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Austin stepped up big in the 4th. Right back in the playoff hunt now
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Every win is crucial at the moment, so I don't really care how we get them. Not feeling too optimistic about winning at least 6 or 7 out of the final 8 games, but this team has continued to surprise me throughout the season.
What is no longer a surprise: the constant injuries. At this point, when a guy goes down I am totally fine with it, fully expecting him to miss at least a couple of weeks. And the worst part is that players started going down when they were playing really well. Gallo could have easily been trash after missing so much time, but he averaged around 20p during his short return. And now Milos, after playing pretty poorly lately, gets hurt while on pace for his best game as a Clipper.
I hope to live long enough to see an entire season without any major injuries.
What is no longer a surprise: the constant injuries. At this point, when a guy goes down I am totally fine with it, fully expecting him to miss at least a couple of weeks. And the worst part is that players started going down when they were playing really well. Gallo could have easily been trash after missing so much time, but he averaged around 20p during his short return. And now Milos, after playing pretty poorly lately, gets hurt while on pace for his best game as a Clipper.
I hope to live long enough to see an entire season without any major injuries.
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Dynamix wrote:What is no longer a surprise: the constant injuries. At this point, when a guy goes down I am totally fine with it, fully expecting him to miss at least a couple of weeks. And the worst part is that players started going down when they were playing really well. Gallo could have easily been trash after missing so much time, but he averaged around 20p during his short return. And now Milos, after playing pretty poorly lately, gets hurt while on pace for his best game as a Clipper.
I hope to live long enough to see an entire season without any major injuries.
I hate to say it, but the Clippers will never be healthy, this season, the next, or in the distant future. Injuries and freak accidents have been what defined this franchise's shortcomings. The Donald Sterling era only magnified the problem tenfold to the point ACL and Achilles ruptures were common and expected.
I believe the only way the injury curse will ever go away is if the Clippers win the title. They are being challenged by a higher power to triumph with a depleted roster. No team in NBA history has ever won a championship with less than the sum of their parts. Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through. Plus, should Lou Williams win the Sixth Man award, the odds of winning the title are less than 4%. You also have Doc Rivers basically coaching for his life: he fails, and he'll never coach in the NBA again.
It's all about fighting against the odds, if not evening them.
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Wammy Giveaway wrote:Dynamix wrote:What is no longer a surprise: the constant injuries. At this point, when a guy goes down I am totally fine with it, fully expecting him to miss at least a couple of weeks. And the worst part is that players started going down when they were playing really well. Gallo could have easily been trash after missing so much time, but he averaged around 20p during his short return. And now Milos, after playing pretty poorly lately, gets hurt while on pace for his best game as a Clipper.
I hope to live long enough to see an entire season without any major injuries.
I hate to say it, but the Clippers will never be healthy, this season, the next, or in the distant future. Injuries and freak accidents have been what defined this franchise's shortcomings. The Donald Sterling era only magnified the problem tenfold to the point ACL and Achilles ruptures were common and expected.
I believe the only way the injury curse will ever go away is if the Clippers win the title. They are being challenged by a higher power to triumph with a depleted roster. No team in NBA history has ever won a championship with less than the sum of their parts. Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through. Plus, should Lou Williams win the Sixth Man award, the odds of winning the title are less than 4%. You also have Doc Rivers basically coaching for his life: he fails, and he'll never coach in the NBA again.
It's all about fighting against the odds, if not evening them.
Wammy, how do you continue to get away with making these outrageous claims? Lou winning 6th man gives Clips less than 4% chance of winning title? Doc never coaching again(when other teams have obviously been interested)? Where and how do you get these numbers and theories?
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illastrate wrote:Wammy Giveaway wrote:Dynamix wrote:What is no longer a surprise: the constant injuries. At this point, when a guy goes down I am totally fine with it, fully expecting him to miss at least a couple of weeks. And the worst part is that players started going down when they were playing really well. Gallo could have easily been trash after missing so much time, but he averaged around 20p during his short return. And now Milos, after playing pretty poorly lately, gets hurt while on pace for his best game as a Clipper.
I hope to live long enough to see an entire season without any major injuries.
I hate to say it, but the Clippers will never be healthy, this season, the next, or in the distant future. Injuries and freak accidents have been what defined this franchise's shortcomings. The Donald Sterling era only magnified the problem tenfold to the point ACL and Achilles ruptures were common and expected.
I believe the only way the injury curse will ever go away is if the Clippers win the title. They are being challenged by a higher power to triumph with a depleted roster. No team in NBA history has ever won a championship with less than the sum of their parts. Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through. Plus, should Lou Williams win the Sixth Man award, the odds of winning the title are less than 4%. You also have Doc Rivers basically coaching for his life: he fails, and he'll never coach in the NBA again.
It's all about fighting against the odds, if not evening them.
Wammy, how do you continue to get away with making these outrageous claims? Lou winning 6th man gives Clips less than 4% chance of winning title? Doc never coaching again(when other teams have obviously been interested)? Where and how do you get these numbers and theories?
nevermind that part, we all know which dark crevices those infowar worthy ideas come from, but read where he says "Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through" and just wrap your mind around the fact that you only get a finals MVP if you win, and therefore you can only be the winning team if your roster has the finals MVP... then pose for your very best facepalm selfie......
ehhhhh f it.
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Neddy wrote:illastrate wrote:Wammy Giveaway wrote:
I hate to say it, but the Clippers will never be healthy, this season, the next, or in the distant future. Injuries and freak accidents have been what defined this franchise's shortcomings. The Donald Sterling era only magnified the problem tenfold to the point ACL and Achilles ruptures were common and expected.
I believe the only way the injury curse will ever go away is if the Clippers win the title. They are being challenged by a higher power to triumph with a depleted roster. No team in NBA history has ever won a championship with less than the sum of their parts. Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through. Plus, should Lou Williams win the Sixth Man award, the odds of winning the title are less than 4%. You also have Doc Rivers basically coaching for his life: he fails, and he'll never coach in the NBA again.
It's all about fighting against the odds, if not evening them.
Wammy, how do you continue to get away with making these outrageous claims? Lou winning 6th man gives Clips less than 4% chance of winning title? Doc never coaching again(when other teams have obviously been interested)? Where and how do you get these numbers and theories?
nevermind that part, we all know which dark crevices those infowar worthy ideas come from, but read where he says "Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through" and just wrap your mind around the fact that you only get a finals MVP if you win, and therefore you can only be the winning team if your roster has the finals MVP... then pose for your very best facepalm selfie......
The Spurs (Drob, Duncan, Parker, Manu) and Pistons (Rip, Billips, Wallace, Prince) had plenty of all-stars. The finals MVP line had me thinking what?? This team has had more than its share of injuries but they are still alive. Last night was huge. This team and their staff deserve credit. This is almost a totally different team than last season. I really hope they catch a break and find a way in to the playoffs.
I saw Gallo in a practice clip last night. He looked to be shooting great from multiple spots on the court. He was wearing some black support on his hand/wrist area. Hopefully he can come back and help soon.
Any word on Milos? He was looking darn good last night.
My eyes glaze over when reading alternative stat (not advanced stat) narratives that go many paragraphs long. If you can not make your point in 2 paragraphs it may not be a great point. 

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illastrate wrote:Wammy, how do you continue to get away with making these outrageous claims? Lou winning 6th man gives Clips less than 4% chance of winning title? Doc never coaching again(when other teams have obviously been interested)? Where and how do you get these numbers and theories?
Unfortunately, the correlation between sixth man award winners and NBA championships is TRUE.
Here's a chart:
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Year Name Team Result
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1982–83 Bobby Jones Philadelphia 76ers Won Championship
1983–84 Kevin McHale Boston Celtics Won Championship
1984–85 Kevin McHale (2) Boston Celtics Lost Finals
1985–86 Bill Walton Boston Celtics Won Championship
1986–87 Ricky Pierce Milwaukee Bucks 2nd Round Exit
1987–88 Roy Tarpley Dallas Mavericks Lost Conference
1988–89 Eddie Johnson Phoenix Suns Lost Conference
1989–90 Ricky Pierce (2) Milwaukee Bucks 1st Round Exit
1990–91 Detlef Schrempf Indiana Pacers 1st Round Exit
1991–92 Detlef Schrempf (2) Indiana Pacers 1st Round Exit
1992–93 Cliff Robinson Portland Trail Blazers 1st Round Exit
1993–94 Dell Curry Charlotte Hornets Missed Playoffs (9th)
1994–95 Anthony Mason New York Knicks 2nd Round Exit
1995–96 Toni Kukoč Chicago Bulls Won Championship
1996–97 John Starks New York Knicks 2nd Round Exit
1997–98 Danny Manning Phoenix Suns 1st Round Exit
1998–99 Darrell Armstrong Orlando Magic 1st Round Exit
1999–00 Rodney Rogers Phoenix Suns 2nd Round Exit
2000–01 Aaron McKie Philadelphia 76ers Lost Finals
2001–02 Corliss Williamson Detroit Pistons 2nd Round Exit
2002–03 Bobby Jackson Sacramento Kings 2nd Round Exit
2003–04 Antawn Jamison Dallas Mavericks 1st Round Exit
2004–05 Ben Gordon Chicago Bulls 1st Round Exit
2005–06 Mike Miller Memphis Grizzlies 1st Round Exit
2006–07 Leandro Barbosa Phoenix Suns 2nd Round Exit
2007–08 Manu Ginóbili San Antonio Spurs Lost Conference
2008–09 Jason Terry Dallas Mavericks 2nd Round Exit
2009–10 Jamal Crawford Atlanta Hawks 2nd Round Exit
2010–11 Lamar Odom Los Angeles Lakers 2nd Round Exit
2011–12 James Harden Oklahoma City Thunder Lost Finals
2012–13 J. R. Smith New York Knicks 2nd Round Exit
2013–14 Jamal Crawford (2) Los Angeles Clippers 2nd Round Exit
2014–15 Lou Williams Toronto Raptors 1st Round Exit
2015–16 Jamal Crawford (3) Los Angeles Clippers 1st Round Exit
2016–17 Eric Gordon Houston Rockets 2nd Round Exit
Only four teams out of 35 have gone on to win the title backed by a sixth man award winner...
Okay, so I got the percentage wrong (0.04 per me, 0.11 after actual calculations), but still, a very bad record.
Only one team who's won a sixth man missed the playoffs. Clippers could end up becoming the second; by coincidence, the sixth man award winner was also on a 9th seed.
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Wammy Giveaway wrote:illastrate wrote:Wammy, how do you continue to get away with making these outrageous claims? Lou winning 6th man gives Clips less than 4% chance of winning title? Doc never coaching again(when other teams have obviously been interested)? Where and how do you get these numbers and theories?
Unfortunately, the correlation between sixth man award winners and NBA championships is TRUE.
Here's a chart:Code: Select all
Year Name Team Result
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1982–83 Bobby Jones Philadelphia 76ers Won Championship
1983–84 Kevin McHale Boston Celtics Won Championship
1984–85 Kevin McHale (2) Boston Celtics Lost Finals
1985–86 Bill Walton Boston Celtics Won Championship
1986–87 Ricky Pierce Milwaukee Bucks 2nd Round Exit
1987–88 Roy Tarpley Dallas Mavericks Lost Conference
1988–89 Eddie Johnson Phoenix Suns Lost Conference
1989–90 Ricky Pierce (2) Milwaukee Bucks 1st Round Exit
1990–91 Detlef Schrempf Indiana Pacers 1st Round Exit
1991–92 Detlef Schrempf (2) Indiana Pacers 1st Round Exit
1992–93 Cliff Robinson Portland Trail Blazers 1st Round Exit
1993–94 Dell Curry Charlotte Hornets Missed Playoffs (9th)
1994–95 Anthony Mason New York Knicks 2nd Round Exit
1995–96 Toni Kukoč Chicago Bulls Won Championship
1996–97 John Starks New York Knicks 2nd Round Exit
1997–98 Danny Manning Phoenix Suns 1st Round Exit
1998–99 Darrell Armstrong Orlando Magic 1st Round Exit
1999–00 Rodney Rogers Phoenix Suns 2nd Round Exit
2000–01 Aaron McKie Philadelphia 76ers Lost Finals
2001–02 Corliss Williamson Detroit Pistons 2nd Round Exit
2002–03 Bobby Jackson Sacramento Kings 2nd Round Exit
2003–04 Antawn Jamison Dallas Mavericks 1st Round Exit
2004–05 Ben Gordon Chicago Bulls 1st Round Exit
2005–06 Mike Miller Memphis Grizzlies 1st Round Exit
2006–07 Leandro Barbosa Phoenix Suns 2nd Round Exit
2007–08 Manu Ginóbili San Antonio Spurs Lost Conference
2008–09 Jason Terry Dallas Mavericks 2nd Round Exit
2009–10 Jamal Crawford Atlanta Hawks 2nd Round Exit
2010–11 Lamar Odom Los Angeles Lakers 2nd Round Exit
2011–12 James Harden Oklahoma City Thunder Lost Finals
2012–13 J. R. Smith New York Knicks 2nd Round Exit
2013–14 Jamal Crawford (2) Los Angeles Clippers 2nd Round Exit
2014–15 Lou Williams Toronto Raptors 1st Round Exit
2015–16 Jamal Crawford (3) Los Angeles Clippers 1st Round Exit
2016–17 Eric Gordon Houston Rockets 2nd Round Exit
Only four teams out of 35 have gone on to win the title backed by a sixth man award winner...
Okay, so I got the percentage wrong (0.04 per me, 0.11 after actual calculations), but still, a very bad record.
Only one team who's won a sixth man missed the playoffs. Clippers could end up becoming the second; by coincidence, the sixth man award winner was also on a 9th seed.
Correlation does not equal causation. Players on winning teams are often given an edge for the NBA awards and all star spots.
Does an award even matter? How many championships did the Celtics win with Hondo being the clear best 6th man around?
My eyes glaze over when reading alternative stat (not advanced stat) narratives that go many paragraphs long. If you can not make your point in 2 paragraphs it may not be a great point. 

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Neddy wrote:illastrate wrote:Wammy Giveaway wrote:
I hate to say it, but the Clippers will never be healthy, this season, the next, or in the distant future. Injuries and freak accidents have been what defined this franchise's shortcomings. The Donald Sterling era only magnified the problem tenfold to the point ACL and Achilles ruptures were common and expected.
I believe the only way the injury curse will ever go away is if the Clippers win the title. They are being challenged by a higher power to triumph with a depleted roster. No team in NBA history has ever won a championship with less than the sum of their parts. Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through. Plus, should Lou Williams win the Sixth Man award, the odds of winning the title are less than 4%. You also have Doc Rivers basically coaching for his life: he fails, and he'll never coach in the NBA again.
It's all about fighting against the odds, if not evening them.
Wammy, how do you continue to get away with making these outrageous claims? Lou winning 6th man gives Clips less than 4% chance of winning title? Doc never coaching again(when other teams have obviously been interested)? Where and how do you get these numbers and theories?
nevermind that part, we all know which dark crevices those infowar worthy ideas come from, but read where he says "Even the Spurs and 2004 Pistons had at least one All-Star or Finals MVP to carry them through" and just wrap your mind around the fact that you only get a finals MVP if you win, and therefore you can only be the winning team if your roster has the finals MVP... then pose for your very best facepalm selfie......

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illastrate wrote::lol: if you win, you're a winner. Imagine that.
Well, that's the whole point of arguments, right? Try to show up to your fellow peers, "I'm right, you're wrong," Nelson "Ha ha" thing? There's nothing wrong with being snotty, which seems to be the nature of sports conversation. Had my previous argument been proven wrong, I would have been barred from using that topic ever again in future discussions and forced to come up with a different theory to get the respect of guys like you. It's a competition.
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Wammy Giveaway wrote:illastrate wrote::lol: if you win, you're a winner. Imagine that.
Well, that's the whole point of arguments, right? Try to show up to your fellow peers, "I'm right, you're wrong," Nelson "Ha ha" thing? There's nothing wrong with being snotty, which seems to be the nature of sports conversation. Had my previous argument been proven wrong, I would have been barred from using that topic ever again in future discussions and forced to come up with a different theory to get the respect of guys like you. It's a competition.
Fair enough, I respect the fact that you do stay engaged on this forum. Helps keep the conversations going during the dry spells.
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illastrate wrote:Wammy Giveaway wrote:illastrate wrote::lol: if you win, you're a winner. Imagine that.
Well, that's the whole point of arguments, right? Try to show up to your fellow peers, "I'm right, you're wrong," Nelson "Ha ha" thing? There's nothing wrong with being snotty, which seems to be the nature of sports conversation. Had my previous argument been proven wrong, I would have been barred from using that topic ever again in future discussions and forced to come up with a different theory to get the respect of guys like you. It's a competition.
Fair enough, I respect the fact that you do stay engaged on this forum. Helps keep the conversations going during the dry spells.
still does not change the fact that a 'so and so team won their NBA championship in ---- year because they at least had the finals' MVP of that year, on their team to win it' is never gonna pass not even your most common local community college's logic 101 class, let alone the smell test of most sane people with at least an average ability to comprehend a written language. that is not an 'opinion' one may hold against another, that is literally, what is called, academically or not, in fact, a, FACT.
people forget that sometimes. opinions are subjective, logic 101 is not. having the NBA finals MVP as the reason of winning NBA finals, is not a sound argument at any level. you cannot use your outcome as the causality of the premise. one can make an argument that a particular player who happened to win the final's MVP performed at an extraordinarily high level, to give him credit for winning his MVP. Nevertheless, regardless of which individual, if your team wins the NBA finals, there will be a 100% certainty that the finals MVP will come out from your roster and not from the team you just defeated. and once again, regardless which player that might be.
still don't get the point?
ehhhhh f it.
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Neddy wrote:illastrate wrote:
Fair enough, I respect the fact that you do stay engaged on this forum. Helps keep the conversations going during the dry spells.
still does not change the fact that a 'so and so team won their NBA championship in ---- year because they at least had the MVP finals of that year, on their team to win it' is never gonna pass not even your most common local community college's logic 101 class, let alone the smell test of most sane people with at least an average ability to comprehend a written language. that is not an 'opinion' one may hold against another, that is literally, what is called, academically or not, in fact, a, FACT.
people forget that sometimes. opinions are subjective, logic 101 is not. having the NBA finals MVP as the reason of winning NBA finals, is not a sound argument at any level. you cannot use your outcome as the causality of the premise.
I got you bruh, from the first
thought I'd get your back on this
we don't all have to agree on our opinions but when it's a matter of logic we should speak up on behalf of it!
since it almost always goes to the winning team, if you have an NBA Finals MVP it's circular logic to say you can't win it without one

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esqtvd wrote:Neddy wrote:illastrate wrote:
Fair enough, I respect the fact that you do stay engaged on this forum. Helps keep the conversations going during the dry spells.
still does not change the fact that a 'so and so team won their NBA championship in ---- year because they at least had the MVP finals of that year, on their team to win it' is never gonna pass not even your most common local community college's logic 101 class, let alone the smell test of most sane people with at least an average ability to comprehend a written language. that is not an 'opinion' one may hold against another, that is literally, what is called, academically or not, in fact, a, FACT.
people forget that sometimes. opinions are subjective, logic 101 is not. having the NBA finals MVP as the reason of winning NBA finals, is not a sound argument at any level. you cannot use your outcome as the causality of the premise.
I got you bruh, from the first
thought I'd get your back on this
we don't all have to agree on our opinions but when it's a matter of logic we should speak up on behalf of it!
since it almost always goes to the winning team, if you have an NBA Finals MVP it's circular logic to say you can't win it without one
good job.
and,
as for your "almost always", I am not aware of a case when NBA finals' MVP was not from the winning team, but for you to phrase it that way there must have been, so could you elaborate on that subject? I wonder if Larry or Magic ever stoled one from each other, but I can''t remember that from back of my memories.
ehhhhh f it.
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Neddy wrote:esqtvd wrote:Neddy wrote:
still does not change the fact that a 'so and so team won their NBA championship in ---- year because they at least had the MVP finals of that year, on their team to win it' is never gonna pass not even your most common local community college's logic 101 class, let alone the smell test of most sane people with at least an average ability to comprehend a written language. that is not an 'opinion' one may hold against another, that is literally, what is called, academically or not, in fact, a, FACT.
people forget that sometimes. opinions are subjective, logic 101 is not. having the NBA finals MVP as the reason of winning NBA finals, is not a sound argument at any level. you cannot use your outcome as the causality of the premise.
I got you bruh, from the first
thought I'd get your back on this
we don't all have to agree on our opinions but when it's a matter of logic we should speak up on behalf of it!
since it almost always goes to the winning team, if you have an NBA Finals MVP it's circular logic to say you can't win it without one
good job.
and,
as for your "almost always", I am not aware of a case when NBA finals' MVP was not from the winning team, but for you to phrase it that way there must have been, so could you elaborate on that subject? I wonder if Larry or Magic ever stoled one from each other, but I can''t remember that from back of my memories.
It was a "formal" point about logic. Your logic was impeccable. I din't want to undermine it by using "never" or "always" and then getting caught offbase by some argumentative type, so I used "almost always." I've been on the internet a long time. I've seen all their tricks. Dishonest folks argue the exception against the rule.
"Formal" logic has nothing to do with sports trivia. Your argument was formal. No disrespect to Sister illastrate but we cannot agree to disagree when it comes to logic. Or else all is lost.
Rock on, Neddy. Your brain is still dangerously sane.

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Our very own Jerry West did win the first ever Finals MVP in 1969 even though his Lakers lost game 7 to Russell's Celtics, so that 'almost' was technically correct
It was the (edit. first, not best lol) ever Finals MVP award, and they probably still had no idea what to do with it, so the overall point still stands, just thought I'd point it out

It was the (edit. first, not best lol) ever Finals MVP award, and they probably still had no idea what to do with it, so the overall point still stands, just thought I'd point it out
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QRich3 wrote:Our very own Jerry West did win the first ever Finals MVP in 1969 even though his Lakers lost game 7 to Russell's Celtics, so that 'almost' was technically correct![]()
It was the best ever Finals MVP award, and they probably still had no idea what to do with it, so the overall point still stands, just thought I'd point it out
awesome. I learned something new today.
thanks, Q.
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first and only time iirc
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