Marc Stein: Expect Knicks to make coaching change Thursday

Post #201 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:18 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:Ewing is not leaving for the NBA after landing at Georgetown. Why do you people love fantasy so much.

I don't see him as an option but the thought of him yelling at Tim Hardaway's son has a certain poetry to it.

IllmaticHandler · Post #202 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:25 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:Ewing is not leaving for the NBA after landing at Georgetown. Why do you people love fantasy so much.

Interested to hear who you want Ill

Honestly?

I dont know.

Its so many good names. Jay Wright is my fav but he not coming. Seems committed to VU.

I Kinda wanna go the Young College coach route, but not familiar with all the best ones fully
.

NBA retreads Fizz would be at the top of my realistically possible list.

All in all, I want a serious demeanor, hard nose coach. No Nonsense. a mofo to put fear in Knicks players, but who can develop them the right way.

HarthorneWingo · Post #203 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:37 pm

K P 6 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:

Many here wanted him to strictly embrace the tank much earlier than was reasonable. I bitched a little myself in between the trade deadline and the ASG about rotations but not enough to persuade me to fire him at this point in the process.

For sure - you had Hornacek's back more than most.

I'm not even talking tank or no tank. He probably could have been more competitive by being a little more flexible early on.

Guys who possibly wont be here got all the minutes in a rebuilding year. Jeff is not a coach for development and he needs to go period.

Do you really think any other NBA was going to play Dotson, Frank, Willy or Kornet 30-35 mpg to "develop" them? That's not how you develop players.

Post #204 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:40 pm

How could you say without hearing the interview? I would want to hear a very detailed plan for implementing player development. From game management, to how they would advise the offseason, to how they would manage in-season development, to management style, to disciplinary approach, to style of play, to how they would coach once developmental principles have been implemented. Many details. Not necessarily with an outcome in mind but I'd want a coach to have thought it all through.

How could we expect to know that from afar?

Meat · Post #205 » by **Meat** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:44 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:

For sure - you had Hornacek's back more than most.

I'm not even talking tank or no tank. He probably could have been more competitive by being a little more flexible early on.

Guys who possibly wont be here got all the minutes in a rebuilding year. Jeff is not a coach for development and he needs to go period.

Do you really think any other NBA was going to play Dotson, Frank, Willy or Kornet 30-35 mpg to "develop" them? That's not how you develop players.

of course
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/sort/avgPoints/position/rookies

F N 11 · Post #206 » by **F N 11** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:50 pm

Read on Twitter

Still the realest coaching 1 liner ive ever heard. If you have something better please post it.

Spree2Houston · Post #207 » by **Spree2Houston** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:53 pm

Capn'O wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:Ewing is not leaving for the NBA after landing at Georgetown. Why do you people love fantasy so much.

I don't see him as an option but the thought of him yelling at Tim Hardaway's son has a certain poetry to it.

Give him that Oakley/Pippen treatment...."I made your dad my B**CH"

Triple C · Post #208 » by **Triple C** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:53 pm

Read on Twitter

Triple C · Post #209 » by **Triple C** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:54 pm

K P 6 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Still the realest coaching 1 liner ive ever heard. If you have something better please post it.

Watch on YouTube

Knicksfan1992 · Post #210 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:58 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:Ewing is not leaving for the NBA after landing at Georgetown. Why do you people love fantasy so much.

Interested to hear who you want Ill

Honestly?

I dont know.

Its so many good names. Jay Wright is my fav but he not coming. Seems committed to VU.

I Kinda wanna go the Young College coach route, but not familiar with all the best ones fully
.

NBA retreads Fizz would be at the top of my realistically possible list.

All in all, I want a serious demeanor, hard nose coach. No Nonsense. a mofo to put fear in Knicks players, but who can develop them the right way.

I'm with you 100%. Jay Wright would be great. Him and Blatt are tied for my number 1 choice.

F N 11 · Post #211 » by **F N 11** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:16 pm

Triple C wrote:
K P 6 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Still the realest coaching 1 liner ive ever heard. If you have something better please post it.

Watch on YouTube

I highly doubt Hornys time-outs are this detailed

KnicksFTW · Post #212 » by **KnicksFTW** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:22 pm

No one here coming to turn this ship around.

The problem is the roster.

Hornaceck has flaws, the next coach will too, and yah will all scream fire.

We went through 11 head coaches since 2001? Every time we suck we do the same thing....how about trying something different?

No one expects to win next year right? So keep Jeff and assess this next year with a healthy KP.

EchelonNYK · Post #213 » by **EchelonNYK** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:23 pm

It's time for this front office to try something different. I'm tired of all these retreads. Go the college route.

Clyde_Style · Post #214 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:27 pm

Capn'O wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:Ewing is not leaving for the NBA after landing at Georgetown. Why do you people love fantasy so much.

I don't see him as an option but the thought of him yelling at Tim Hardaway's son has a certain poetry to it.

If Patrick became head coach he would have to wear a Jeff Van Gundy shaped ankle bracelet

Post #215 » by **NoLayupRule** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:27 pm

I’m looking forward to this board having a new person to blame everything on and call and idiot after previously praising

SARGO127 · Post #216 » by **SARGO127** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:28 pm

Serious question. Does a HC really matter THAT much?

Let’s get a guy who players love and that will attract FAs. Fizzdale seems like that dude.

whocares1 · Post #217 » by **whocares1** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:29 pm

KnicksFTW wrote:No one here coming to turn this ship around.

The problem is the roster.

Hornaceck has flaws, the next coach will too, and yah will all scream fire.

We went through 11 head coaches since 2001? Every time we suck we do the same thing....how about trying something different?

No one expects to win next year right? So keep Jeff and assess this next year with a healthy KP.

No because if you keep Jeff, he’ll be coaching for his job again. We need a coach that can comfortably choose to develop the team instead of winning.

Post #218 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:31 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:

For sure - you had Hornacek's back more than most.

I'm not even talking tank or no tank. He probably could have been more competitive by being a little more flexible early on.

Guys who possibly wont be here got all the minutes in a rebuilding year. Jeff is not a coach for development and he needs to go period.

Do you really think any other NBA was going to play Dotson, Frank, Willy or Kornet 30-35 mpg to "develop" them? That's not how you develop players.

So what is?

Do you think sitting on the bench and watching garbage vets play ahead of you is how to develop your rookies?

A lot of successful teams felt otherwise. Maybe we should learn a lesson from them.

Post #219 » by **NoLayupRule** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:33 pm

K P 6 wrote:
Triple C wrote:
K P 6 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Still the realest coaching 1 liner ive ever heard. If you have something better please post it.

Watch on YouTube

I highly doubt Hornys time-outs are this detailed

That’s a fascinating video

I believe I’ve heard about this kind of thing before.

I’m under the impression that people call this coaching.

I haven’t seen this in ny since the early 2000s
I hardly recognize it

Post #220 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:33 pm

whocares1 wrote:
KnicksFTW wrote:No one here coming to turn this ship around.

The problem is the roster.

Hornaceck has flaws, the next coach will too, and yah will all scream fire.

We went through 11 head coaches since 2001? Every time we suck we do the same thing....how about trying something different?

No one expects to win next year right? So keep Jeff and assess this next year with a healthy KP.

No because if you keep Jeff, he’ll be coaching for his job again. We need a coach that can comfortably choose to develop the team instead of winning.

What makes you think that’s a coaching decision and not based on a mandate from management?