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Post#221 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Apr 5, 2018 11:47 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:All players must be in their first five seasons - I thought of how one of the appeals of a pre 90s draft in bringing in some rarely used seasons like late 80s Jordan, Malone, Drexler, Hakeem, etc., which led me to the idea of going first five years for everyone

We did do a 25 and under draft last year which seems to accomplish more or less the same thing, albeit some of the current regulars wouldn't have been involved.

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What about first three seasons and last three seasons?
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Post#222 » by 8on » Fri Apr 6, 2018 12:02 am

Definitely down with the 20th century draft
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Post#223 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Apr 9, 2018 1:41 am

Dr Positivity wrote:Position step - similar to stair steps except your position has to be one up/down from the last pick's


I'm thinking about starting this one next, I think it would be a fun variation from the stair step with 5 positions being less restrictive, and the strategy of using players with two or three position players to jump up or down faster (for example if you draft a SG/SF combo, you can draft PG, SG, SF or PF next pick)
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Post#224 » by Laimbeer » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:59 am

How about a trade connection draft?

You pick anyone with your first pick, and your second pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first pick (includes players subsequently drafted with picks involved). Then your third pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first OR second pick, and so on. Your potential connections accumulate as you go along.
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1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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Post#225 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:43 am

Laimbeer wrote:How about a trade connection draft?

You pick anyone with your first pick, and your second pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first pick (includes players subsequently drafted with picks involved). Then your third pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first OR second pick, and so on. Your potential connections accumulate as you go along.


The connections could be a little thin, most good players aren't traded for other good players
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Post#226 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:49 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:How about a trade connection draft?

You pick anyone with your first pick, and your second pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first pick (includes players subsequently drafted with picks involved). Then your third pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first OR second pick, and so on. Your potential connections accumulate as you go along.


The connections could be a little thin, most good players aren't traded for other good players

And a lot of great players aren't traded at all. Doesn't seem like a viable pool.
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Post#227 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:42 am

Might want to give it some distance from pre-2000 game, but I wouldn't mind a pre-2000 and-1 game, or possibly and-2. Getting to add one modern player to the game like the one being played right now would add an interesting element to it with the ability to add that modern guy who really makes your team fit together
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Post#228 » by euroleague » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:44 am

I'd like to positional stairstep, no FGA restrictions, 1 hour draft. No restrictions, but 16 people instead of 8. 30 seconds to make your pick
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Post#229 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:47 am

euroleague wrote:I'd like to positional stairstep, no FGA restrictions, 1 hour draft. No restrictions, but 16 people instead of 8. 30 seconds to make your pick


No way would there be 16 people who sign up for a 1 hour draft (hard enough for a traditional draft these days), and forcing people to make picks on the fly that fit the position restriction is too brutal in my opinion
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Post#230 » by euroleague » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:25 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
euroleague wrote:I'd like to positional stairstep, no FGA restrictions, 1 hour draft. No restrictions, but 16 people instead of 8. 30 seconds to make your pick


No way would there be 16 people who sign up for a 1 hour draft (hard enough for a traditional draft these days), and forcing people to make picks on the fly that fit the position restriction is too brutal in my opinion


I missed the last draft, but it seemed pretty relaxed. Definitely need more action to get more drafters
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Post#231 » by Laimbeer » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:13 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:How about a trade connection draft?

You pick anyone with your first pick, and your second pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first pick (includes players subsequently drafted with picks involved). Then your third pick has to have been involved in a trade with your first OR second pick, and so on. Your potential connections accumulate as you go along.


The connections could be a little thin, most good players aren't traded for other good players

And a lot of great players aren't traded at all. Doesn't seem like a viable pool.


How about the pool simply be players who were traded at some point? It would be a significant change to the pool, probably comparable to a No-Finals pool or something.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#232 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:49 pm

Laimbeer wrote:How about the pool simply be players who were traded at some point? It would be a significant change to the pool, probably comparable to a No-Finals pool or something.


Yea that works for me
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Post#233 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:03 pm

70s to now:

LeBron
Kobe
Shaq
Wilt
KG
Kareem
Hakeem
Chuck
Walton
Moses
T-Mac
CP3
Nash
Howard

Include draft day trades and you can rope in Dirk and Kawhi among others. Looks pretty solid.
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Post#234 » by Laimbeer » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:05 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Position step - similar to stair steps except your position has to be one up/down from the last pick's


I'm thinking about starting this one next, I think it would be a fun variation from the stair step with 5 positions being less restrictive, and the strategy of using players with two or three position players to jump up or down faster (for example if you draft a SG/SF combo, you can draft PG, SG, SF or PF next pick)


I'm ok with this. It's a good twist on Stair Step®. Not sure if we need to poll or just run with it.
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2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
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Post#235 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:11 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Position step - similar to stair steps except your position has to be one up/down from the last pick's


I'm thinking about starting this one next, I think it would be a fun variation from the stair step with 5 positions being less restrictive, and the strategy of using players with two or three position players to jump up or down faster (for example if you draft a SG/SF combo, you can draft PG, SG, SF or PF next pick)


I'm ok with this. It's a good twist on Stair Step®. Not sure if we need to poll or just run with it.

Poll.
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Post#236 » by Laimbeer » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:49 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
I'm thinking about starting this one next, I think it would be a fun variation from the stair step with 5 positions being less restrictive, and the strategy of using players with two or three position players to jump up or down faster (for example if you draft a SG/SF combo, you can draft PG, SG, SF or PF next pick)


I'm ok with this. It's a good twist on Stair Step®. Not sure if we need to poll or just run with it.

Poll.


Too late, looks like we've got one starting.
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Post#237 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:55 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Too late, looks like we've got one starting.


He made the poll first, 17-18 and 1 leading as it did in CSF's poll, so I went ahead and made it
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Post#238 » by Laimbeer » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:27 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Too late, looks like we've got one starting.


He made the poll first, 17-18 and 1 leading as it did in CSF's poll, so I went ahead and made it


Ops, didn't see, thanks.
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Post#239 » by lilroddyb » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:38 pm

Kind of sucks that I missed the 17 - 18 + one, really wanted to play in that game

So would anyone be interested in doing really similar game, just 17 - 18 + 2, there could be some monster alltime duos there if drafters are waiting to take their guys
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Post#240 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:06 am

lilroddyb wrote:Kind of sucks that I missed the 17 - 18 + one, really wanted to play in that game

So would anyone be interested in doing really similar game, just 17 - 18 + 2, there could be some monster alltime duos there if drafters are waiting to take their guys

Too similar to the current one IMO. I mean it does change the strategy somewhat but not in a way that I'd find interesting (although I'm not big on exceptions in general).

One idea I'd like to bring back after the playoffs is the one where you can pick anyone who played in 2017-18, and also any season of their career is available. So you could use peak Wade, Dirk, Kawhi, Vince, Dwight, etc. We did it before for either 2015-16 or 2016-17.

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