Devin Booker

[kennydorglas]

I think Booker's decision will show a lot of his true character tbh
If he really delay his signing to play with better players here, you know he'll be in Phoenix for a VERY LONG TIME.

[Saberestar]

I think Booker's decision will show a lot of his true character tbh
If he really delay his signing to play with better players here, you know he'll be in Phoenix for a VERY LONG TIME.

I want him to sign the extension this summer, I do not want to lose him.

Everything can happen next season. We can be even worse than this season (yeah, remember what we thought about sure improvement this season), and if that happens he probably asks for a trade before the extension, and his value would be low.

If you have him under contract for the next 5 years he can ask for a trade (hopefully not) and you always can get great value for him.

I do not take anything for granted.

[kennydorglas]

I think Booker's decision will show a lot of his true character tbh
If he really delay his signing to play with better players here, you know he'll be in Phoenix for a VERY LONG TIME.

I want him to sign the extension this summer, I do not want to lose him.

Everything can happen next season. We can be even worse than this season (yeah, remember what we thought about sure improvement this season), and if that happens he probably asks for a trade before the extension, and his value would be low.

If you have him under contract for the next 5 years he can ask for a trade (hopefully not) and you always can get great value for him.

I do not take anything for granted.

If Booker really wants to win, he'll do it... If he can go to the Garnett's route, that's fine too.
We have an opportunity to improve this team with very subtle movements... it'll be up to him.

[JMac1]

Booker is signing his contract this offseason. You dont gamble 157 million no matter what. Him not signing until next year doesn’t make him a team player, it makes him a damn fool.

[cberry78]

I think Booker's decision will show a lot of his true character tbh
If he really delay his signing to play with better players here, you know he'll be in Phoenix for a VERY LONG TIME.

I want him to sign the extension this summer, I do not want to lose him.

Everything can happen next season. We can be even worse than this season (yeah, remember what we thought about sure improvement this season), and if that happens he probably asks for a trade before the extension, and his value would be low.

If you have him under contract for the next 5 years he can ask for a trade (hopefully not) and you always can get great value for him.

I do not take anything for granted.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong on so many levels. First, Booker is a restricted free agent coming off his rookie deal, and we have the right to match any offer IF it were ever to get to that point. And if he demanded a trade a year after the team spent in free agency to put better players around him for the long term (the only reason he wouldn't sign an extension this off season) then it would put him in a negative light across the league to other GM's and players.

Second, the bolded. I'll just leave this here: http://bkref.com/tiny/hzjZX

[Mulhollanddrive]

He's smart and using leverage to get better players but he'll ultimately sign the max regardless.

[Bogyo]

Booker is signing his contract this offseason. You dont gamble 157 million no matter what. Him not signing until next year doesn’t make him a team player, it makes him a damn fool.

I'd agree with this 99,9% of the times. The exception being is if I play competitive sports and know 2 things:
1) Delaying the 157 million by one year could significantly add to my lifetime earnings by being on a contender who gets (inter)nationally followed, and gets a lot more fame, ads, money.
2) Knowing that no matter how serious injury happens to me I get that 100+ million contract.

So basically Booker would have to bet about 20-50 mill against 2-300 mill on his health for one year and FO's ability to attract an other star.

I think both of these are true in this case. So we actually have a tiny chance I believe. I m not counting on it, I wouldn't bet on it, but I think we have a chance.

[Saberestar]

I think Booker's decision will show a lot of his true character tbh
If he really delay his signing to play with better players here, you know he'll be in Phoenix for a VERY LONG TIME.

I want him to sign the extension this summer, I do not want to lose him.

Everything can happen next season. We can be even worse than this season (yeah, remember what we thought about sure improvement this season), and if that happens he probably asks for a trade before the extension, and his value would be low.

If you have him under contract for the next 5 years he can ask for a trade (hopefully not) and you always can get great value for him.

I do not take anything for granted.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong on so many levels. First, Booker is a restricted free agent coming off his rookie deal, and we have the right to match any offer IF it were ever to get to that point. And if he demanded a trade a year after the team spent in free agency to put better players around him for the long term (the only reason he wouldn't sign an extension this off season) then it would put him in a negative light across the league to other GM's and players.

Second, the bolded. I'll just leave this here: http://bkref.com/tiny/hzjZX

We need to sign him quickly. We can not wait, because everything can happen in a full year.

He is a RFA, yes. But he is gonna choose if he plays for us or not, it is a free world, remember that.
If he says that he does not want to be here or he does not trust the FO anymore he is gone.Period.

I do not take anything for granted. McDonough says a lot of things, but he usually does not make anything of what he says. He said that we were not shutting down any player this season and we are not playing Chandler for a month. Warren/Booker out for a lot of time too.

He said that we are gonna be agressive in FA/trades this summer...what if Booker believes in him and does not sign the extension this summer and after that McD signs three rookies and just trades for a player like Bazemore?

After a bad start next season (around 5W-15L) Booker would ask for a trade and eveyone around the league would be OK with that decision. He would have a LOW value because he would pick exactly where he wants to play (not the Suns) because he is not under contract and he would threat teams with signing the QO.

[Preacherpj]

Booker should sign his extension this summer, its foolish to risk injury and frankly its foolish to trust the Suns ownership/GM group.

The Suns should sign Booker to the max this summer, its a smart move to reward the only lighthouse this team has had recently.

If McDonough can't put a winning team around him after 4 years and a boatload of high draft picks; that's Mcdonough's fault; not Bookers.

[jcsunsfan]

Booker is signing his contract this offseason. You dont gamble 157 million no matter what. Him not signing until next year doesn’t make him a team player, it makes him a damn fool.

I'd agree with this 99,9% of the times. The exception being is if I play competitive sports and know 2 things:
1) Delaying the 157 million by one year could significantly add to my lifetime earnings by being on a contender who gets (inter)nationally followed, and gets a lot more fame, ads, money.
2) Knowing that no matter how serious injury happens to me I get that 100+ million contract.

So basically Booker would have to bet about 20-50 mill against 2-300 mill on his health for one year and FO's ability to attract an other star.

I think both of these are true in this case. So we actually have a tiny chance I believe. I m not counting on it, I wouldn't bet on it, but I think we have a chance.

Just a note. No one is talking about delaying the actual contract. Rookie extensions all kick in at the same time regardless of when they are signed. Delaying would not cost Booker any money either way and would not save the Suns money either way. All signing the extension now does is prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. If he did become an unrestricted free agent the Suns would still offer the max.

But nba rules count the extension signed against the salary cap for the team BEFORE it actually kicks in. It makes trades REALLY hard too.

If Booker wants a winning team here it is in his best interest to wait. The only thing that could possibly go wrong is some sort of career ending injury and there is insurance for that.


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[JMac1]

Booker is signing his contract this offseason. You dont gamble 157 million no matter what. Him not signing until next year doesn’t make him a team player, it makes him a damn fool.

I'd agree with this 99,9% of the times. The exception being is if I play competitive sports and know 2 things:
1) Delaying the 157 million by one year could significantly add to my lifetime earnings by being on a contender who gets (inter)nationally followed, and gets a lot more fame, ads, money.
2) Knowing that no matter how serious injury happens to me I get that 100+ million contract.

So basically Booker would have to bet about 20-50 mill against 2-300 mill on his health for one year and FO's ability to attract an other star.

I think both of these are true in this case. So we actually have a tiny chance I believe. I m not counting on it, I wouldn't bet on it, but I think we have a chance.

Just a note. No one is talking about delaying the actual contract. Rookie extensions all kick in at the same time regardless of when they are signed. Delaying would not cost Booker any money either way and would not save the Suns money either way. All signing the extension now does is prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. If he did become an unrestricted free agent the Suns would still offer the max.

But nba rules count the extension signed against the salary cap for the team BEFORE it actually kicks in. It makes trades REALLY hard too.

If Booker wants a winning team here it is in his best interest to wait. The only thing that could possibly go wrong is some sort of career ending injury and there is insurance for that.


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If Booker has a career ending injury next year and doesn’t sign his extension this offseason, he doesn’t get paid. He is done. Guaranteed money gone. That’s would be stupid as hell. Only selfish fans want him to hold off on signing his contract. Booker will sign this offseason, as he should and anyone would.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd agree with this 99,9% of the times. The exception being is if I play competitive sports and know 2 things:
1) Delaying the 157 million by one year could significantly add to my lifetime earnings by being on a contender who gets (inter)nationally followed, and gets a lot more fame, ads, money.
2) Knowing that no matter how serious injury happens to me I get that 100+ million contract.

So basically Booker would have to bet about 20-50 mill against 2-300 mill on his health for one year and FO's ability to attract an other star.

I think both of these are true in this case. So we actually have a tiny chance I believe. I m not counting on it, I wouldn't bet on it, but I think we have a chance.

Just a note. No one is talking about delaying the actual contract. Rookie extensions all kick in at the same time regardless of when they are signed. Delaying would not cost Booker any money either way and would not save the Suns money either way. All signing the extension now does is prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. If he did become an unrestricted free agent the Suns would still offer the max.

But nba rules count the extension signed against the salary cap for the team BEFORE it actually kicks in. It makes trades REALLY hard too.

If Booker wants a winning team here it is in his best interest to wait. The only thing that could possibly go wrong is some sort of career ending injury and there is insurance for that.


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If Booker has a career ending injury next year and doesn’t sign his extension this offseason, he doesn’t get paid. He is done. Guaranteed money gone. That’s would be stupid as hell. Only selfish fans want him to hold off on signing his contract. Booker will sign this offseason, as he should and anyone would.

It's really this simple. As I stated in the other thread while the chances of a career ending injury are obviously slim you simply do not gamble with even long odds when dealing with $150M. That is life altering money that sets you and your family up for generations. You don't mess with that kind of thing.

[BobbieL]

Booker should sign his extension this summer, its foolish to risk injury and frankly its foolish to trust the Suns ownership/GM group.

The Suns should sign Booker to the max this summer, its a smart move to reward the only lighthouse this team has had recently.

If McDonough can't put a winning team around him after 4 years and a boatload of high draft picks; that's Mcdonough's fault; not Bookers.

This!

Booker should sign it this summer. Like have said - this is on the Suns Mgmt to build a winner

Booker should get his money as risk of injury is there.

[jcsunsfan]

I'd agree with this 99,9% of the times. The exception being is if I play competitive sports and know 2 things:
1) Delaying the 157 million by one year could significantly add to my lifetime earnings by being on a contender who gets (inter)nationally followed, and gets a lot more fame, ads, money.
2) Knowing that no matter how serious injury happens to me I get that 100+ million contract.

So basically Booker would have to bet about 20-50 mill against 2-300 mill on his health for one year and FO's ability to attract an other star.

I think both of these are true in this case. So we actually have a tiny chance I believe. I m not counting on it, I wouldn't bet on it, but I think we have a chance.

Just a note. No one is talking about delaying the actual contract. Rookie extensions all kick in at the same time regardless of when they are signed. Delaying would not cost Booker any money either way and would not save the Suns money either way. All signing the extension now does is prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. If he did become an unrestricted free agent the Suns would still offer the max.

But nba rules count the extension signed against the salary cap for the team BEFORE it actually kicks in. It makes trades REALLY hard too.

If Booker wants a winning team here it is in his best interest to wait. The only thing that could possibly go wrong is some sort of career ending injury and there is insurance for that.


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If Booker has a career ending injury next year and doesn’t sign his extension this offseason, he doesn’t get paid. He is done. Guaranteed money gone. That’s would be stupid as hell. Only selfish fans want him to hold off on signing his contract. Booker will sign this offseason, as he should and anyone would.

Like I said. There is insurance for this. Insurance policies can be purchased that would pay Booker his ENTIRE contract or more in the event of an injury. Of course the Suns should not ask Devin to take the risk without safeguards.

If I am McD, I lay two contracts in front of Devin. The first is the max contract extension for next summer/fall. The second is the max UFA extension for the summer of 2019. I tell him that his agent can keep the second one in his file and Booker can sign it the first moment he is eligible if he likes. I also lay out an insurance contract in front of him that covers his entire max contract in the event of injury (or death or whatever). Then I tell him he can choose whichever deal he wants and we will move forward from there.


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[JMac1]

Just a note. No one is talking about delaying the actual contract. Rookie extensions all kick in at the same time regardless of when they are signed. Delaying would not cost Booker any money either way and would not save the Suns money either way. All signing the extension now does is prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. If he did become an unrestricted free agent the Suns would still offer the max.

But nba rules count the extension signed against the salary cap for the team BEFORE it actually kicks in. It makes trades REALLY hard too.

If Booker wants a winning team here it is in his best interest to wait. The only thing that could possibly go wrong is some sort of career ending injury and there is insurance for that.


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If Booker has a career ending injury next year and doesn’t sign his extension this offseason, he doesn’t get paid. He is done. Guaranteed money gone. That’s would be stupid as hell. Only selfish fans want him to hold off on signing his contract. Booker will sign this offseason, as he should and anyone would.

Like I said. There is insurance for this. Insurance policies can be purchased that would pay Booker his ENTIRE contract or more in the event of an injury. Of course the Suns should not ask Devin to take the risk without safeguards.

If I am McD, I lay two contracts in front of Devin. The first is the max contract extension for next summer/fall. The second is the max UFA extension for the summer of 2019. I tell him that his agent can keep the second one in his file and Booker can sign it the first moment he is eligible if he likes. I also lay out an insurance contract in front of him that covers his entire max contract in the event of injury (or death or whatever). Then I tell him he can choose whichever deal he wants and we will move forward from there.


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And how much do you think that would cost? Insurance isn’t free.

Would you pay for insurance that you didn’t need? 157 million dollar insurance policy?!? Or just get the money and pay nothing? I know which one I’d take.

[WeekapaugGroove]

If Booker has a career ending injury next year and doesn’t sign his extension this offseason, he doesn’t get paid. He is done. Guaranteed money gone. That’s would be stupid as hell. Only selfish fans want him to hold off on signing his contract. Booker will sign this offseason, as he should and anyone would.

Like I said. There is insurance for this. Insurance policies can be purchased that would pay Booker his ENTIRE contract or more in the event of an injury. Of course the Suns should not ask Devin to take the risk without safeguards.

If I am McD, I lay two contracts in front of Devin. The first is the max contract extension for next summer/fall. The second is the max UFA extension for the summer of 2019. I tell him that his agent can keep the second one in his file and Booker can sign it the first moment he is eligible if he likes. I also lay out an insurance contract in front of him that covers his entire max contract in the event of injury (or death or whatever). Then I tell him he can choose whichever deal he wants and we will move forward from there.


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And how much do you think that would cost? Insurance isn’t free.

Would you pay for insurance that you didn’t need? 157 million dollar insurance policy?!? Or just get the money and pay nothing? I know which one I’d take.

I don't think Booker could find an insurance company that would cover $157M. Hell any underwriter would simply tell him to sign the damn contract. Even if you could the premiums on such a huge coverage would be higher than you might think.

[Revived]

Booker should sign his extension this summer, its foolish to risk injury and frankly its foolish to trust the Suns ownership/GM group.

The Suns should sign Booker to the max this summer, its a smart move to reward the only lighthouse this team has had recently.

If McDonough can't put a winning team around him after 4 years and a boatload of high draft picks; that's Mcdonough's fault; not Bookers.

This!

Booker should sign it this summer. Like have said - this is on the Suns Mgmt to build a winner

Booker should get his money as risk of injury is there.

This is where Ryan McDonough’s reputation hurts him. With the amount of disgruntled players like Bledsoe, Dragic etc plus McDonough being called a “liar” and “dishonest” by former Suns players, I don’t think Booker will trust him to pass on the max deal for now.

[Villalobos]

I wouldn't trust McDonough farther than I could throw him. Get that money, Book.

[lilfishi22]

I'm not at all questioning *anything* about Booker's confidence in himself and I'm making a completely selfish statement but if Booker is as confident in himself as I think he is, he would try and do whatever the team needs to put a legit team around him before he re-ups. Wouldn't blame him at all for getting that money now but it would be good if he's confident enough to delay his extension so we can bring in some help.

[Flying Colors]

I wouldn't hold it against Book if he signed an extension the minute he is eligible instead of waiting to do it later, a lot can happen in a year.