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The Draft (Postseason Edition): 1/16/31/59 (NEW POLL)

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Who do you want us to draft?

Ayton
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Doncic
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Re: The Draft (Postseason Edition): Top 4/16/31/59 

Post#201 » by King4Day » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:55 am

TheLogician wrote:
thamadkant wrote:
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You're just being daft. Ayton is much better than Jackson Jr. and would be a better fit on the Suns.



And you can't read properly.

Pick 3 And 4 is what is being discussed when mentioning JJJ.


No, you can't. Go back and read the post. Mulhollanddrive suggested Jackson Jr. is comparable statistically to Ayton and Bagley.


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Post#202 » by Saberestar » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:09 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Then the question is why hasn't any NBA prospect in Europe done similar before age 23?

Different era and context.

Right now every european young player with high potential is in the NBA already. Players like Luwawu are in the NBA.

The NBA have now A LOT of more players in the league. Every team have 17 players, in the past they have only 13.

Sooo, there are around 120 more players in the league, and a lot of them are players that could have been playing in Europe if not for this new era in the NBA.

G-League have talented players too that want to stay close to the NBA because they know that they could have an opportunity because of injuries, changes,....so those players are out of the EuroLeague too. The talent's pool in Europe is worst than ever.

Doncic is really good but he is having such a good season because the level of competition is really low in Europe now and Sergio Llul is out for the season.

I like him and I have him #3 in my big board, but I am not "that" impressed by him.

He is really good, but comparing him with Larry Bird or saying that his floor is Ginobili it is too much IMO. Way too much.
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Post#203 » by gaspar » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:36 pm

juanc wrote:Today at 8:15 pm(CET- central european timezone) real is playing vs Panathinaikos. It's the 1st game of the euroleague playoffs. Pao has a very athletic team led by former NBA player Calathes(who is having the best season of his carer) Mike James

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Post#204 » by juanc » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:53 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Then the question is why hasn't any NBA prospect in Europe done similar before age 23?

Different era and context.

Right now every european young player with high potential is in the NBA already. Players like Luwawu are in the NBA.

The NBA have now A LOT of more players in the league. Every team have 17 players, in the past they have only 13.

Sooo, there are around 120 more players in the league, and a lot of them are players that could have been playing in Europe if not for this new era in the NBA.

G-League have talented players too that want to stay close to the NBA because they know that they could have an opportunity because of injuries, changes,....so those players are out of the EuroLeague too. The talent's pool in Europe is worst than ever.

Doncic is really good but he is having such a good season because the level of competition is really low in Europe now and Sergio Llul is out for the season.

I like him and I have him #3 in my big board, but I am not "that" impressed by him.

He is really good, but comparing him with Larry Bird or saying that his floor is Ginobili it is too much IMO. Way too much.

Euroleague has never been more competetive and tougher than it is now.. And yes Calathes has had the best season of his life and has a team that suits him well.

If it wasn't for Doncic, Real would have no chance against Pao. And thats the difference. Stats don't do him justice. When he plays Real is a better team, but when he has a good game he is able to win it all by himself..

Abot mike james, he played 8 games in euroleague if I'm not wrong, so it's still Calathes who has been tue main guy for them if you are looking at the whole season
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Post#205 » by Damkac » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:02 pm

Saberestar wrote:
juanc wrote:Today at 8:15 pm(CET- central european timezone) real is playing vs Panathinaikos. It's the 1st game of the euroleague playoffs. Pao has a very athletic team led by former NBA player Calathes(who is having the best season of his carer)

This is why I am not superhigh about Doncic...

Calathes is a borderline NBA player and he is averaging 14.2 points, 8.1 assists, 3.9 rebounds and 1.8 steals in EuroLeague.

I know that he is a veteran and Doncic is only 19 and bla bla bla...but the level of competition is not strong.

What would be Calathes stats if he would play in NCAA now? Pretty great I guess.

And that is where all the other prospects play.
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Post#206 » by King4Day » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:18 pm

Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.
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Post#207 » by Bob8 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:20 pm

@saberestar

I just can’t wait to see Doncic in Nba and takes ROY award. ;)
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Post#208 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:54 pm

That rosterbation depends on Walker and Leonard committing to 6 years with the worst team in the league instead of having their of choice of team in 12 months.
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Post#209 » by BobbieL » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:59 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.


The first trade with Charlotte- that's been my trade for a few weeks now. Hell, I am on record of even adding Zeller for chandler. As that would totally clear up the Hornets cap space. In fact - I think this deal has the best chance of happening - it makes sense for both side

As for Kawhi trade - WAY WAY WaY WAY WaY too much. Too many assets goin to San Antonio. Way too many - let another team deal with that

I truly think I would be happy with the core of Booker, Jackson and the top pick == plus the Kemba trade; maybe adding a Dedmon, Mbah Moute or Barton with the cap space and calling it. And filling out yoru roster with Bender , Dragic, Williams, Shaq, Knight

That is a lot for Kawhi and the cap is done
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Post#210 » by Waylay13 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:03 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.


And what happens when Kawhi quits on the Suns like he has the Spurs? The word leaking out is that Kawhi wants to go to a big market where he can make more money on endorsement deals. Since Phoenix is not a major market, how are we going to deal with it when he is on the hook for $25 million and have a player who wont show up? Oh and we get to watch the Spurs with their new Kawhi named Josh Jackson and a bunch of our draft picks while we drive ourselves back into the lottery with no draft picks to pull us out. Thanks but no thanks on anything to do with the quitter.
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Post#211 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:16 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.


I would HATE this. HATE HATE HATE.

Josh Jackson is a Sun. Just keep it together. Don't overpay everyone to take a moonshot just to celebrate Devin Booker's turning 21.

Can we wait to pull off desperation moves until we're closer to the end of this arc? Does anyone really think the assets we're sending out will decline in value, or that the assets we're receiving won't??

PLS no.
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Post#212 » by Fo-Real » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:49 pm

Waiting to see what the lotto balls tell me.
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Post#213 » by BobbieL » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:49 pm

Waylay13 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.


And what happens when Kawhi quits on the Suns like he has the Spurs? The word leaking out is that Kawhi wants to go to a big market where he can make more money on endorsement deals. Since Phoenix is not a major market, how are we going to deal with it when he is on the hook for $25 million and have a player who wont show up? Oh and we get to watch the Spurs with their new Kawhi named Josh Jackson and a bunch of our draft picks while we drive ourselves back into the lottery with no draft picks to pull us out. Thanks but no thanks on anything to do with the quitter.


I agree - that is way too many assets to give up for Kawhi. That's more than what the Suns gave up for Barkley. Let some other team deal with Kawhi and the Spurs.

Be smart --I like the Kemba deal as outlined in that article - would be an excellent use of cap space. Warren/Daniels/Dudley would be about 23m for Walker and Williams at around 26m. The Suns would than have about 12m of cap space if Len Peters Payton and Ulis are renounced/waived. With that money - can possibly sign Barton and Mbah Moute if the pick is Ayton. If the pick is Doncic - would harder to say because Dedmon would be redundant with Chandler and Williams and would probably need to move Tyson to make that work cap wise

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Post#214 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:54 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Waylay13 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.


And what happens when Kawhi quits on the Suns like he has the Spurs? The word leaking out is that Kawhi wants to go to a big market where he can make more money on endorsement deals. Since Phoenix is not a major market, how are we going to deal with it when he is on the hook for $25 million and have a player who wont show up? Oh and we get to watch the Spurs with their new Kawhi named Josh Jackson and a bunch of our draft picks while we drive ourselves back into the lottery with no draft picks to pull us out. Thanks but no thanks on anything to do with the quitter.


I agree - that is way too many assets to give up for Kawhi. That's more than what the Suns gave up for Barkley. Let some other team deal with Kawhi and the Spurs.

Be smart --I like the Kemba deal as outlined in that article - would be an excellent use of cap space. Warren/Daniels/Dudley would be about 23m for Walker and Williams at around 26m. The Suns would than have about 12m of cap space if Len Peters Payton and Ulis are renounced/waived. With that money - can possibly sign Barton and Mbah Moute if the pick is Ayton. If the pick is Doncic - would harder to say because Dedmon would be redundant with Chandler and Williams and would probably need to move Tyson to make that work cap wise

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator


Personally, I think the odds of JJ being as good or better than Kawhi five years from now is high. I love the kid. I wouldn't trade JJ for Kawhi straight up. My opinion would be different if we were GSW, HOU, OKC, CLE, all of which are designed to be competitive now. We should desire to be competitive over the course of the next 10-15 seasons with this crew.

Ain't nothing better than a superstar you draft yourself. The world is full of uncertainties, but you don't get a chance to draft guys like JJ all that often. We need to take advantage of that opportunity by making him - and Booker - Suns for life.
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Post#215 » by MathiasPW » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:00 pm

I don't care if it is too much for Leonard. If you can get him, you just do it, him being medically cleared. That team would be powerful and competitive from day one, with 3 clutch players who can score when it matters and enough offensive and defensive balance and depth.

I think it's a pipe dream, though.
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Post#216 » by Waylay13 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:03 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Waylay13 wrote:
And what happens when Kawhi quits on the Suns like he has the Spurs? The word leaking out is that Kawhi wants to go to a big market where he can make more money on endorsement deals. Since Phoenix is not a major market, how are we going to deal with it when he is on the hook for $25 million and have a player who wont show up? Oh and we get to watch the Spurs with their new Kawhi named Josh Jackson and a bunch of our draft picks while we drive ourselves back into the lottery with no draft picks to pull us out. Thanks but no thanks on anything to do with the quitter.


I agree - that is way too many assets to give up for Kawhi. That's more than what the Suns gave up for Barkley. Let some other team deal with Kawhi and the Spurs.

Be smart --I like the Kemba deal as outlined in that article - would be an excellent use of cap space. Warren/Daniels/Dudley would be about 23m for Walker and Williams at around 26m. The Suns would than have about 12m of cap space if Len Peters Payton and Ulis are renounced/waived. With that money - can possibly sign Barton and Mbah Moute if the pick is Ayton. If the pick is Doncic - would harder to say because Dedmon would be redundant with Chandler and Williams and would probably need to move Tyson to make that work cap wise

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator


Personally, I think the odds of JJ being as good or better than Kawhi five years from now is high. I love the kid. I wouldn't trade JJ for Kawhi straight up. My opinion would be different if we were GSW, HOU, OKC, CLE, all of which are designed to be competitive now. We should desire to be competitive over the course of the next 10-15 seasons with this crew.

Ain't nothing better than a superstar you draft yourself. The world is full of uncertainties, but you don't get a chance to draft guys like JJ all that often. We need to take advantage of that opportunity by making him - and Booker - Suns for life.


I dont know if JJ will be as good as Kawhi was at his best but one thing I can say for certain is that he is going to be a damn good player for the Suns for a very long time if we dont throw him away in some worthless short term attempt to get a damaged super star.
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Post#217 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:18 pm

MathiasPW wrote:I don't care if it is too much for Leonard. If you can get him, you just do it, him being medically cleared. That team would be powerful and competitive from day one, with 3 clutch players who can score when it matters and enough offensive and defensive balance and depth.

I think it's a pipe dream, though.


Short cuts will leave you just short of a championship. Or multiple, depending on how JJ turns out.

Just keep JJ and spend the additional $20 million difference in their salaries on another player.

JJ is a SUN. Kawhi is not, even if he does make a pit-stop here mid-way through his pursuit of a great shoe deal.

... FWIW, I don't think Kawhi would approve a trade here in part because we're not a huge market, but in larger part because he would never be a bigger star here than Devin. I'm glad this is a pipe dream.
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Post#218 » by bwgood77 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:18 pm

I don't know if anyone posted this yet...Givony's latest mock...

Spoiler:
1. Phoenix Suns
Deandre Ayton
Arizona
Age: 19.7
C


Height: 7-foot | Weight: 243

Ayton was beginning to answer some of the questions scouts have had about him since high school with a string of dominant performances down the stretch before he finished the season on a poor note in an early NCAA tournament exit. Physically, he's one of the most gifted prospects we've seen in the draft in the past few years, and he has impressive skill level to boot.

Phoenix, the worst defensive team in the NBA, will be right to question Ayton's impact on that end of the floor, but his sheer productivity and overall talent level make it difficult to not slot him at the top of this class.

Starting salary: $8,095,680

2. Memphis Grizzlies
Luka Doncic
Real Madrid
Age: 19.1
PG


Height: 6-foot-8 | Weight: 228

Doncic hit a wall in early March after playing 17 straight months without a break for Real Madrid and the Slovenian national team. A two-and-a-half-week break might help rejuvenate him as Real Madrid approaches the final three months of the season and Doncic attempts to re-establish his candidacy as the potential No. 1 pick in the draft.

Considering their aging core, financial woes and precarious ownership situation, the Grizzlies will likely be looking to return to playoff contention as quickly as possible. Doncic would be a dream selection for the Grizzlies because he has the size, skill and versatility to fit in well alongside all their existing talent while possessing star potential in his own right.

Starting salary: $7,243,440

3. Atlanta Hawks
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Michigan State
Age: 18.5
PF/C


Height: 6-foot-11 | Weight: 240

The Hawks will be in best-player-available mode, but it helps to be able to complement their existing roster with a building block that fits with the surrounding talent. Jackson would be the ideal big man to pair with promising rookie John Collins.

The youngest projected first-rounder, Jackson might have the highest ceiling in terms of his ability to affect the game on both ends of the floor. He has enviable physical tools, including a 7-foot-4 wingspan and tremendous mobility. Jackson's ability to space the floor (40 percent from 3 and 80 percent from the line), block shots (5.7 per 40 minutes), switch on every screen and, increasingly, put the ball on the floor from the perimeter makes him an ideal fit for the modern NBA.

Starting salary: $6,504,600

4. Orlando Magic
Marvin Bagley III
Duke
Age: 19.0
PF/C


Height: 6-foot-11 | Weight: 234

Although there are some positional concerns regarding Bagley and his fit in the modern NBA, at some point, his talent and sheer production are likely too great to pass on.

Although the Magic could very well be in the market for a point guard, there are questions about whether any guard is worthy of being picked this high. Bagley is likely best suited for the center spot, and his scoring instincts, rebounding prowess and athleticism would make for an interesting fit alongside Aaron Gordon and Jonathan Isaac.

Starting salary: $5,864,640

5. Dallas Mavericks
Mohamed Bamba
Texas
Age: 19.9
C


Height: 7-foot | Weight: 207

With Nerlens Noel unlikely to be in Dallas' long-term plans and Dirk Nowitzki turning 40 in June, the Mavs will definitely be looking for a frontcourt player to build around.

Bamba's rare combination of length, shot-blocking instincts and offensive promise gives him one of highest ceilings of any prospect in this draft. Every team in the NBA is looking for a big man who can anchor a defense.

Starting salary: $5,310,720

6. Sacramento Kings
Wendell Carter Jr.
Duke
Age: 18.9
C


Height: 6-foot-10 | Weight: 259

None of the Kings' big men has emerged as a franchise cornerstone at this stage, meaning it would be foolish to pass on a top-tier talent due to positional concerns.

Carter's basketball IQ and versatility are promising in a number of ways. He is a physically mature big man with a 259-pound frame and a 7-foot-3 wingspan, which will allow him to play the center position in the NBA with ease.

He is a polished player with excellent hands and touch around the basket, and he has demonstrated a nice blend of passing, shot-blocking and perimeter shooting, despite being overshadowed at times by fellow big man Marvin Bagley III.

Starting salary: $4,823,520

7. Chicago Bulls
Trae Young
Oklahoma
Age: 19.5
PG


Height: 6-foot-2 | Weight: 176

Kris Dunn has had a breakout season for the Bulls, but he could certainly use some backcourt help due to his inconsistent jump shot and shaky decision-making.

Young looks like a nice backcourt pairing, with his ability to navigate pick-and-rolls, make shots off the dribble and find the open man with impressive creativity. Having the luxury of hiding him defensively will be a key to his early success, and Dunn can defend either guard spot.

Starting salary: $4,403,280

8. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Nets)
Michael Porter Jr.
Missouri
Age: 19.7
SF/PF


Height: 6-foot-10 | Weight: 214

With an uncertain future on the horizon due to LeBron James' free agency, the Cavs will need to stockpile as much talent as they can, regardless of their hopes of keeping the King at home.

Porter came into the season with hope of making a run at being the No. 1 pick in the draft. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to build his case because of a back injury. Porter's size, shot-creation skill and scoring instincts will nevertheless make him a coveted prospect next June. He is a playmaker on both ends of the floor and is just starting to figure out how to put his talent to full use.

Starting salary: $4,033,800

Cleveland will receive Brooklyn's first-round pick unprotected.

9. New York Knicks
Collin Sexton
Alabama
Age: 19.2
PG


Height: 6-foot-2 | Weight: 183

Frank Ntilikina has had some nice rookie moments, but the Knicks are finding out that the long-armed, 6-foot-5 guard seems better suited playing alongside a more dominant ball handler and shot creator who can take some of the scoring responsibilities off his shoulders.

Enter Sexton, with his tremendous aggressiveness driving the lane, taking off-the-dribble jumpers and putting defensive pressure on opposing guards. NBA teams have some concerns about Sexton's decision-making and reckless style of play. Fiercely competitive, Sexton has shown enough flashes in the right areas to be comfortably projected as a starting-caliber point guard with plenty of upside to grow into.

Starting salary: $3,708,120

10. Philadelphia 76ers (via Lakers)
Mikal Bridges
Villanova
Age: 21.6
SF


Height: 6-foot-7 | Weight: 200

The 76ers have gotten great production out of J.J. Redick and Marco Belinelli, but with both players approaching free agency and their mid-30s, it makes sense to think about drafting a wing who can complement the building blocks of Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons and Markelle Fultz.

Bridges is an easy player to slot on almost any NBA roster, thanks to his multipositional defensive versatility, 3-point shooting and role player potential. He isn't as gifted a shot creator as you'd like from a top-10 pick, but on this roster, he won't need to be.

Starting salary: $3,522,480

Philadelphia will receive the Lakers' pick if it lands at No. 1 or Nos. 6-30. Otherwise, the pick goes to Boston.

11. Charlotte Hornets
Miles Bridges
Michigan State
Age: 20.0
SF/PF


Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 226

Charlotte continues to search for long-term solutions at both forward positions and will likely look to add athleticism to what has become a fairly disappointing roster.

Bridges is a freakish athlete who struggled at times to make the full-time transition to small forward, but he undoubtedly has potential as a two-way forward who can guard all over the floor and give you enough shooting, ballhandling and passing to get by at one of the most important positions in today's NBA.

Starting salary: $3,346,560

12. LA Clippers (via Pistons)

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Kentucky
Age: 19.7
PG/SG


Height: 6-foot-6 | Weight: 171

The Clippers could very well be looking at point guard as a position in need of supplementing, and the size, length and versatility of Gilgeous-Alexander could be very attractive, considering the type of lineup flexibility he brings.

He is 6-foot-6 with a 7-foot wingspan, highly instinctual defensively and he brings the unselfishness needed to operate alongside a variety of guards, making him an easy player to slot in alongside virtually any type of running mate. His offense made significant strides as the season moved on, helping him surprisingly emerge as arguably Kentucky's best top long-term prospect.

Starting salary: $3,179,280

The Clippers will receive Detroit's pick if it falls outside the top four.

13. LA Clippers
Robert Williams
Texas A&M
Age: 20.4
PF/C


Height: 6-foot-10 | Weight: 237

Williams reminded everyone why he was such a highly touted prospect entering the season with an impressive run to finish the year, helping Texas A&M reach the Sweet 16.

Despite playing out of position all season, he showed that his game is tailor-made for the NBA as a rim-running, pick-and-roll-finishing, shot-blocker/offensive rebounder in the Clint Capela mold. With DeAndre Jordan in the final year of his contract, the Clippers could certainly look to Williams as a potential successor.

Starting salary: $3,020,280

14. Denver Nuggets
Lonnie Walker IV
Miami
Age: 19.3
SG


Height: 6-foot-4 | Weight: 206

Walker didn't have a consistent or efficient freshman season, but his talent, combined with the lack of depth at his position, is keeping his name in the top-20 conversation. His youth, strong frame, 6-foot-10½ wingspan and ability to shoot with his feet set or off the dribble make him a candidate to rise during the pre-draft process as teams search for upside and diamonds in the rough.

The Nuggets' wing rotation is a major work in progress and could certainly use some more shooting, length and perimeter-defensive prowess.

Starting salary: $2,869,320

15. Washington Wizards
Kevin Knox
Kentucky
Age: 18.6
SF/PF


Height: 6-foot-9 | Weight: 205

With Markieff Morris approaching the final year of his contract, the Wizards could very well start thinking of supplemeting their power forward position with a player who fits the modern game.

Knox didn't have an efficient freshman season, partially due to his playing out of position, but there's a significant market in the NBA for combo forwards in his mold who can make an open shot, defend multiple positions and offer some offensive versatility. He's one of the youngest players in this draft, so he still has plenty of room to grow.

Starting salary: $2,725,680

16. Phoenix Suns (via Heat)
Zhaire Smith
Texas Tech
Age: 18.8
SF


Height: 6-foot-5 | Weight: 195

Phoenix could look to continue to add length, athleticism and energy on the defensive end of the floor with the long-armed and explosive Smith.

Originally expected to be more of a 2019 draft candidate, Smith accelerated that timeline by helping Texas Tech reach the Elite 8 and has already announced that he will be testing the NBA waters. Smith needs to continue to develop his ballhandling and perimeter shooting, but he's one of the best athletes in this draft, and his trajectory as a prospect suggests he has considerable upside left.

Starting salary: $2,589,480

Phoenix will receive Miami's pick if it is outside the top seven.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/23084216/2018-nba-mock-draft-teams-deandre-ayton-luka-doncic-marvin-bagley-trae-young
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Re: The Draft (Postseason Edition): Top 4/16/31/59 

Post#219 » by jeff2020 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:23 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.


Literally do that in a second. If you are able to get Leonard and he's medically cleared you absolutely positively 100% do it. That team competes for a ring year in and year and isn't that what you want? If you don't and want to sit around and hope all your draft picks pan out well then you're just gonna be in for a lot of miserable seasons. Most picks don't turn into all stars. It's a crap shoot no matter how well you scout. If you can get proven players you do it especially a top 10 player in the league. We have acquired all these assets for a reason so now it's time to use them not play scared. Pull the trigger if the option is there!
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Re: The Draft (Postseason Edition): Top 4/16/31/59 

Post#220 » by Waylay13 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:30 pm

jeff2020 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Anyone see this?

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2018/4/16/17241230/how-the-phoenix-suns-can-accelerate-their-rebuild-with-a-playoff-berth-next-season-booker-nba-column

I've been telling friends that this would be possible.
Problems would be that we're lose ALL of our assets and would have to be ready to commit a TON of money to these guys.
I'd tell Sarver, you are going to pay a boatload in luxury tax but it could lead to a ring.


Literally do that in a second. If you are able to get Leonard and he's medically cleared you absolutely positively 100% do it. That team competes for a ring year in and year and isn't that what you want? If you don't and want to sit around and hope all your draft picks pan out well then you're just gonna be in for a lot of miserable seasons. Most picks don't turn into all stars. It's a crap shoot no matter how well you scout. If you can get proven players you do it especially a top 10 player in the league. We have acquired all these assets for a reason so now it's time to use them not play scared. Pull the trigger if the option is there!


Yes he has been medically cleared for months and as Pop how much good it has done the Spurs. Again I wouldnt trade for Kawhi for anything.
Just say no to idiots!!

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