bad fitting squad.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#515 » by catch20two » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:10 am

JDR720 wrote:^ a lot, or maybe all of that is because the gm, coach and mj all seemed to be on different pages when building the team.

Its why we have such a random, bad fitting squad.

Maybe but not necessarily due to being able to stagger lineups we could’ve swapped Dwight with Cody in the starting lineup and/or Batum with Lamb. I thought coming into the season we had a very good 1st and 2nd unit.

There’s nothing perfect about Toronto’s roster when you think about skill sets and fit. They just play the right players at the right times and get the most out of them via strategy and matchups. GSW might be the only perfect team in the league. Every other team has a bevy of players that if you look at on paper probably wouldn’t mesh well because there’s not enough balance between playmaking, spacing, and interior defense.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#516 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:30 am

catch20two wrote:In other news Olynyk is better than Cody. I loved Olynyk coming out of that draft. I wish we would’ve traded down instead of reaching for Cody. I like Cody but I knew he’d never amount to much but a role player without any distinctive skills when we drafted him.


Olynyk is like a hybrid of everything that makes Zeller and Kaminsky good in one player
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#517 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:09 am

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yosemiteben wrote:Not sure why the 2106-17 season where PHI finished second to last in the East isn't being included, but it's kind of irrelevant because three seasons of trying to suck is too much for me.

I would expect multiple titles if I'm being asked to accept not attempting to have competitive basketball for four consecutive seasons.


Multiple titles is our goal. This postseason we hope to push for the ECF and next season after that experience we plan to expand into becoming contenders. There's a even greater chance of that happening if LeBron opts to sign with us as well, but even without LeBron I think we'll have a good shot at winning the East next season if the experience pays off and we continue to develop

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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#518 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:02 am

I told everyone here Celtics would add Horford and Hayward and that they would fly past us, to which someone responded, "We can't base our decisions on what other teams do.". Really, ignore the competition and don't compete with them for free agents? Who the hell was gonna lock up Marvin or Batum?
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#519 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:03 am

Celtics have been nailing draft picks with regularity.
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Re: Around the NBA 10 

Post#520 » by Bassman » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:41 am

Watching my #2 team the Heat tonight on Fox. They have put together a nice group, and Wade brings back that vet punch while providing leadership.
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