We "Don't" Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread

HornetJail · Post #901 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 3:49 am

geraldwallace wrote:Where’s Hoopsmalone and the rest of the Monk haters??

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Steve Clifford is likely in Orlando, so that covers it

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #902 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 4:16 am

Oh, wow. For a minute I had a vision of Cliff being forced to coach Biz as his starting center again.

Great night for Monk. Next year could be really interesting!

TheKingofSting · Post #903 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 4:41 am

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Post #904 » by **fatlever** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 6:27 am

Great stuff from monk tonight. Forget about the points and the red hot shooting from Deep, what I loved tonight was his ball movement. He did not let the ball stick in his hands for long. I'm glad he's starting to realize that he'll still get his shots even if he keeps the ball moving. Promising stuff. Only gripe is I wish it happened against a team that was even remotely trying to put a competitive product on the floor.

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Benjamin Linus · Post #905 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 10:51 am

Still can't believe the Knicks passed on this guy.

Bassman · Post #906 » by **Bassman** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 12:35 pm

Clifford is an idiot. He is so vet driven he has no ability or space to develop young talent. No, Monk wasn’t ready for any significant minutes early on, and frankly shouldn’t have been pegged into being a PG anyway. His skill set is combo guard.

You blend these guys in very gradually as they elevate their awareness and skill set. Ultimately players need minutes to grow.

Can’t stand Clifford for multiple reasons but this is one of them. Good job by Monk for sticking with it.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #907 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 1:22 pm

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Robot Rock · Post #908 » by **Robot Rock** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 1:46 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
geraldwallace wrote:Where’s Hoopsmalone and the rest of the Monk haters??

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There is no rest.

Which bothers you more: that Monk is doing a great job, or that his detractors are disappearing?

powerforward · Post #909 » by **powerforward** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 1:50 pm

I liked his shooting and shot making, but my favorite thing from tonight was the pick and roll play with willy. just really nice to see him show court vision in pnr

Post #910 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 1:57 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
geraldwallace wrote:Where’s Hoopsmalone and the rest of the Monk haters??

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There is no rest.

Which bothers you more: that Monk is doing a great job, or that his detractors are disappearing?

It never bothers me when players for my team play well, that is the sort of petty **** that drives me crazy. I don't know why you would even ask that question.

There literally was only Malone that bashed Monk. Monk had a bad season, but he was 19, missed SL and training camp, and was asked to play a new position. It was expected that he would struggle.

He clearly has the talent. He just needs to develop.

Robot Rock · Post #911 » by **Robot Rock** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 5:55 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:There is no rest.

Which bothers you more: that Monk is doing a great job, or that his detractors are disappearing?

It never bothers me when players for my team play well, that is the sort of petty **** that drives me crazy. I don't know why you would even ask that question.

There literally was only Malone that bashed Monk. Monk had a bad season, but he was 19, missed SL and training camp, and was asked to play a new position. It was expected that he would struggle.

He clearly has the talent. He just needs to develop.

OK, but why whine about "there is no rest," then?

Post #912 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 6:22 pm

Because there aren't other Monk haters? How is that whining?

Eoghan · Post #913 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 6:31 pm

I dunno. With MCW's elite defense Orlando likely wouldn't have scored over 20 points and probably quit at halftime to go to Disney World.

euphorbus · Post #914 » by **euphorbus** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 7:22 pm

Bassman wrote:You blend these guys in very gradually as they elevate their awareness and skill set. Ultimately players need minutes to grow.

Monk has averaged 13.2 minutes per game this year. He is probably the most talented player drafted by the Hornets since Kemba Walker.

In his rookie season, Frank Kaminsky played 21.1 minutes per game. He was, frankly, not very good. I don't get it.

Soul Rebel · Post #915 » by **Soul Rebel** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 8:06 pm

This should be near the top of the list when they show Cliff the door this summer.
You.
Don't.
Develop.
Talent.

Vets are great and there should be some reigning in of rookies and players that aren't ready, but Cliff is at the other end of this extreme. He doesn't get it.

Good job Monk!! Way to power through the adversity an frustration and shine. He has star potential and can be a part of a lethal backcourt for awhile. Start Kemba-Lamb next year and let Monk develop as a 6th man off the bench at 20 years old.

BeesWax · Post #916 » by **BeesWax** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 8:42 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
Which bothers you more: that Monk is doing a great job, or that his detractors are disappearing?

It never bothers me when players for my team play well, that is the sort of petty **** that drives me crazy. I don't know why you would even ask that question.

There literally was only Malone that bashed Monk. Monk had a bad season, but he was 19, missed SL and training camp, and was asked to play a new position. It was expected that he would struggle.

He clearly has the talent. He just needs to develop.

OK, but why whine about "there is no rest," then?

I think the Monk hate was more unconditional support of Cliff than intentional hate of Monk. I am not sure the people realized what it came across as when they tried to defend the mistakes he made all year.

GiggitySmalls · Post #917 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 9:39 pm

Monk is still my guy!!! Ankle injury, no sl, no training camp, cliff....its to be expected in 13 mins per game. But these past few games has given major glimpses and shown us what he can really do. He just turned 20. If he was a 22 or 23 year old rookie I'd understand the hate (Kaminsky). But not at 19/20

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Post #918 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 9:43 pm

jdm3 wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
It never bothers me when players for my team play well, that is the sort of petty **** that drives me crazy. I don't know why you would even ask that question.

There literally was only Malone that bashed Monk. Monk had a bad season, but he was 19, missed SL and training camp, and was asked to play a new position. It was expected that he would struggle.

He clearly has the talent. He just needs to develop.

OK, but why whine about "there is no rest," then?

I think the Monk hate was more unconditional support of Cliff than intentional hate of Monk. I am not sure the people realized what it came across as when they tried to defend the mistakes he made all year.

This is the sort of petty **** that I hate.

No one has blindly supported Cliff this season. Name a single person that has not said he should be replaced. Or, you know, don't, because tracking viewpoints to scoreboard takes is stupid.

BeesWax · Post #919 » by **BeesWax** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 9:57 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
OK, but why whine about "there is no rest," then?

I think the Monk hate was more unconditional support of Cliff than intentional hate of Monk. I am not sure the people realized what it came across as when they tried to defend the mistakes he made all year.

This is the sort of petty **** that I hate.

No one has blindly supported Cliff this season. Name a single person that has not said he should be replaced. Or, you know, don't, because tracking viewpoints to scoreboard takes is stupid.

People have blindly supported Cliff this year as they have done with him and certain players in the past. Everyone has their own opinions and that is the nice thing about the board but this wasn’t a petty comment as much as explaining why some people may not think the were Monk hating when they were. It is what it is though and if you want to think otherwise that is your right.

Post #920 » by **yosemiteben** » Sun Apr 8, 2018 12:32 am

I don't think there is a single regular on this board that has not said at some point this season that it's time to replace Cliff.