Game 80: Cleveland Cavaliers (49-30) @ Philadelphia 76ers (48-30) - 7:00 PM EST

CaptainCanada · Post #2 » by **CaptainCanada** » Fri Apr 6, 2018 9:37 pm

Should be a great game.

Stillwater · Post #3 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Apr 6, 2018 11:05 pm

need this one bad... gotta tank those 2 ny games

Stillwater · Post #4 » by **Stillwater** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 12:02 am

Glad this happened NOW Cavs needed the wake up call defensively tbh.
Indy in 1st round at 4 or 5 seed

yoyoboy · Post #5 » by **yoyoboy** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 12:13 am

Stillwater wrote:Glad this happened NOW Cavs needed the wake up call defensively tbh.
Indy in 1st round at 4 or 5 seed

Nothing is changing so long as Lue is here. Silver lining of LeBron leaving is we might be able to can his dumb *** along with the rest of the coaching staff.

Stillwater · Post #6 » by **Stillwater** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 12:36 am

yoyoboy wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Glad this happened NOW Cavs needed the wake up call defensively tbh.
Indy in 1st round at 4 or 5 seed

Nothing is changing so long as Lue is here. Silver lining of LeBron leaving is we might be able to can his dumb *** along with the rest of the coaching staff.

Don't look now but they woke up.
Lue isn't the problem and LeBron isn't leaving.

Stillwater · Post #7 » by **Stillwater** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 1:48 am

Great come back just couldn't finish it off. Should never have been down that much though.

Dupp · Post #8 » by **Dupp** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 2:36 am

Great game in the end. Was fun after the first half

yoyoboy · Post #9 » by **yoyoboy** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 3:57 am

At least the Knicks won today. Assuming Brooklyn wins these last 3, 8th is still a possibility if we tank one of these last 2 games against NY. It'd be a tie at 29 wins and then the coin flip would determine who's at 8.

Post #10 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Apr 7, 2018 4:10 pm

I'm glad that first quarter happened in the regular season. Lue left homeless Kyrie in for too long but most of the damage was done with LBJ playing at 2/3 speed in that first quarter. The Sixers are too good for that ****.

Dupp · Post #11 » by **Dupp** » Sun Apr 8, 2018 10:39 am

So do philly hold the tiebreaker over us? Are we basically locked into the 4th seed?

Stillwater · Post #12 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Apr 9, 2018 12:45 am

Dupp wrote:So do philly hold the tiebreaker over us? Are we basically locked into the 4th seed?

only if Philly wins out and has the better record.
a tied record and we have the advantage by winning our division which they did not , we have a better winning % against teams in our division then they do, we also have the better conference record against teams that made the playoffs at 15-10 to Philly 10-15.
I didn't bother with the point differential.

Dupp · Post #13 » by **Dupp** » Mon Apr 9, 2018 12:57 am

Stillwater wrote:
Dupp wrote:So do philly hold the tiebreaker over us? Are we basically locked into the 4th seed?

only if Philly wins out and has the better record.
a tied record and we have the advantage by winning our division which they did not , we have a better winning % against teams in our division then they do, we also have the better conference record against teams that made the playoffs at 15-10 to Philly 10-15.
I didn't bother with the point differential.

Does h2h not factor in?

Stillwater · Post #14 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Apr 9, 2018 1:40 am

Dupp wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
Dupp wrote:So do philly hold the tiebreaker over us? Are we basically locked into the 4th seed?

only if Philly wins out and has the better record.
a tied record and we have the advantage by winning our division which they did not , we have a better winning % against teams in our division then they do, we also have the better conference record against teams that made the playoffs at 15-10 to Philly 10-15.
I didn't bother with the point differential.

Does h2h not factor in?

yeah but we split the series.
The hitch is if we want the 3 seed we have to win out and hope they lose to bucks on the same tip time as our last game unless somehow atl also beats them, but winning out we **** ourselves out of the 8 spot in the draft.
At this point I would be fine with losing tomorrow and winning on 11th being locked into the 4 barring Philly dropping both games.
At least we then are ahead of Indy with 1 more win and will lock up the 8 pick in the draft.
If Nets help us with losses, us winning out and Philly dropping 1 puts us back in 3rd and we are still 7 or 8 before the lottery drawing.

Dupp · Post #15 » by **Dupp** » Mon Apr 9, 2018 1:59 am

Yeah fair enough. I thought they won the season series 2-1 but obviously it was 2-2

Stillwater · Post #16 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Apr 9, 2018 2:01 am

Dupp wrote:Yeah fair enough. I thought they won the season series 2-1 but obviously it was 2-2

yeah changed my original response if you didn't notice.
To me 3 seed not really any better than 4 seed this season, would rather be 4th if it's gets us a better drafted player

Post #17 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Apr 9, 2018 5:24 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Dupp wrote:Yeah fair enough. I thought they won the season series 2-1 but obviously it was 2-2
yeah changed my original response if you didn't notice.
To me 3 seed not really any better than 4 seed this season, would rather be 4th if it's gets us a better drafted player

I'd rather play the Pacers than the Heat in the first round. But it's probably more important to have home court over the Sixers in the ECF.

Stillwater · Post #18 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Apr 9, 2018 5:40 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
Dupp wrote:Yeah fair enough. I thought they won the season series 2-1 but obviously it was 2-2
yeah changed my original response if you didn't notice.
To me 3 seed not really any better than 4 seed this season, would rather be 4th if it's gets us a better drafted player

I'd rather play the Pacers than the Heat in the first round. But it's probably more important to have home court over the Sixers in the ECF.

Never even considered the hc advantage against Philly. Might play a factor as well. I'm fine with us winning out and hoping the Bucks stop the water in the last game against Philly[although I am not too confident they will] .
We blew our chance to control our own destiny really, so I also would be fine with splitting the last 2 games against ny so we can keep a 1/2 game lead on Indy and the 8 spot in the draft in case somebody moves up into the top 3 on draft lottery day and pushes down. Hopefully only 1 team will move up as seems to be the normal scenario if any team gets into the top 3. If 2 or 3 get in there I doubt they will all be teams worse than 8 or 9 so 9 should be our floor slim chance 10th.
Luckily for us this draft class is solid and we can get a high level high floor role player or swing for the fences on an raw or lesser scouted boom bust prospect. [ I am all for trading down with clippers for 12/13th pick but expect Phoenix with 16/17 would be more willing to do the 9 for 16/17 swap than LAC doing a 12/13 for 9 swap maybe for the 8th. ]
It will be interesting to see if Mikal Bridges decides to return for another chance at a championship, him not declaring changes the plan significantly for a lot of teams in the 6-9 range imo.