Political Roundtable Part XIX

gtn130 · Post #1581 » by **gtn130** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:34 pm

John Kelly is probably just another Democrat or something

cammac · Post #1582 » by **cammac** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:58 pm

Sean Simpson a teacher at Marjory Stoneman Douglas School now facing gun charges himself.
My question was he fondling his gun in a locked cubicle before the incident? :lol:

Science teacher Sean Simpson –- who was at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School when 17 people were killed in a mass shooting – told deputies he accidentally left the gun in a stall at the bathroom at the Deerfield Beach Pier during a visit to the beach Sunday. While going back to retrieve it, he heard a gunshot and once back inside the bathroom, saw 69-year-old Joseph Spataro holding the gun. Simpson then snatched the gun out of Spataro's hands, deputies reported.

Simpson, 43, was arrested and charged with failing to safely store a firearm, a second-degree misdemeanor punishable by a maximum of 60 days in jail. He posted a $250 cash bond.
"There was a reasonable likelihood that the firearm could have ended up in the hands of a child or the discharge of the firearm could have wounded another person or child," deputies wrote in the arrest report.

When asked about the prospect raised by President Donald Trump of arming teachers, Simpson seemed open to the idea.

"I know there are some of us that are willing to take the training if it was offered and probably be another line of defense," he said. "But again that is a complicated subject and I'm not sure if it's the answer. I think it's easier to get these types of weapons out of the hands of people that aren't meant to do anything but kill."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/12/1756464/-Gun-trained-Stoneman-Douglas-teacher-facing-charges-after-leaving-his-gun-in-a-public-bathroom
https://www.local10.com/topic/deerfield-beach-pier

Post #1583 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:03 pm

nate33 wrote:Comey was out of control, investigating Trump's cabinet members for the violation of the freaking Logan Act DURING THE TRANSITION. The whole scenario was absurd and you guys would be outraged if the FBI attacked Obama's senior staff in the same way for doing perfectly normal things during the Transition.

Trump supervises Comey. Rosenstein instructed Trump that Comey should be fired because of this overreach so Trump fired him.

Trump also fired Comey for lying to Trump about the subject of whether or not Trump was under investigation.

Comey was incompetent and out of control. He doesn't get permanent job security by opening an investigation of his boss.

Go back a few pages in this thread where I describe in excruciating detail the scams that Manafort is guilty of. That's the sort of thing that was being investigated. If Trump was stupid enough to hire this guy and therefore implicate himself that is his own damn fault, not Comey's.

And Trump himself said that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation and not the lies cooked up by his cronies.

Trump asked over and over again for a public admission that he is not currently under investigation, WHICH COMEY GAVE HIM SEVERAL TIMES. He THEN asked that Comey BREAK THE LAW by promising that he would NEVER be under investigation. Which means that if evidence was provided to Comey that Trump did in fact break the law, he was supposed to promise not to pursue it.

Would you make that promise? I bet you would, wouldn't you Nate? Because the ends justifies the means - it doesn't matter how many crimes your guy commits as long as the brown people get kicked out right? As long as the GOP gets to steal a supreme court seat, anything goes! Trump could personally sell plans of our latest nuclear bombs directly to Putin and you wouldn't care, as long as the billionaires get their tax cuts! All hail supreme leader Trump!

Post #1584 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:09 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
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It wouldn't have mattered. Nobody voted for Trump based on his good character earlier in life. Everyone knows he was a cad who slept around, cheated on his wife and banged hot chicks left and right.

The days of the double standard are over. Nobody is going to listen to liberals get preachy about the character flaws of conservatives while ignoring the character flaws of liberals. Conservatives are no longer going to play by a different set of rules.

Call 911 on that whiplash Nate! Marital infidelity is worth destroying Democracy over if it's a Democrat, but "nobody cares" now because Trump!

So that means we can ignore every moral claim conservatives have made about abortion, because they didn't actually mean any of it? Great! Glad to have that argument over with! Every cloud has a silver lining huh? So Conservatives are going to drop all that insincere folderol about transgender people going to the bathroom of the gender they identify with? Terrific! God, that sure was stupid wasn't it? How can people be so dumb! Ha ha! So that means every time a conservative opens their mouth from now on, we don't have to believe it because political expediency will probably cause them to change their mind six months from now? Man, that makes political discourse so much easier now! Just don't believe ANYTHING a conservative says!

JWizmentality · Post #1585 » by **JWizmentality** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:40 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
nate33 wrote:Comey was out of control, investigating Trump's cabinet members for the violation of the freaking Logan Act DURING THE TRANSITION. The whole scenario was absurd and you guys would be outraged if the FBI attacked Obama's senior staff in the same way for doing perfectly normal things during the Transition.

Trump supervises Comey. Rosenstein instructed Trump that Comey should be fired because of this overreach so Trump fired him.

Trump also fired Comey for lying to Trump about the subject of whether or not Trump was under investigation.

Comey was incompetent and out of control. He doesn't get permanent job security by opening an investigation of his boss.

Go back a few pages in this thread where I describe in excruciating detail the scams that Manafort is guilty of. That's the sort of thing that was being investigated. If Trump was stupid enough to hire this guy and therefore implicate himself that is his own damn fault, not Comey's.

And Trump himself said that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation and not the lies cooked up by his cronies.

Trump asked over and over again for a public admission that he is not currently under investigation, WHICH COMEY GAVE HIM SEVERAL TIMES. He THEN asked that Comey BREAK THE LAW by promising that he would NEVER be under investigation. Which means that if evidence was provided to Comey that Trump did in fact break the law, he was supposed to promise not to pursue it.

Would you make that promise? I bet you would, wouldn't you Nate? Because the ends justifies the means - it doesn't matter how many crimes your guy commits as long as the brown people get kicked out right? As long as the GOP gets to steal a supreme court seat, anything goes! Trump could personally sell plans of our latest nuclear bombs directly to Putin and you wouldn't care, as long as the billionaires get their tax cuts! All hail supreme leader Trump!

This +1000000

Nate admitted that himself when the Access Hollywood tape came out. I still remember his post where he said this looks bad conservatives but still vote for him because we need that Supreme Court pick. It's all about the ends justifies the means. Especially with the Christian right. All hypocrites.

JWizmentality · Post #1586 » by **JWizmentality** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:58 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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It wouldn't have mattered. Nobody voted for Trump based on his good character earlier in life. Everyone knows he was a cad who slept around, cheated on his wife and banged hot chicks left and right.

The days of the double standard are over. Nobody is going to listen to liberals get preachy about the character flaws of conservatives while ignoring the character flaws of liberals. Conservatives are no longer going to play by a different set of rules.

Liberals get preachy?? Lol :lol:

Cuz we're the party of family values. :roll:

Post #1587 » by **nate33** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:07 pm

JWizmentality wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
nate33 wrote:Comey was out of control, investigating Trump's cabinet members for the violation of the freaking Logan Act DURING THE TRANSITION. The whole scenario was absurd and you guys would be outraged if the FBI attacked Obama's senior staff in the same way for doing perfectly normal things during the Transition.

Trump supervises Comey. Rosenstein instructed Trump that Comey should be fired because of this overreach so Trump fired him.

Trump also fired Comey for lying to Trump about the subject of whether or not Trump was under investigation.

Comey was incompetent and out of control. He doesn't get permanent job security by opening an investigation of his boss.

Go back a few pages in this thread where I describe in excruciating detail the scams that Manafort is guilty of. That's the sort of thing that was being investigated. If Trump was stupid enough to hire this guy and therefore implicate himself that is his own damn fault, not Comey's.

And Trump himself said that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation and not the lies cooked up by his cronies.

Trump asked over and over again for a public admission that he is not currently under investigation, WHICH COMEY GAVE HIM SEVERAL TIMES. He THEN asked that Comey BREAK THE LAW by promising that he would NEVER be under investigation. Which means that if evidence was provided to Comey that Trump did in fact break the law, he was supposed to promise not to pursue it.

Would you make that promise? I bet you would, wouldn't you Nate? Because the ends justifies the means - it doesn't matter how many crimes your guy commits as long as the brown people get kicked out right? As long as the GOP gets to steal a supreme court seat, anything goes! Trump could personally sell plans of our latest nuclear bombs directly to Putin and you wouldn't care, as long as the billionaires get their tax cuts! All hail supreme leader Trump!

This +1000000

Nate admitted that himself when the Access Hollywood tape came out. I still remember his post where he said this looks bad conservatives but still vote for him because we need that Supreme Court pick. It's all about the ends justifies the means. Especially with the Christian right. All hypocrites.

Not hypocrites. Just following the lead of Democrats.

JWizmentality · Post #1588 » by **JWizmentality** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:10 pm

nate33 wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
Go back a few pages in this thread where I describe in excruciating detail the scams that Manafort is guilty of. That's the sort of thing that was being investigated. If Trump was stupid enough to hire this guy and therefore implicate himself that is his own damn fault, not Comey's.

And Trump himself said that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation and not the lies cooked up by his cronies.

Trump asked over and over again for a public admission that he is not currently under investigation, WHICH COMEY GAVE HIM SEVERAL TIMES. He THEN asked that Comey BREAK THE LAW by promising that he would NEVER be under investigation. Which means that if evidence was provided to Comey that Trump did in fact break the law, he was supposed to promise not to pursue it.

Would you make that promise? I bet you would, wouldn't you Nate? Because the ends justifies the means - it doesn't matter how many crimes your guy commits as long as the brown people get kicked out right? As long as the GOP gets to steal a supreme court seat, anything goes! Trump could personally sell plans of our latest nuclear bombs directly to Putin and you wouldn't care, as long as the billionaires get their tax cuts! All hail supreme leader Trump!

This +1000000

Nate admitted that himself when the Access Hollywood tape came out. I still remember his post where he said this looks bad conservatives but still vote for him because we need that Supreme Court pick. It's all about the ends justifies the means. Especially with the Christian right. All hypocrites.

Not hypocrites. Just following the lead of Democrats.

Whatever dude. See you in November.

cammac · Post #1589 » by **cammac** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:41 pm

Has Spanky MacTrump ever made a decision that he stuck with that excludes never wearing a condom!

"President Trump on Thursday instructed top administration officials to explore re-entering the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) — a trade pact he pulled the U.S. out of last year while calling it a “disaster.”

Unfortunately that boat has likely sailed in that with Trumps record on tariffs many of the countries would be reluctant in dealing with him. I'm not sure how Japan & S. Korea would feel about it as well as Canada & Mexico with Robert Lighthizer's heavy hand in the NAFTA negotiations. Canada took it's time in protecting key industries in the some sectors and they were the last to sign onto the TPP.

But in typical fashion "Bluster Without Brains" screwed the pooch pissing off other countries.But then again it could just be another brain fart by the Trumpster.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382867-trump-orders-officials-to-look-into-re-entering-tpp-trade-pact

Wizardspride · Post #1590 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:12 pm

Read on Twitter

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Read on Twitter

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Wizardspride · Post #1591 » by **Wizardspride** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:35 am

Read on Twitter

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verbal8 · Post #1592 » by **verbal8** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:38 am

EITC
Living wage
Parental/Family leave
Expanding health insurance
Obama vs Trump

I think the liberals can legitimately claim family values

JWizmentality wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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It wouldn't have mattered. Nobody voted for Trump based on his good character earlier in life. Everyone knows he was a cad who slept around, cheated on his wife and banged hot chicks left and right.

The days of the double standard are over. Nobody is going to listen to liberals get preachy about the character flaws of conservatives while ignoring the character flaws of liberals. Conservatives are no longer going to play by a different set of rules.

Liberals get preachy?? Lol

Cuz we're the party of family values.

JWizmentality · Post #1593 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:54 am

verbal8 wrote:EITC
Living wage
Parental/Family leave
Expanding health insurance
Obama vs Trump

I think the liberals can legitimately claim family values

JWizmentality wrote:
nate33 wrote:
It wouldn't have mattered. Nobody voted for Trump based on his good character earlier in life. Everyone knows he was a cad who slept around, cheated on his wife and banged hot chicks left and right.

The days of the double standard are over. Nobody is going to listen to liberals get preachy about the character flaws of conservatives while ignoring the character flaws of liberals. Conservatives are no longer going to play by a different set of rules.

Liberals get preachy?? Lol

Cuz we're the party of family values.

Socialist

Post #1594 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:55 am

cammac wrote:Sean Simpson a teacher at Marjory Stoneman Douglas School now facing gun charges himself.
My question was he fondling his gun in a locked cubicle before the incident?
Science teacher Sean Simpson –- who was at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School when 17 people were killed in a mass shooting – told deputies he accidentally left the gun in a stall at the bathroom at the Deerfield Beach Pier during a visit to the beach Sunday. While going back to retrieve it, he heard a gunshot and once back inside the bathroom, saw 69-year-old Joseph Spataro holding the gun. Simpson then snatched the gun out of Spataro's hands, deputies reported.

Simpson, 43, was arrested and charged with failing to safely store a firearm, a second-degree misdemeanor punishable by a maximum of 60 days in jail. He posted a $250 cash bond.

When asked about the prospect raised by President Donald Trump of arming teachers, Simpson seemed open to the idea.

"I know there are some of us that are willing to take the training if it was offered and probably be another line of defense," he said. "But again that is a complicated subject and I'm not sure if it's the answer. I think it's easier to get these types of weapons out of the hands of people that aren't meant to do anything but kill."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/12/1756464/-Gun-trained-Stoneman-Douglas-teacher-facing-charges-after-leaving-his-gun-in-a-public-bathroom
https://www.local10.com/topic/deerfield-beach-pier

We need more guns in schools!!!

I mean... have people always been this stupid?

Wizardspride · Post #1595 » by **Wizardspride** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:33 am

Read on Twitter

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cammac · Post #1596 » by **cammac** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:13 am

Is Nate a Republican from South Dakota?
It really sounds like him and what he would do if he was a Representative in the House.

In the recording, he says, “And then all that has to happen is that there will be one more terrorist attack between now and then and I will be the, just by the Trump effect, I will be the candidate. That’s the way I look at it.”

Before writing this story, KELO.com News asked Tapio about the provenience of the tape, whether it was taken out of context, and any other reaction he might have. Rather than responding directly to KELO.com News, Tapio posted his reply—and the audio—to his Facebook campaign page Saturday afternoon.

In his response on Facebook, Tapio said. “First, I would like to thank the person who secretly recorded a private conversation with me and sent it to the press.” Tapio also noted, “Where the hell do you think this hateful and deadly ideology comes from? Does it come simply by accident? Or from a few extremists who “misinterpret” the true Islam?”
His legislative activity has largely matched his colorful rhetoric. In 2018, Tapio was the prime sponsor of five legislative proposals, two of which were anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant:

SB 200: a bill to “suspend all direct or indirect resettlement of refugees and refuse to accept chain migration into South Dakota” and
SCR 13: a legislatively non-binding resolution asking the U.S Departments of Homeland Security and Justice to declare “Sharia Law” as “the root cause of the global war on terrorism.” In 2017, he was the prime sponsor of only one legislative proposal — another non-binding resolution commending President Donald Trump for “his commitment to keeping the country safe from radical Islamic terrorism.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/12/1756614/-Republican-candidate-caught-on-tape-explaining-how-he-s-banking-on-terrorist-attack-to-help-him-win