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Re: 2018-2019 Off Season thread 

Post#441 » by Spens1 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:49 am

If Portland blow it up and they get swept by New Orleans.

Lonzo + Deng for Lillard (yeah i know, why take Deng).

We sign Paul George

Ingram for Leonard (No Kuzma, it hurts already as is).

Should work in terms of salary (i think).

Obviously you'd match Randle or offer him whatever you need to offer him (probably 12-14 mill per). Bring back Lopez on the MLE.

Lillard-George-Leonard-Kuzma-Lopez

At least in theory.
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Re: 2018-2019 Off Season thread 

Post#442 » by Vae Victus » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:05 am

....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

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Re: 2018-2019 Off Season thread 

Post#443 » by dontforget » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:42 pm

As of today, this is my plan.

1) Renounce cap holds for: MWP, TRob, Lopez, KCP, Brewer, Frye, and Gary Payton II
2) Trade Deng and Lakers 2019 FRP for Tyson Chandler (1yr/$13M guaranteed) and Alan Williams (1yr/$5M non-guaranteed)
3) Waive Alan Williams, Tyler Ennis, and Alex Caruso
4) Sign Julius Randle to a 4yr/$72M deal.
5) Sign Paul George to a 4yr/$132M max deal.
6) Sign Isaiah Thomas to a 1y/$13M deal.

This will mean 2018 roster of:
Lonzo
Ingram
George
Kuzma
Chandler
IT
Randle
Hart
Zubac
T.Bryant
2018 Cavs Pick
Min Roster Charge

2018 Remaining Cap Space $4M
2019 Remaining Cap Space: $33M

So the Lakers still have some room to play with if you think some numbers are unrealistic (although I think everything here is realistic IMO). The big caveat here is PG signing and the Deng/Chandler trade.

My backup plan if PG doesn't come, is to bring back KCP on a bloated 1YR deal again or a long term deal at or around $15M per year (still leaving room for a max and more in 2019). As you can also see with these moves I've suggested, Lakers will be able to keep Randle, sign PG and keep room available for a max in 2019.

As for the Deng trade, Phx gets to pick up a extra 1st rd pick and by having to take on $23M ($5M in 2018 and 18M in 2019) instead of the full $38M on Deng's deal. If Phx still balks at that Lakers can take on a Troy Daniels (1yr/$3.2M) or Marquiss Chriss (1yr 3.2M w/TO in 19) using the extra $4M 2018 cap space all the while maintaining g 2019 cap space. If, IT comes back on a 1yr $10M deal instead of $13M Lakers could take on both Daniels and Chriss so Phx then only eats $17M. Or Lakers can just let IT walk and take on more 2018 salary on a Deng trade. Essentially, do whatever it takes to trade Deng as long as you don't have to touch any young piece, 2019 cap space, and as little as 2018 cap space as possible.

Ok that's all, call me crazy and unrealistic etc etc, but that's what's in my head as of today, I'm sure it will change multiple of times as the playoffs go on.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#444 » by TylersLakers » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:25 pm

scoobs07 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like putting either Lebron or Kahwii at the 2 would be unfair to them? Lebron at this stage in his career and Kahwii after that leg injury. Wouldnt it just make more sense to sign George and James? We got Kuzma at the 4, Randle at the and Ball at the 1, so only the 2 and 3 spots would be available.


I honestly don't think it matters worth a hell these days.

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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#445 » by Penberthy » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:40 pm

scoobs07 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like putting either Lebron or Kahwii at the 2 would be unfair to them? Lebron at this stage in his career and Kahwii after that leg injury. Wouldnt it just make more sense to sign George and James? We got Kuzma at the 4, Randle at the and Ball at the 1, so only the 2 and 3 spots would be available.


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Lebron (16) Kawhi (32)
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#446 » by Kilroy » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:53 pm

Ball, PG13, Kawhi, LeBron, Randle... Basically positionless basketball... Just have to focus on excellent team, helping D... Offense would not be the problem.

In other news... Leonard hasn't responded to the Spurs in weeks...

Honestly, I think he just wants his SuperMax extension... But still... Don't think I've ever seen anything like this before.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#447 » by dockingsched » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:20 am

The IT situation must have him and many others completely spooked.
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Post#448 » by Sedale Threatt » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:39 am

I don’t even give a **** if we win anything. Just to get the chance to watch LeBron in our uniform every night for two or three seasons would be pretty damn awesome. Almost dropping 50 spots in playoff games in his 15th season ... just amazing.
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Post#449 » by Sedale Threatt » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:42 am

dockingsched wrote:The IT situation must have him and many others completely spooked.


That’s the only thing that makes sense. He’s on a completely different tier than Thomas as arguably the best two-way player in the game so he has that protection. But while I don’t exactly respect it, I don’t know if I could blame him either. Thomas is a case example why you have to put yourself first. He’s going to miss out on millions because he tried to play through an injury. It just wasn’t worth it.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#450 » by Unbiased hater » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:17 am

Kawhi looks like he is infantile so he is easy target for his greedy uncle, Lebron brings bitching and drama so for me they are new Malone and Howard . Its better to go for Durant , PG and some good defensive center bc we dont lose young core and we upgrade it with superstars who play at positions where we need good options.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#451 » by Kilroy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:11 am

Durant isn't leaving the Warriors anytime soon. That core will remain until someone shows they can beat them in a 7gm series.
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Post#452 » by ak7 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:14 am

Kilroy wrote:Durant isn't leaving the Warriors anytime soon. That core will remain until someone shows they can beat them in a 7gm series.


In just over a year Durant's start-up investment company has invested over $100 million in Silicon Valley... Durant is never leaving that area unless the Warriors fold as an organization.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/19/how-living-in-silicon-valley-has-made-kevin-durant-a-better-investor/

When asked how moving to San Francisco from Oklahoma City has changed how Durant does business, he explained that the best part of living in San Francisco is being entrenched in the tech world.

Investors and founders come to all of the Warriors games and being in the Bay Area has introduced the pair to a whole new group of companies to invest in that have elevated The Durant Company’s portfolio. “We’d never have been introduced to a drone startup in Oklahoma City,” they quipped.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#453 » by One Love » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:12 pm

LBJ is a drama filled circus & Leonard will cost Ingram & Kuzz at a minimum... Sign PG & a Center (Capella, Len, Noel, Chandler trade or draft) & fill the roster with long, athletic & unselfish players...

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Post#454 » by jay51024 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:58 pm

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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#455 » by Kilroy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:08 pm

jay51024 wrote:
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#456 » by TheRealKaboom » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:22 pm

One Love wrote:LBJ is a drama filled circus & Leonard will cost Ingram & Kuzz at a minimum... Sign PG & a Center (Capella, Len, Noel, Chandler trade or draft) & fill the roster with long, athletic & unselfish players...

Lakeshow Baby...

How will Kawhi cost Ingram & Kuzma (or any other player) when the Lakers can just sign him outright in Summer 2019? The cap space will still be there. So will Ingram & Kuzma, on the Lakers.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#457 » by Penberthy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:49 pm

Imagine if we just sign PG and Randle to long term deals this summer, and then Kawhi wants to come here the following year. Could Randle be a fulltime center?

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Re: 2018-2019 Off Season thread 

Post#458 » by kblo247 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:13 pm

Slava wrote:I wonder what Pelinka pays for good press. :lol:

Play with pace: During Pelinka’s hourlong commute in his self-driving Tesla, he watched college clips on Synergy Sports, captivated by a fluid and fearless wing who seemed to carry an extra 20 pounds from the Utah cafeteria. The Lakers spent the 27th pick, acquired from Brooklyn in the Mozgov deal, on Kyle Kuzma.


Pelinka’s father, Robert Sr., did not see the draft. He died in April of colon cancer, and a few months later, his mom sent the program from the Schlitz League. Jordan’s name is starred and highlighted on one page, Pelinka’s on the next, a reminder that he has never been far from the phenoms.

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/04/17/lakers-rebuild-future-magic-johnson-rob-pelinka-free-agency-lonzo-ball


Being an agent for so long, he doesn’t need to pay for it. He can create it himself with other agents he’s worked with, reporters who want scoops or exclusives with his connections, and so on.


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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#459 » by supaflash » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:18 pm

Though I don't want to lose him, what about a package for Kawhi built around Randle? Makes sense to me

Randle is a Texas kid and would be a perfect fit next to Aldrdige imo. They get a young 20/10 guy signed long term that can do all the inside banging and rebounding that LA doesn't want to do. Maybe you add Hart who I also don't want to lose to this and go from there.

I've really liked the effort and improvement Randle has put in this year, but IF we get Lebron I feel like he creates that clog in the lane that LeBron hates. At that point I think we'd be better of re-signing Brook to a cheaper deal.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#460 » by Slink » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:06 pm

supaflash wrote:Though I don't want to lose him, what about a package for Kawhi built around Randle? Makes sense to me

Randle is a Texas kid and would be a perfect fit next to Aldrdige imo. They get a young 20/10 guy signed long term that can do all the inside banging and rebounding that LA doesn't want to do. Maybe you add Hart who I also don't want to lose to this and go from there.

I've really liked the effort and improvement Randle has put in this year, but IF we get Lebron I feel like he creates that clog in the lane that LeBron hates. At that point I think we'd be better of re-signing Brook to a cheaper deal.


It's tough to have to choose between BI and Randle, but if you have to, I'd keep BI. It would have to be some kind of S&T deal, maybe the Lakers try to attach either Lopez or IT with Randle before giving up Hart of Kuz, but I doubt Spurs would take that.

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