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Re: Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker? 

Post#61 » by jbent87 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:41 pm

bisme37 wrote:Jabari can't guard anyone in this series. He's too slow for Brown and Tatum and he's not strong enough to deal with Horford or Morris.

There are a lot of Bucks players who "don't wanna be here" not just Parker.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to go into a postseason with an interim head coach and I don't think this roster enjoys playing with each other.

Giannis is an incredible individual player but he needs to start doing that superstar thing where you "make the guys around you better." He tries to do it all on is own.

Then Prunty benches guys like Brogdon after a few turnovers instead of showing trust in his roster and building their confidence.

This is basically a one man team with a sub par coach, is what I'm trying to say. They have the talent to play as a team but they just don't do it.

Sorry I just totally started rambling lol. Back to Parker... he can't guard anyone so his value is not as high as he thinks it is.


Which is why Ben Simmons >> Giannis conversations aren't crazy. Giannis hasn't made anyone around him better, and cant shoot just like Simmons. At least Simmons is a near lock for the triple double every night based on his willingness to distribute to compliment his size.
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Re: Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker? 

Post#62 » by Johnlac1 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:44 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:If I'm a Bucks fan, I'd like to do a Jabari S&T for Dwight-type. The Hornets get a young guy with promise in Jabari and unload Dwight. Dwight inside would really help them man that paint.

And have him clog the middle mucking up things for Giannis? And trade a young potential all-star for a player with a few years left? Absolutely no way.
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Re: Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker? 

Post#63 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:47 pm

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bisme37 wrote:Jabari can't guard anyone in this series. He's too slow for Brown and Tatum and he's not strong enough to deal with Horford or Morris.

There are a lot of Bucks players who "don't wanna be here" not just Parker.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to go into a postseason with an interim head coach and I don't think this roster enjoys playing with each other.

Giannis is an incredible individual player but he needs to start doing that superstar thing where you "make the guys around you better." He tries to do it all on is own.

Then Prunty benches guys like Brogdon after a few turnovers instead of showing trust in his roster and building their confidence.

This is basically a one man team with a sub par coach, is what I'm trying to say. They have the talent to play as a team but they just don't do it.

Sorry I just totally started rambling lol. Back to Parker... he can't guard anyone so his value is not as high as he thinks it is.


Which is why Ben Simmons >> Giannis conversations aren't crazy. Giannis hasn't made anyone around him better, and cant shoot just like Simmons. At least Simmons is a near lock for the triple double every night based on his willingness to distribute to compliment his size.


Ben is surrounded by shooters, Giannis is not. Ben has a great coach & EMBIID, Giannis again does not.

These things make a HUGE difference in how effective each player can be/is.
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Re: Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker? 

Post#64 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:51 pm

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PistolPeteJR wrote:If I'm a Bucks fan, I'd like to do a Jabari S&T for Dwight-type. The Hornets get a young guy with promise in Jabari and unload Dwight. Dwight inside would really help them man that paint.

And have him clog the middle mucking up things for Giannis? And trade a young potential all-star for a player with a few years left? Absolutely no way.


If the rumours are true about the toxicity as it pertains to his jealousy with Giannis?
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Post#65 » by Jody Smokz » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:57 pm

Both Utah and MIL should do a sign and trade for Parker and Derrick Favors
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Post#66 » by truly » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:10 pm

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bisme37 wrote:Jabari can't guard anyone in this series. He's too slow for Brown and Tatum and he's not strong enough to deal with Horford or Morris.

There are a lot of Bucks players who "don't wanna be here" not just Parker.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to go into a postseason with an interim head coach and I don't think this roster enjoys playing with each other.

Giannis is an incredible individual player but he needs to start doing that superstar thing where you "make the guys around you better." He tries to do it all on is own.

Then Prunty benches guys like Brogdon after a few turnovers instead of showing trust in his roster and building their confidence.

This is basically a one man team with a sub par coach, is what I'm trying to say. They have the talent to play as a team but they just don't do it.

Sorry I just totally started rambling lol. Back to Parker... he can't guard anyone so his value is not as high as he thinks it is.


Which is why Ben Simmons >> Giannis conversations aren't crazy. Giannis hasn't made anyone around him better, and cant shoot just like Simmons. At least Simmons is a near lock for the triple double every night based on his willingness to distribute to compliment his size.


Ben is surrounded by shooters, Giannis is not. Ben has a great coach & EMBIID, Giannis again does not.

These things make a HUGE difference in how effective each player can be/is.


But Giannis has Tony Snell!!!I bet Simmons would make Tony an all star :nod:
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Re: Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker? 

Post#67 » by 3Diamantidis » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:18 pm

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bisme37 wrote:Jabari can't guard anyone in this series. He's too slow for Brown and Tatum and he's not strong enough to deal with Horford or Morris.

There are a lot of Bucks players who "don't wanna be here" not just Parker.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to go into a postseason with an interim head coach and I don't think this roster enjoys playing with each other.

Giannis is an incredible individual player but he needs to start doing that superstar thing where you "make the guys around you better." He tries to do it all on is own.

Then Prunty benches guys like Brogdon after a few turnovers instead of showing trust in his roster and building their confidence.

This is basically a one man team with a sub par coach, is what I'm trying to say. They have the talent to play as a team but they just don't do it.

Sorry I just totally started rambling lol. Back to Parker... he can't guard anyone so his value is not as high as he thinks it is.


Which is why Ben Simmons >> Giannis conversations aren't crazy. Giannis hasn't made anyone around him better, and cant shoot just like Simmons. At least Simmons is a near lock for the triple double every night based on his willingness to distribute to compliment his size.



Which is why you should imagine simmons on that bucks roster with that offensive plan(?), these teammates and that coaching staff.
We'll see what you think after a couple of games.
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Post#68 » by DaPessimist » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:37 pm

I wouldn’t touch Parker with a 10-foot pole. He doesn’t bring anything to the table besides scoring and he’s a huge injury risk. Whoever gives this guy a big contract this offseason will ultimately regret it.
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Post#69 » by Dajadeed » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:40 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:If I'm a Bucks fan, I'd like to do a Jabari S&T for Dwight-type. The Hornets get a young guy with promise in Jabari and unload Dwight. Dwight inside would really help them man that paint.


I can’t believe there are still fans who would want Dwight Howard on their team.
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Post#70 » by wickedwrister » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:44 pm

Hey remember when the bucks locked in to Parker before the draft because of his wanting to stay in Milwaukee long term and passed on Embiid?

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Re: Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker? 

Post#71 » by jbent87 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:50 pm

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bisme37 wrote:Jabari can't guard anyone in this series. He's too slow for Brown and Tatum and he's not strong enough to deal with Horford or Morris.

There are a lot of Bucks players who "don't wanna be here" not just Parker.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to go into a postseason with an interim head coach and I don't think this roster enjoys playing with each other.

Giannis is an incredible individual player but he needs to start doing that superstar thing where you "make the guys around you better." He tries to do it all on is own.

Then Prunty benches guys like Brogdon after a few turnovers instead of showing trust in his roster and building their confidence.

This is basically a one man team with a sub par coach, is what I'm trying to say. They have the talent to play as a team but they just don't do it.

Sorry I just totally started rambling lol. Back to Parker... he can't guard anyone so his value is not as high as he thinks it is.


Which is why Ben Simmons >> Giannis conversations aren't crazy. Giannis hasn't made anyone around him better, and cant shoot just like Simmons. At least Simmons is a near lock for the triple double every night based on his willingness to distribute to compliment his size.



Which is why you should imagine simmons on that bucks roster with that offensive plan(?), these teammates and that coaching staff.
We'll see what you think after a couple of games.
It's easy to say this when you are on the outside looking in.
It's easy to get assists when everybody are shooting the ball when they get it.


I hear you, but suddenly Krhis Middleton is chopped liver? Eric Bledsoe is now just a guy? Jabari isn't a future superstar anymore? These are things that were all said just a few months ago. Suddenly they don't apply though and Giannis is a one man team. Got it.
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Post#72 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:50 pm

Dajadeed wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:If I'm a Bucks fan, I'd like to do a Jabari S&T for Dwight-type. The Hornets get a young guy with promise in Jabari and unload Dwight. Dwight inside would really help them man that paint.


I can’t believe there are still fans who would want Dwight Howard on their team.


Well for starters, the Bucks aren't my team.
Secondly, if the Bucks had to pick between overpaying Jabari right now based on his play to date and Dwight, I think I'd pick Dwight, assuming I had the right coaching staff as well, which is another problem in Milwaukee right now.
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Post#73 » by The_Hater » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:03 pm

I’ve always been in his camp but Jabari is becoming a slightly better version of Okafor. A defensive disaster who doesn’t contribute enough on offense to make up for it.
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Re: Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker? 

Post#74 » by 3Diamantidis » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:03 pm

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jbent87 wrote:
Which is why Ben Simmons >> Giannis conversations aren't crazy. Giannis hasn't made anyone around him better, and cant shoot just like Simmons. At least Simmons is a near lock for the triple double every night based on his willingness to distribute to compliment his size.



Which is why you should imagine simmons on that bucks roster with that offensive plan(?), these teammates and that coaching staff.
We'll see what you think after a couple of games.
It's easy to say this when you are on the outside looking in.
It's easy to get assists when everybody are shooting the ball when they get it.


I hear you, but suddenly Krhis Middleton is chopped liver? Eric Bledsoe is now just a guy? Jabari isn't a future superstar anymore? These are things that were all said just a few months ago. Suddenly they don't apply though and Giannis is a one man team. Got it.



No i don't think you hear bud :wink:
I think you found a chance to downgrade giannis for no reason(i don't see what sixers and simmons have to do with a thread about jabari parker)

All these guys can be good players. That doesn't mean that they fit together.
Sixers got ilyasova, bellinelli who fit like a glove along side simmons.
Bucks got tyler zeller to solve their C problem.
Bucks cut gerald green for deandre liggins.

What's the backup of giannis all season long? DJ wilson? Where is this guy?
If simmons gets benched you can use fultz, You can even use that guy mconnell, only to rest him if you wish.
Bucks don't have a backup 4. Parker is a SF.
Saric, covington, ilyasova, bellinelli, redick, even embiid. All these guys can catch and shoot but none of them aside embiid, is capable of beating a guy off the dribble. Which explains why simmons is #1 in passes received and made.
Middleton is not a catch and shoot guy. Granted, the system doesn't favor him.

This is a dream scenario for simmons and props to collangelo for signing the right guys and keeping the coach.
Simmons will be a top10 player before next season even starts and whoever disagrees with this, can debate with the wall.
His team helped him and props to them.

In the meantime, giannis "must make his teammates better" when the one guy "doesn't know who rozier is" and the other thinks he's the best player on the team, waiting to get paid and scoring 4 pts in 2 games.

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Post#76 » by BadWolf » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:10 pm

sikma42 wrote:This is why the Bucks will stay a horrible franchise. These leaks are silly for multiple reasons

Now Jabari has to play the PR game to save his rep because of these “leaks.” Honestly wouldn’t even be mad if he addressed it during a press conference. Call out the reporter and coaches for pulling this bs...


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Post#77 » by Dominator83 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:10 pm

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Post#78 » by BadWolf » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:14 pm

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bisme37 wrote:Jabari can't guard anyone in this series. He's too slow for Brown and Tatum and he's not strong enough to deal with Horford or Morris.

There are a lot of Bucks players who "don't wanna be here" not just Parker.

I don't think it's ever a good idea to go into a postseason with an interim head coach and I don't think this roster enjoys playing with each other.

Giannis is an incredible individual player but he needs to start doing that superstar thing where you "make the guys around you better." He tries to do it all on is own.

Then Prunty benches guys like Brogdon after a few turnovers instead of showing trust in his roster and building their confidence.

This is basically a one man team with a sub par coach, is what I'm trying to say. They have the talent to play as a team but they just don't do it.

Sorry I just totally started rambling lol. Back to Parker... he can't guard anyone so his value is not as high as he thinks it is.


Which is why Ben Simmons >> Giannis conversations aren't crazy. Giannis hasn't made anyone around him better, and cant shoot just like Simmons. At least Simmons is a near lock for the triple double every night based on his willingness to distribute to compliment his size.


Any data to back this up?
Simmons plays with ball more and has more assists, but other then that?
Long term is hard to say, been has been great so far, has the potential on par with Giannis.
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Post#79 » by djsunyc » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:14 pm

Dupp wrote:Who’s actually gonna pay him anyway? I don’t think the market for him will be great


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Post#80 » by 3Diamantidis » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:23 pm

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