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Post#121 » by 916fan » Wed Apr 4, 2018 8:49 pm

clyde21 wrote:Anyways, can someone explain to me why he isn't a lotto pick? I see athleticism, decent size, good handle and playmaking, can shoot the rock, can dribble-drive, hit FTs and has a crazy motor.

He's an awesome combo guard for today's NBA. I really don't see how guys like Gilgeous-Alexander and Duval or even Sexton are better honestly.

I don't think he's a lotto prospect. Here's how I view him:

Pros:
-solid SG size
-good vertical hops
-solid 2 feet explosion
-good 3pt shooter
-solid off-ball player
-good handles for a SG
-good passer, extremely unselfish
-high IQ
-good transition player

Weaknesses:
-doesn't have a quick first step
-doesn't have a good change of directions
-struggles with tight corners
-average foot speed
-lack of advanced ball handling moves
-struggles to create his offense due to lack of ball handling and quickness
-struggles to get to the rim consistently

If you consider him a combo-guard, what separates him from guys like Shake Milton and Tony Carr?
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Re: donte divincenzo 

Post#122 » by bwgood77 » Wed Apr 4, 2018 9:19 pm

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Wtf? No he doesn't.

Unless you think other teams are trotting out their bench players 30 minutes a game?


No, the other team's 1st and 2nd best perimeter defenders are guarding Bridges and Brunson.


Okay, clearly you're just making **** up as you go along at this point. I'm done with this convo.


Why would the two best perimeter defenders not be guarding Brunson and Bridges, their two leading scorers, both of whom shoot better than Donte from 3 and from 2 and get to the line more?

The whole team is just too tough to guard since they play like 7 wings between 6'3 and 6'9 who can all hit the 3.
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Post#123 » by Stillwater » Wed Apr 4, 2018 10:46 pm

They did play some together in the final but the Big Ragu took over the game when Brunson left. The defenders failed to stop him as he has a much quicker release and higher point of release than Brunson not just because they were occupied elsewhere. DiVincenzo had one of the best games of his life in a national title game,that shouldn't take anything away from his impact throughout the season but it makes people confused as to why he isn't ranked higher or on draft boards. The fact that he isn't remains and always has been that he is underrated and probably the best bench player in college basketball.
He should but probably will not declare unless his phone won't stop ringing as it will be his starting gig in Nova next season.
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Post#124 » by 916fan » Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:15 am

Stillwater wrote:They did play some together in the final but the Big Ragu took over the game when Brunson left. The defenders failed to stop him as he has a much quicker release and higher point of release than Brunson not just because they were occupied elsewhere. DiVincenzo had one of the best games of his life in a national title game,that shouldn't take anything away from his impact throughout the season but it makes people confused as to why he isn't ranked higher or on draft boards. The fact that he isn't remains and always has been that he is underrated and probably the best bench player in college basketball.
He should but probably will not declare unless his phone won't stop ringing as it will be his starting gig in Nova next season.

I can't help but feel like the people who didn't care/know about DiVincenzo until they saw the championship game probably didn't watch a single Mikal Bridges games. It's not hard to miss DiVincenzo. Even if you don't have the best draft eye, the announcers gush over him all the time.
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Post#125 » by Stillwater » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:22 am

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Stillwater wrote:They did play some together in the final but the Big Ragu took over the game when Brunson left. The defenders failed to stop him as he has a much quicker release and higher point of release than Brunson not just because they were occupied elsewhere. DiVincenzo had one of the best games of his life in a national title game,that shouldn't take anything away from his impact throughout the season but it makes people confused as to why he isn't ranked higher or on draft boards. The fact that he isn't remains and always has been that he is underrated and probably the best bench player in college basketball.
He should but probably will not declare unless his phone won't stop ringing as it will be his starting gig in Nova next season.

I can't help but feel like the people who didn't care/know about DiVincenzo until they saw the championship game probably didn't watch a single Mikal Bridges games. It's not hard to miss DiVincenzo. Even if you don't have the best draft eye, the announcers gush over him all the time.

yep but unfortunately it was a given he would return to school given all the shine Brunson gets as the leader blah blah blah, but now that Donte has shown up in undeniable fashion he is no longer the sleeper gm's were hoping he would be, the cat's out of the bag on his value even if everyone that was watching already knew it.
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Post#126 » by Upperclass » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:55 am

How's a Lou Williams comp?
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Post#127 » by DrCoach » Thu Apr 5, 2018 4:41 am

I think the best comparison for him is Tyler Johnson from the Heat
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Post#128 » by Ruzious » Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:43 pm

If you compare Brunson and Donte strictly as point guard prospects, which is better?
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Post#129 » by No-Man » Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:49 pm

Ruzious wrote:If you compare Brunson and Donte strictly as point guard prospects, which is better?

Brunson, not particularly close, I get the idea of extra size with Donte, but Brunson is the better defender if you want him to stick to quicker Guards, and Brunson can generate offense, and control the pace, he isn't a super advanced creator, and lacks some stuff, but Donte is obviously behind in that sense.

I think there is merit to Donte > Brunson as a prospect, but not as a PG
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Post#130 » by Ruzious » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:04 pm

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Ruzious wrote:If you compare Brunson and Donte strictly as point guard prospects, which is better?

Brunson, not particularly close, I get the idea of extra size with Donte, but Brunson is the better defender if you want him to stick to quicker Guards, and Brunson can generate offense, and control the pace, he isn't a super advanced creator, and lacks some stuff, but Donte is obviously behind in that sense.

I think there is merit to Donte > Brunson as a prospect, but not as a PG

What I don't like about Brunson's style as a PG is that he's strictly looking for his shot. That's worked real well at Nova - because he's got the 4 and 5 spreading the floor for him, so he got to go 1 on 1 against college guards. He wasn't even doubled when he posted up opposing small guards. Most NBA PG's are going to be bigger and longer than him, so that posting up that he did so effectively isn't going to work in the NBA, imo. I just don't see his game translating in the NBA unless he's given the same type of freedom and bigs that space the floor for him.
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Re: donte divincenzo 

Post#131 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:18 pm

clyde21 wrote:Top 10 prospect. No one can convince me otherwise. Holy ****.


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Post#132 » by mattg » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:18 pm

He’s easily a top 5 perimeter defender in the league today. He’s so goddamn good defensively.
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Post#133 » by Ruzious » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:40 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Fischella wrote:
Ruzious wrote:If you compare Brunson and Donte strictly as point guard prospects, which is better?

Brunson, not particularly close, I get the idea of extra size with Donte, but Brunson is the better defender if you want him to stick to quicker Guards, and Brunson can generate offense, and control the pace, he isn't a super advanced creator, and lacks some stuff, but Donte is obviously behind in that sense.

I think there is merit to Donte > Brunson as a prospect, but not as a PG

What I don't like about Brunson's style as a PG is that he's strictly looking for his shot. That's worked real well at Nova - because he's got the 4 and 5 spreading the floor for him, so he got to go 1 on 1 against college guards. He wasn't even doubled when he posted up opposing small guards. Most NBA PG's are going to be bigger and longer than him, so that posting up that he did so effectively isn't going to work in the NBA, imo. I just don't see his game translating in the NBA unless he's given the same type of freedom and bigs that space the floor for him.

Ok, I might have been just a bit off on Brunson. :lol: His game really has translated well. Those Nova players were all so tough and fundamentally sound.
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