Dzanan Musa - Bosnian sensation

[Johnny Firpo]

I have found plenty of highlights, but nothing about his defense. How it looks?

Just today coach Zdovc said this about Musa defence

Oni će nas napadati gdje smo mi najslabiji i to nije nikakva tajna. Posebno napadaju Musu, koji je defanzivno naša najveća rupa, no i on može, ako hoće.

My man, would you translate it for us? Because this might be a shocker for you, but most of us don't speak Bosnian here.

[burek3]

I have found plenty of highlights, but nothing about his defense. How it looks?

Just today coach Zdovc said this about Musa defence

Oni će nas napadati gdje smo mi najslabiji i to nije nikakva tajna. Posebno napadaju Musu, koji je defanzivno naša najveća rupa, no i on može, ako hoće.

My man, would you translate it for us? Because this might be a shocker for you, but most of us don't speak Bosnian here.

"They will attack us at our weakest spot and that isn't a big secret. They always come for Musa, which is our biggest defensive liability, although he can hold on his own... if he wants to (if he is motivated enough)."

[baldur]

I like him. I like the way he plays. Could be a lottery pick. I dont think he goes below 20th.

[BlueSan]

One thing about Musa I have noticed, he has a so called "Geek neck" in other words his posture is not ok, in other words unless he wants to damage his body he ll have to change that and fast

[UcanUwill]

I like him. I like the way he plays. Could be a lottery pick. I dont think he goes below 20th.

He should really be a lottery pick. If he drops further, hes a steel.

[King-]

Musa just barely missed out on a triple-double today against KK Split:

36-10-8 with only 2 turnovers in 32 minutes on 11-14 shooting.

Very efficient game


Not the best video, but:

Watch on YouTube

If he played 30 mins every game, he would be dropping 20+ every time, IMO.

[nolang1]

He strikes me as someone who could've scored 18-20 ppg shooting 40% on threes as a college freshman this year. If that's the case he just has to be not awful on defense to have the potential to be a clear positive player.

[King-]

He strikes me as someone who could've scored 18-20 ppg shooting 40% on threes as a college freshman this year. If that's the case he just has to be not awful on defense to have the potential to be a clear positive player.

Yeah, no doubt in my mind he would have been a straight up killer in NCAA.

Not sure who exactly is on this U.S. team, but he's played against future NCAA players before, and I don't have the link.... but I think Draft express did a write up on these games and they said Musa was playing great defense

Watch on YouTube

[Mulhollanddrive]

Colangelo likes length on the wings and doesn't mind Euros, he'd fit the spread shooting scheme in Philly.

[King-]

Colangelo likes length on the wings and doesn't mind Euros, he'd fit the spread shooting scheme in Philly.

Philly already has Korkmaz. Aren't Philly fans high on him? He should get a bigger role next year

[Unbiased hater]

If he improves strength and conditioning he is gonna have better NBA career than Doncic bc he is better competitor, leader and has winning mentality but if no then he will stay at Europe for his whole career.

[BlueSan]

2017-18 * Cedevita Liga ABA 25 6 23.7 4.00 8.40 .476 1.16 3.68 .315 3.32 4.04 .822 0.76 2.56 3.32 AS = 1.60 1.08 0.08 1.72 1.36 PTS = 12.48
2017-18 * Cedevita A-1 Liga 17 5 22.8 4.41 8.82 .500 1.41 4.12 .343 3.29 4.06 .812 0.76 2.94 3.71 2.71 1.00 0.29 1.35 1.59 13.53
2017-18 * Cedevita Eurocup 16 1 20.2 3.56 7.50 .475 1.25 3.44 .364 2.12 2.81 .756 0.44 2.75 3.19 0.88 0.69 0.25 1.38 1.38 10.50

Dont get too hyped guys...

If he improves strength and conditioning he is gonna have better NBA career than Doncic bc he is better competitor, leader and has winning mentality but if no then he will stay at Europe for his whole career.

Haha what ?

Better competitor? Leader? Winning mentality? Better NBA career than Doncic? Just lol

And to explain what I mean lets look at the series against Bodučnost = SEMI FINAL for the ABA League Title where Cedevita was playing Bodučnost:

Mr. Musa STATS 3rd game
- 21 minutes played
- 4 points
- 25% shooting
- FG = 2/6
- 3PTs = 0/2
- Rebounds = 1
- Assist = 1

But no worries maybe it's one bad although final game which was deciding the fate of Cedevita in ABA league?

Lets take a look 2nd games in a 3 games series where Cedevita actually won lets look at Musa's stats:

- 18 minutes played
- 5 points
- 33% shooting
- FG = 1/2
- 3PTs = 1/4
- Rebounds = 2
- Assist = 0

Hmmm ok maybe it was the first game in these series and he just had 2 bad games? Lets take a look at Cedevita's loss. lost just by one point in that one too. Let's see how much Musa helped his team shall we?

- 28 minutes played
- 5 points
- 25% shooting
- FG = 1/5
- 3PTs = 1/3
- Rebounds = 6
- Assist = 3


Yeah I clearly see that mamba mentality not to mention I see him overshadowing guys like Doncic in no time. Cedevita probably lost the series because mr. Musa didnt show up for 3 games...

I know that not every game of his is posted in this thread, but above were 3 of the most important games in Musa's season he just played recently and the guy was no where to be seen on the court...and this is ABA league not Euroleague we are talking about ok?


So brother please give me a break with the above comments, I mean you can have your opinion and what not but at least let it be objective. The guy is a nice talent he should imo go around 15-30 in this draft but he is far from some clutch wizard and him and top draft picks live on different planets...


Also for information these three games were played on the following dates:

18.03.2018 = first game
25.03.2018 = second
01.04.2018 = final deciding game


But I guess since Mr. Musa didnt have any stats to show for no one posted that ey?

[King-]

2017-18 * Cedevita Liga ABA 25 6 23.7 4.00 8.40 .476 1.16 3.68 .315 3.32 4.04 .822 0.76 2.56 3.32 AS = 1.60 1.08 0.08 1.72 1.36 PTS = 12.48
2017-18 * Cedevita A-1 Liga 17 5 22.8 4.41 8.82 .500 1.41 4.12 .343 3.29 4.06 .812 0.76 2.94 3.71 2.71 1.00 0.29 1.35 1.59 13.53
2017-18 * Cedevita Eurocup 16 1 20.2 3.56 7.50 .475 1.25 3.44 .364 2.12 2.81 .756 0.44 2.75 3.19 0.88 0.69 0.25 1.38 1.38 10.50

Dont get too hyped guys...

If he improves strength and conditioning he is gonna have better NBA career than Doncic bc he is better competitor, leader and has winning mentality but if no then he will stay at Europe for his whole career.

Haha what ?

Better competitor? Leader? Winning mentality? Better NBA career than Doncic? Just lol

And to explain what I mean lets look at the series against Bodučnost = SEMI FINAL for the ABA League Title where Cedevita was playing Bodučnost:

Mr. Musa STATS 3rd game
- 21 minutes played
- 4 points
- 25% shooting
- FG = 2/6
- 3PTs = 0/2
- Rebounds = 1
- Assist = 1

But no worries maybe it's one bad although final game which was deciding the fate of Cedevita in ABA league?

Lets take a look 2nd games in a 3 games series where Cedevita actually won lets look at Musa's stats:

- 18 minutes played
- 5 points
- 33% shooting
- FG = 1/2
- 3PTs = 1/4
- Rebounds = 2
- Assist = 0

Hmmm ok maybe it was the first game in these series and he just had 2 bad games? Lets take a look at Cedevita's loss. lost just by one point in that one too. Let's see how much Musa helped his team shall we?

- 28 minutes played
- 5 points
- 25% shooting
- FG = 1/5
- 3PTs = 1/3
- Rebounds = 6
- Assist = 3


Yeah I clearly see that mamba mentality not to mention I see him overshadowing guys like Doncic in no time. Cedevita probably lost the series because mr. Musa didnt show up for 3 games...

I know that not every game of his is posted in this thread, but above were 3 of the most important games in Musa's season he just played recently and the guy was no where to be seen on the court...and this is ABA league not Euroleague we are talking about ok?


So brother please give me a break with the above comments, I mean you can have your opinion and what not but at least let it be objective. The guy is a nice talent he should imo go around 15-30 in this draft but he is far from some clutch wizard and him and top draft picks live on different planets...


Also for information these three games were played on the following dates:

18.03.2018 = first game
25.03.2018 = second
01.04.2018 = final deciding game


But I guess since Mr. Musa didnt have any stats to show for no one posted that ey?

You're blaming him for those losses? Really? He has been under-utilized all year, and you highlight 3 bad games he has had. That 36 point game really struck a nerve with you, huh?

News flash: 18 year olds playing professional basketball are not going to be perfect every game. Doncic has had bad games too.

Musa has been leading his national team playing against 30 year old men. Sure he has had a couple of bad national team games, but you should check him out when he has higher usage and more freedom. He is playing with Roko bum Ukic, Will Cherry and those are the featured players for Cedevita, not Musa. Calling out Musa for 3 bad games where he took 6 shots is hilarious.

He's as talented offensively as just about everyone in the draft, 3 bad games for a team that he isn't the featured player means nothing. You just sound very salty that this kid will be in the NBA while you sit at home as an arm-chair scout. We all know your agenda, though. Stay mad

[Unbiased hater]

Musa past the eye test while Doncic dont. Games against Russia and Belgium are at much higher level than Adriatic league and he lead his national team full of a young players through the qualifications . And he will be around 10-15 place in the draft with chance to be even higher so you discredited yourself with that statement.

[King-]

Musa past the eye test while Doncic dont. Games against Russia and Belgium are at much higher level than Adriatic league and he lead his national team full of a young players through the qualifications . And he will be around 10-15 place in the draft with chance to be even higher so you discredited yourself with that statement.

Not that I necessarily think he will have a better NBA career than Doncic... but that guy is clearly filled with hate. He was just waiting for a time to post something like that and let his frustration out. I can sense it from my computer screen. There may be some questions, but it does not come from those three cherry-picked games

Anybody who has followed him since he was 14 (like the draft experts) would say that he has been answering nearly all of the question marks people raised when he was playing youth level and how it would translate against grown men....


Dzanan Musa isn't a competitior because he didn't score 20 points on the 6 shots he took in 3 "important" games for Cedevita, as the 4th option. Sure....

The people who actually know about basketball, like the scouts who watch him know that he is as competitive as it possibly gets. He has a Kobe mentality, without a doubt.

[BlueSan]

Please spare me the offended talk. I was reading this thread and naturallly keeping track of Musa the entire season as also watching his games.:

I'll repeat once again so it is clear:

1st
- I believe Musa to be a good player I wouldnt state he is a lottery pick otherwise and again, I acknowledge his skills and potential. He is a good player and a really good prospect. So I want to make that clear first

2nd
- What made me post today were the above statements. Yes Musa has shown flashes of what is needed to become great. however, he is nowhere near this Jordan of ABA league or something of that sort, that people are making him out to be. You have the videos now days to check his games instead of just highlights and I am talking ALL games not just good ones. Statistic is there for people to see as well.
The exact words used which triggered my response were the following:

bc he is better competitor, leader and has winning mentality but if no then he will stay at Europe for his whole career.

He is better competitor leader and has a higher winning mentality than Doncic? I mean ok, you can have a subjective opinion about that, but imo the above is pure ridiculousness when you are comparing him to a guy who won a EU championship with an underdog team, has taken the mantel from Llull in Real Madrid to lead his team, has been clutch and is clearly invested in games he plays and does clutch moments.


3rd
Also what bothered me on this thread, is that people were posting just these 34 points games...while the entire semi final against Bodučnost was overlooked for instance.

And yes him failing to produce on those 3 games for instance against Bodučnost (which were not the only "bad games" as you say) tell us a lot about Musa, of course he is not to be sole reason to blame for Cedevita not making it to the final. Is he one of the main ones? Yeah in a sense he is. Had he preformed better especially in first game Cedevita would be in the final.


So again please spare me the hater remarks, I like Musa.

Oh yeah P.S. once again I ll say it. He needs to change his posture, or it will hurt him in his basketball career.

[burek3]

Oh yeah P.S. once again I ll say it. He needs to change his posture, or it will hurt him in his basketball career.

Naw, man! Ninđa Kornjača, he's a superhero with the posture

[psimanic1]

He has higher potential than Doncic but Doncic is sure bet right now to give you Rookie of the year performance, but as we all know potential doesnt always convert. Thats why i would love for some team that is fighting for POs to pick Musa and not someone with 2nd first round pick that is tanking. Would love him on Denver(yes Im Bosnian so...), and yes he would have to change his posture a little and who would be better for that job than Steve Hess

[juanc]

Cmon guys you can't be serious... How can Musa have a higher potential than Doncic? In which segments of the game is he better than Doncic(or has the potential to be better)?
Don't get me wrong. I am a Musa fan,but I just wouldn't take it that far... Who was the last prospect who has had a bbal IQ/feel for the game like Luka?

[Dzon Dilindzer]

I think I watched interview with Dzanan and he said doctors told him theres no problem with his posture, its all in the head etc

but hes working on it regularly