We "Don't" Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread

[Joest2003]

To think that Monk wasn't in the rising star game makes me sick. Imagine how he felt watching all his peers knowing he is just as or more talented than them playing in the rising star game. Clifford needs to be banned from the sport of basketball period. To think we wasted a whole year of developing easily the best talent we had on this team in over a decade( yes I said it, Monk has generational talent) for Michael Carter F****** Williams makes me sick to my stomach.

[Joest2003]

The glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel: The Malik Monk Thread

[arthy704]

To think that Monk wasn't in the rising star game makes me sick. Imagine how he felt watching all his peers knowing he is just as or more talented than them playing in the rising star game. Clifford needs to be banned from the sport of basketball period. To think we wasted a whole year of developing easily the best talent we had on this team in over a decade( yes I said it, Monk has generational talent) for Michael Carter F****** Williams makes me sick to my stomach.

Might be a blessing in disguise for monk, its going to make him hungry and more greatful as he matures in the nba and see how how hard you got to work to even play.

[springcadre]

To think that Monk wasn't in the rising star game makes me sick. Imagine how he felt watching all his peers knowing he is just as or more talented than them playing in the rising star game. Clifford needs to be banned from the sport of basketball period. To think we wasted a whole year of developing easily the best talent we had on this team in over a decade( yes I said it, Monk has generational talent) for Michael Carter F****** Williams makes me sick to my stomach.

Might be a blessing in disguise for monk, its going to make him hungry and more greatful as he matures in the nba and see how hard you got to work to even play.

Yeah MCW really had to bust his ass for play time.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

MCW will probably remain one of my least favorite Hornets ever ... but the dude did work on defense. I don't feel the need to bust on him to prop Monk up. MCW's minutes and lack of being played with Monk like we thought would happen is 100% on Cliff & Silas.

[Joest2003]

Will Monks play of late have any influence on the future of Walker here in Charlotte? New GM knows the only way out of the batum and even MKG contacts is to sweeten the offer with Kembas extremely team friendly contract. Doesn't sound like the worst idea to hand the keys over to Monk if it means getting out of Batums contact. That would put us on a 2 year or so tank course and give Monk valuable experience. If we hit if the draft and Monk turns out into being the player on think he will be we will probably be in better shape 3 years from now than if we just stay on this course. Well actually I guarantee it but who wants to sit through a few more years of tanking after the past 8 we just had to bare.

Something I'm sure the new GM is already considering

[MasterIchiro]

Monk's play could inspire Kemba to want to take top dollar with Charlotte. Kemba could lead the charge of a new crop of young players. If the only way to change the supporting cast surrounding Kemba is to give Monk more minutes, then so be it. I'm all for giving Lamb and Monk more minutes, and short of trading MKG and Batum, the way to do that is to cut mInutes on BOTH Batum and MKG. If Clifford's not prepared to do that, he should be ousted.

[Joest2003]

Monk's play could inspire Kemba to want to take top dollar with Charlotte. Kemba could lead the charge of a new crop of young players. If the only way to change the supporting cast surrounding Kemba is to give Monk more minutes, then so be it. I'm all for giving Lamb and Monk more minutes, and short of trading MKG and Batum, the way to do that is to cut mInutes on BOTH Batum and MKG. If Clifford's not prepared to do that, he should be ousted.

I'm with ya it sounds great to give Monk and Lamb more minutes but we both know it won't happen. Especially when Walker and Batum are both here. That batum contact is the nail in the coffin in so many ways. On the Kemba Era in Charlotte at least

[MasterIchiro]

Monk's play could inspire Kemba to want to take top dollar with Charlotte. Kemba could lead the charge of a new crop of young players. If the only way to change the supporting cast surrounding Kemba is to give Monk more minutes, then so be it. I'm all for giving Lamb and Monk more minutes, and short of trading MKG and Batum, the way to do that is to cut mInutes on BOTH Batum and MKG. If Clifford's not prepared to do that, he should be ousted.

I'm with ya it sounds great to give Monk and Lamb more minutes but we both know it won't happen. Especially when Walker and Batum are both here. That batum contact is the nail in the coffin in so many ways. On the Kemba Era in Charlotte at least

Kupchak can't let Batum's deal kill us like that. He has to keep Kemba and work around it. I think MKG will be dealt as I've stated before. That's the only move that paves the way for Monk and allows Kemba to stay. Dwight's expiring contract frees money for MJ to max out Kemba. I really really want to see Kemba and Monk together for the next 5 years. Kemba thinks Monk will become a star. And that quote from JR Smith declaring Monk will be a problem... Yeah... Players make better scouts than fans and scouts. Monk is gonna be an all-star with Kemba. Together they will play a thrilling brand of ball that will turn heads and lure talent. Given the state of the roster, that is the most we can hope for. The vultures circled Kemba and Monk at the deadline. They know.

[euphorbus]

I am greatly heartened by Monk's resurgence, now that the (soon to be former) coach has decided to parcel out a few minutes in the last remaining games.

Prove all those doubters wrong, kid!!

[Lwcasu]

Monk's play could inspire Kemba to want to take top dollar with Charlotte. Kemba could lead the charge of a new crop of young players. If the only way to change the supporting cast surrounding Kemba is to give Monk more minutes, then so be it. I'm all for giving Lamb and Monk more minutes, and short of trading MKG and Batum, the way to do that is to cut mInutes on BOTH Batum and MKG. If Clifford's not prepared to do that, he should be ousted.

I'm with ya it sounds great to give Monk and Lamb more minutes but we both know it won't happen. Especially when Walker and Batum are both here. That batum contact is the nail in the coffin in so many ways. On the Kemba Era in Charlotte at least

Kupchak can't let Batum's deal kill us like that. He has to keep Kemba and work around it. I think MKG will be dealt as I've stated before. That's the only move that paves the way for Monk and allows Kemba to stay. Dwight's expiring contract frees money for MJ to max out Kemba. I really really want to see Kemba and Monk together for the next 5 years. Kemba thinks Monk will become a star. And that quote from JR Smith declaring Monk will be a problem... Yeah... Players make better scouts than fans and scouts. Monk is gonna be an all-star with Kemba. Together they will play a thrilling brand of ball that will turn heads and lure talent. Given the state of the roster, that is the most we can hope for. The vultures circled Kemba and Monk at the deadline. They know.

I'll be one of the first people to admit this, but I strongly believe Howard gets a lot of unjust criticism, and has played quite well this year. That being said, he's not in our future no matter how much I'd love to see it. Would it be better to deal Howard and try to get a 1st, even if its a late round pick, and then take back salary, albeit something less, or just let him expire? I'm torn between this question because for all intents and purposes it looks like not only is Monk showing strong promise, but so is Willy Hernangomez. Do we want to mitigate Hernangomez's development next year, or is it something we must do to extend Kemba? Could you package Batum and Howard, and take back less salary but lose the expiring? Howard is our most movable player asset besides Kemba.

[Robot Rock]

Taking back salary should not be an option.

[MasterIchiro]

I think it becomes complicated when you bring back any salary on Dwight. The simplest solution is to let him expire and free cap for Kemba. That must be locked in. If some team wants to give us a late first plus cap for Howard that would be perfect but I don't see it. If Hernangomez is held back it's only for one season. But with Cody's fragility, I don't think you can make major moves on the assumption that you need to find minutes for Hernangomez. The players truly blocked are Monk and Lamb. So for me it boils down to dealing MKG. It's one singular move that addresses multiple issues with the roster. Attach a pick if you must.

[MasterIchiro]

I simply don't see the panic in moving MKG when Monk needs minutes plus Lamb and Bacon are on the roster, and maybe Graham. I think it's time to let go. Monk is giving the new GM a vote of confidence, same for Lamb and to a lesser extent Bacon this year.

[arthy704]

If kemba scores 30+ points per game and monk does 360 poster slam dunk on every team and makes it to atleast top 7 to 6 in the east ill be content for the next 3 years. Get some sleepers in the draft and improve our player development we can be somewhat ok without a full on rebuild.

[Soul Rebel]

I simply don't see the panic in moving MKG when Monk needs minutes plus Lamb and Bacon are on the roster, and maybe Graham. I think it's time to let go. Monk is giving the new GM a vote of confidence, same for Lamb and to a lesser extent Bacon this year.

I am all for moving MKG, as much as I like him as a person and hope he succeeds....I'm just impatient now after 5 years of waiting.

Do you think MKG is enough of an attachment to Batum's contract to move it instead of a draft pick, or is his $13M/yr only make a trade worse since Batum is pushing close to $25M/per?

Hard to imagine what comes back to us if we are shipping out $48M in contracts.

That has to be the goal of 2018-19 for Kupchak (or whoever the GM is) -

* Move Batum
* Move MKG
* Draft Mikal Bridges
* Acquire a decently good backup PG
* Replace Cliff

[JDR720]

stick MKG at PF.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

stick MKG at PF.

1. I still have no confidence this will work out well for anyone. He would be injured very quickly playing PF full time.
2. MKG does not have the passing or shooting skills needed for a PF on offense these days. Heck he doesn't really have the ball handling he might need for a post up game.

As for Monk, he's fine for stretches as a PG, but would be better off ball. Needs a tall ball-handler / passer / good defender to play with. Again, it's too bad that MKG doesn't have any of those skills outside d

[catch20two]

stick MKG at PF.

1. I still have no confidence this will work out well for anyone. He would be injured very quickly playing PF full time.
2. MKG does not have the passing or shooting skills needed for a PF on offense these days. Heck he doesn't really have the ball handling he might need for a post up game.

As for Monk, he's fine for stretches as a PG, but would be better off ball. Needs a tall ball-handler / passer / good defender to play with. Again, it's too bad that MKG doesn't have any of those skills outside d

RHJ has been thriving at PF for the Nets and he’s the closest parallel to MKG in the entire NBA skills-wise combined with size.

But I’ll also agree with you in certain aspects since I’m skeptical of how well he’d play at PF myself. I think he should only play spot minutes at PF. MKG do have a 7ft wingspan which is as lengthy if not lengthier than Cody and Frank.

Monk could be a starting PG in this league but only after he shows the ability to be more of a positive impact than a negative. He has time. The player that he’s meant to be is yet to be determined at only 19-20 years old. If I had to make a bold prediction though it may be more likely that he becomes a scoring combo guard like Lou Williams until he find a coach that believes in him that much.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

RHJ actually shoots a few 3s, and more importantly, is a better passer. If MKG could do those things I might be willing to reconsider, but this is the wrong thread for MKG.