Bucks frustrated with Jabari Parker?

[3Diamantidis]

Beogdon is 25 there’s no excuses for to’s

I'm not excusing the turnovers. I'm saying Brogdon is clearly the third most competent Buck in the series and he needs to play and have the support of his teammates and coaches.

In game 1 Shane Larkin had 4 turnovers in like 5 first half minutes, and then Stevens put him back in the 2nd half and he played some terrific D, and then completely torched the Bucks in the 2nd half of game 2. This is how you win in the playoffs, you instill confidence in your roster from 1-15. Brogdon is on the team and does a lot of stuff well. You need those guys.

Add sterling brown too.
But it won't happen.

[dred926]

It’s disappointing how both Wiggins and Parker turned out after the hype they both received since high school as the next big thing in the nba.

I think the best thing that could happen to both is a sign and trade. bucks sign parker to a contract and trade him to minny. HE would get the starting role at the 3 and wiggins could slide right in as the 2 next to giannis.

the question would be will bucks absorb the contract of Wiggins?

[3Diamantidis]

It’s disappointing how both Wiggins and Parker turned out after the hype they both received since high school as the next big thing in the nba.

I think the best thing that could happen to both is a sign and trade. bucks sign parker to a contract and trade him to minny. HE would get the starting role at the 3 and wiggins could slide right in as the 2 next to giannis.

the question would be will bucks absorb the contract of Wiggins?

How would wiggins play the 2 from the moment he is not capable of knocking down 3s with ease?
Bucks need catch and shoot guys who can made baskets consistently.
This trade offers nothing. Only more problems.
It doesn't help the wolves either.
Parker with his D, will make thibs run into the court wearing only his underwear. Nobody wants to see that.

[PistolPeteJR]

And have him clog the middle mucking up things for Giannis? And trade a young potential all-star for a player with a few years left? Absolutely no way.

If the rumours are true about the toxicity as it pertains to his jealousy with Giannis?

Yep, nothing toxic about Dwight!

This year and last? Not that I know of.

I think he understands his place more to be honest.

[Duke4life831]

I've been a Jabari fan and defender. Per 36 this year in his return he averaged 19/7/3 on 48/38/74 shooting. I have no doubt he can be a 21/7/3 on solid efficiency as soon as next year with a healthy off-season. I think he clearly has a chance to be a special offensive player.

But man I have no clue what he's been doing lately. Even before the playoffs he did some interview and he basically kept saying them and I, when talking about the team. It was so obvious he didn't feel apart of the team and reading the article it sounded like a dude talking about his former team, not his current team.

Then the playoffs start and in the really close game 1. it was very obvious to me that whenever the Bucks made a big play and they would show the bench celebrating, there was Jabari sitting on the bench with no emotion. Then game 2 was as bad of a showing of effort I have seen in a playoff game since Rondo in Dallas.

I get he wants a fresh start, but man he is handling this as poorly as anyone could handle it and has blown any small chance he had at a sizeable contract this summer.

Well said. This sums everything up perfectly.

The thing is, I’m not sure who’s going to give him that big payday he wants? The injuries and now the attitude and effort are bad enough but now that defensive analytics exist, every GM in the league knows how terrible he is on defense.

What is there about the Jabari package that would entice any GM of to take a $100 million chance on him? He needs a dumb, desperate GM with cap space.

Ya he's not getting that contract. But the thing was, he was pretty damn hot offensively going into the playoffs. Over the last week and a half of the season he was averaging 19/8/2 on 49/46/74 shooting over the last 6 games and again his offensive stats overall on this season were pretty damn good for considering his situation.

I mean if he could've kept that play up, there was a pretty solid chance a team might have been willing to drop say 4/72 on him, thinking if we make him our #1 scoring guy and pair him up with a good defensive center, this could work and is worth the risk.

But he killed all that momentum and teams are going to see this guy that pouts and quits on his team come playoff time if he doesn't get touches, add that to his defense and injury history, it's not worth the risk. Now let's say he gets offers say 4/32, you really think the Bucks are going to not match an offer like that? That would be dumb not to even if they don't want him in their future plans. They'd keep him cause it's better to let him walk for nothing and with a cap friendly deal like that, all he needs to go is have a hot month and they can trade him.

By quiting on the Bucks because he wants out so much, he has actually made it harder for himself to actually find a way to leave this summer.

[HurricaneKid]

By being such a negative on and off the court right now he has drastically hurt any chances at getting a sizable contract. I get it, he is making it clear that he doesn't want to be there anymore. But his best way to make sure he would be gone would've been to continue his hot play offensively into these playoffs and really up the chance that one of these teams offers him a sizeable contract and know that the Bucks really have no interest in matching anything like that with him.

But now with how he has been playing and how attitude it has killed any chances of that. So now he's probably only going to get team friendly offers and even with the obvious friction between him and the team, the Bucks would be dumb not to much a team friendly deal. Even if they have plans just to flip him for an asset later on.

Keep in mind the Bucks coaching staff is going to be completely turned over in about a week (or whenever this tragic season mercifully ends) so whatever "dog house" he thinks he finds himself in will be completely gone.

I do think the FO is going to play hardball with him though. No contract offer. We will decide on whether to keep him based on the coach that is hired (pretty quickly) and what he gets from another team.

Either way, he needs to understand he is KILLING the team. Take away the minutes he has been on the floor and the Bucks win G1 AND G2 (-15 in a -14 game). He hasn't "earned" ****.

[Dupp]

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This all seems fair enough by Parker. He just wants to play. On top of that if he’s not being told what he needs to do to get more minutes that’s bad.

[NapoleonII]

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This all seems fair enough by Parker. He just wants to play. On top of that if he’s not being told what he needs to do to get more minutes that’s bad.

So he has to tell that to reporters?

This whole mess has been created by him. At the end of you day, you're the one out there on the court making things happen. This whole situation reeks of entitlement, complaining and even jealousy.

The basketball gods don't give a flying you know what about your minutes, your "confusion" or your rehab. Many more hard-working and deserving players have done a lot more with horrible injuries and bad luck and lack of talent.

This is all on Jabari.

[3Diamantidis]

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This all seems fair enough by Parker. He just wants to play. On top of that if he’s not being told what he needs to do to get more minutes that’s bad.

Bud, do i need to tell you to play D in order for you to do it?(example)
Do i need to tell you to get back in D after a miss and not let 50 year old horford run the court like he's usaine bolt?(example)
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It's like the bucks didn't have problems already, they have to babysit jabari too, now.

The one guy doesn't know who terry rozier is.
The other guy doesn't know what he's supposed to do on a basketball court, after being an nba player for 4 years.
The interim coach is 24 years in the league, and he will remain an assistant if he finds a job soon, since he knows he will be gone in 10 days.

As i said, milwaukee bucks 2017-18.
Where amazing happens.

[Dupp]

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This all seems fair enough by Parker. He just wants to play. On top of that if he’s not being told what he needs to do to get more minutes that’s bad.

So he has to tell that to reporters?

This whole mess has been created by him. At the end of you day, you're the one out there on the court making things happen. This whole situation reeks of entitlement, complaining and even jealousy.

The basketball gods don't give a flying you know what about your minutes, your "confusion" or your rehab. Many more hard-working and deserving players have done a lot more with more injuries and badluck and lack of talent.

This is all on Jabari.

You’re right he shouldn’t be in the media about it ( I just read tweets didn’t watch the video). He is entitled and all that.

But it’s also very poor coaching / player management to not be communicating with players and what they have to do to get minutes I think. Probably why the bucks are as talented and bad as they are.

[Duke4life831]

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This all seems fair enough by Parker. He just wants to play. On top of that if he’s not being told what he needs to do to get more minutes that’s bad.

He hasn't earned minutes though. If Jabari can't turn on the tape from game 2 and realize why he's not getting not minutes, that would be a massive red flag. And I'm not talking about Horford going at him, that's horrible coaching to put Jabari in that situation. I'm talking about walking up the court when everyone else is running, not even trying to put any effort defensively, the dude doesn't even fake effort by throwing a hand to late to contest a shot, the dude didn't even do that. It was so obvious he was frustrated and didn't have the effort. A guy like that doesn't deserve minutes in the playoffs, especially when this is your first playoff experience.

[jc23]

Let him go for sure. Doesn't seem to be helping them much. However, finding an adequate replacement won't be easy.
I still love how Jabari worked those baseline dunks before his injury

Bucks dont get big name free agents, i think Giannis remaining a buck hinges on Jabari working out for them and becoming a star himself.

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[NBARocks]

His response is pretty much a black mark on him.

You don't deserve anything except for what you've worked for. So you waited four years, so what? That guy in G-league who waited 10 years deserves it more than you. You should be so lucky.

You can see the difference in Parker's and Giannis' attitude from their responses. Night and day.

If I was Prunty, I'd never let Bledsoe and Parker step foot on the court again this playoffs unless the team runs out of bodies.

[HurricaneKid]

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This all seems fair enough by Parker. He just wants to play. On top of that if he’s not being told what he needs to do to get more minutes that’s bad.

He hasn't earned minutes though. If Jabari can't turn on the tape from game 2 and realize why he's not getting not minutes, that would be a massive red flag. And I'm not talking about Horford going at him, that's horrible coaching to put Jabari in that situation. I'm talking about walking up the court when everyone else is running, not even trying to put any effort defensively, the dude doesn't even fake effort by throwing a hand to late to contest a shot, the dude didn't even do that. It was so obvious he was frustrated and didn't have the effort. A guy like that doesn't deserve minutes in the playoffs, especially when this is your first playoff experience.

The Bucks are ~+5/100 without Jabari and -60.5/100 with Jabari and he is demanding more PT.

I mean it feels like he wants to be sent home doesn't it?

[trwi7]

It’s disappointing how both Wiggins and Parker turned out after the hype they both received since high school as the next big thing in the nba.

I think the best thing that could happen to both is a sign and trade. bucks sign parker to a contract and trade him to minny. HE would get the starting role at the 3 and wiggins could slide right in as the 2 next to giannis.

the question would be will bucks absorb the contract of Wiggins?

Eww, gross. Letting Parker walk for nothing is infinitely better than a S&T for Wiggins.

[Boarder Patrol]

Do they open up any cap room by not re-signing him or would they just lose him? Either way it might be best for both parties. I could see him signing a biggish deal on the Bulls

[The_Hater]

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This all seems fair enough by Parker. He just wants to play. On top of that if he’s not being told what he needs to do to get more minutes that’s bad.

So he has to tell that to reporters?

This whole mess has been created by him. At the end of you day, you're the one out there on the court making things happen. This whole situation reeks of entitlement, complaining and even jealousy.

The basketball gods don't give a flying you know what about your minutes, your "confusion" or your rehab. Many more hard-working and deserving players have done a lot more with horrible injuries and bad luck and lack of talent.

This is all on Jabari.

This is the right way to try to fix a clear mistake, no sense in dismissing it. He explained that he was frustrated and wanted to play more and those are the types of players you want on your team. Some players would dig their heals in and double down on their mistake. How he follows up on things with regards to his play will be the big key now.

[XxIronChainzxX]

Maybe it's because I don't follow HS/college ball, but I was never super impressed with Parker when I saw him play. So I don't find it surprising he's struggling, although the injuries have compounded the problem so much.

[EireannX]

Both Utah and MIL should do a sign and trade for Parker and Derrick Favors

Because Utah need a massive hole in their defense and a selfish ‘what about me’ offensive player to ruin their motion offense?