Around the NBA 2018 (Non-Celtics Talk)

[DoubleHappiness]

Horford + SAC pick for Cousins?

Gets us our franchise level big that could match up with (and best) Embiid we solve the salary cap concerns by consolidating and I believe Brad will make Cousins follow the System.

Kyrie Brown Hayward Tatum Cousins

I don't think New Orleans takes that deal to be honest.

Also, I like hypothesizing trades for franchises I don't care about. That's why I proposed the Spurs trade earlier. But, if my team were trading for Boogie, I would want to see what he looks like after Achilles surgery. I Never want guys to get hurt. I **** hate injuries. But it's a part of the game that needs to be looked at.

I'm sure C's would do their due diligence. But an Achilles injury and Center is really tough. I'm rooting for Boogie. But I think that trade gets declined by both teams.

[Disinformation]

Horford + SAC pick for Cousins?

Gets us our franchise level big that could match up with (and best) Embiid we solve the salary cap concerns by consolidating and I believe Brad will make Cousins follow the System.

Kyrie Brown Hayward Tatum Cousins

I don't think New Orleans takes that deal to be honest.

Also, I like hypothesizing trades for franchises I don't care about. That's why I proposed the Spurs trade earlier. But, if my team were trading for Boogie, I would want to see what he looks like after Achilles surgery. I Never want guys to get hurt. I **** hate injuries. But it's a part of the game that needs to be looked at.

I'm sure C's would do their due diligence. But an Achilles injury and Center is really tough. I'm rooting for Boogie. But I think that trade gets declined by both teams.

I thought it was relatively well established that Brad doesn't want to coach Boogie...?

[Valid]

Horford + SAC pick for Cousins?

Gets us our franchise level big that could match up with (and best) Embiid we solve the salary cap concerns by consolidating and I believe Brad will make Cousins follow the System.

Kyrie Brown Hayward Tatum Cousins

I don't think New Orleans takes that deal to be honest.

Also, I like hypothesizing trades for franchises I don't care about. That's why I proposed the Spurs trade earlier. But, if my team were trading for Boogie, I would want to see what he looks like after Achilles surgery. I Never want guys to get hurt. I **** hate injuries. But it's a part of the game that needs to be looked at.

I'm sure C's would do their due diligence. But an Achilles injury and Center is really tough. I'm rooting for Boogie. But I think that trade gets declined by both teams.

I thought it was relatively well established that Brad doesn't want to coach Boogie...?

This.

There were reports that Ainge actually asked Stevens if he would coach Cousins last year before the Kings traded him to the Pelicans, and Stevens rejected the idea. That was why we didn't even really make a real play for him.

[DoubleHappiness]

I don't think New Orleans takes that deal to be honest.

Also, I like hypothesizing trades for franchises I don't care about. That's why I proposed the Spurs trade earlier. But, if my team were trading for Boogie, I would want to see what he looks like after Achilles surgery. I Never want guys to get hurt. I **** hate injuries. But it's a part of the game that needs to be looked at.

I'm sure C's would do their due diligence. But an Achilles injury and Center is really tough. I'm rooting for Boogie. But I think that trade gets declined by both teams.

I thought it was relatively well established that Brad doesn't want to coach Boogie...?

This.

There were reports that Ainge actually asked Stevens if he would coach Cousins last year before the Kings traded him to the Pelicans, and Stevens rejected the idea. That was why we didn't even really make a real play for him.

Agreed. I didn't add that in there, but I think it definitely has merit. I like Boogie to the Spurs because if Pop can't reach him than literally no one can.

FWIW I think Kawhi stays with the Spurs. I just like postulating this stuff because after all, it's RealGM. Rudy Gay looks great in SA, and LA does too. giving Pop a center who isn't ancient yet is intriguing to me.

[FlatearthZorro]

Horford + SAC pick for Cousins?

Gets us our franchise level big that could match up with (and best) Embiid we solve the salary cap concerns by consolidating and I believe Brad will make Cousins follow the System.

Kyrie Brown Hayward Tatum Cousins

Nahh...

Tbh, I think NOP needs a legit SF not Cousins back. Mirotic and Davis are a match made in heaven. They need a legit SF, who can score a bit and defend at an above average level. I'd say maybe Wilson Chandler- he will be available- probably for the cheap. He can defend and shoot the 3.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

When did you realize it was over?
Regarding the Celtics chances of acquiring AD,
definitely this playoff series: AD - Mirotic - Holiday... perhaps they trade Cousins or they keep him,
but the AD to Boston possibility is over for a while. On to Kawhi and PG... would be a bit of a stunner if LA
trades for Kawhi, signs PG and Lebron goes to Philly.

[SmartWentCrazy]

If I were into sports betting, I’d be hammering Miami with the moneyline for game 4. Philly is favored by 3 currently.

Young team in Miami coming off a big win + an early start on Saturday typically spells trouble.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Also, Fultz is cooked. Feel bad for the kid, but he is seriously shook. I dont think he ever becomes the player he once was, let alone the player he was projected to be.

[Asian Celtic]

If I were into sports betting, I’d be hammering Miami with the moneyline for game 4. Philly is favored by 3 currently.

Young team in Miami coming off a big win + an early start on Saturday typically spells trouble.

They're coming for game 4 with a hangover. Miami'll send their top hoes to spin these kids out. Just realized Fultz is the only player not allowed to drink in their group?

In all seriousness, this would've been a way better series if Whiteside wasn't such a bitch about PT and play sets. Dude gets paid and thinks he needs to be treated like a star. Riley did not budge to Lebron's demands, what does Whiteside think he can do the same?

[Asian Celtic]

Also, Fultz is cooked. Feel bad for the kid, but he is seriously shook. I dont think he ever becomes the player he once was, let alone the player he was projected to be.

Not in the camp that thinks the kid is done. But yeah with Simmons and Embiid clicking I don't think they'll have the patience to wait for Fultz to pan out. Especially with colangelo on the helm. No reason the trade fultz but all his projections was assuming as he's the main guy. Feel bad for the kid with his opportunity. Definitely not with the $$$ though

[Kolkmania]

Also, Fultz is cooked. Feel bad for the kid, but he is seriously shook. I dont think he ever becomes the player he once was, let alone the player he was projected to be.

Not in the camp that thinks the kid is done. But yeah with Simmons and Embiid clicking I don't think they'll have the patience to wait for Fultz to pan out. Especially with colangelo on the helm. No reason the trade fultz but all his projections was assuming as he's the main guy. Feel bad for the kid with his opportunity. Definitely not with the $$$ though

He was actually projected to be complementary piece next to Simmons and Embiid as a floor spacer and someone who could create his own shot in the final seconds of a shot clock. By no means the "main piece" of this roster.

Not sure why Fultz is "cooked" because Brett Brown opts for a more experienced point guard in an extremely physical PO in his rookie year (and having just 10 games of experience in the NBA). Him getting his shot back over the next (two) summer(s) will dictate whether he'll have a role in Philly as a starting guard.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Also, Fultz is cooked. Feel bad for the kid, but he is seriously shook. I dont think he ever becomes the player he once was, let alone the player he was projected to be.

Not in the camp that thinks the kid is done. But yeah with Simmons and Embiid clicking I don't think they'll have the patience to wait for Fultz to pan out. Especially with colangelo on the helm. No reason the trade fultz but all his projections was assuming as he's the main guy. Feel bad for the kid with his opportunity. Definitely not with the $$$ though

He was actually projected to be complementary piece next to Simmons and Embiid as a floor spacer and someone who could create his own shot in the final seconds of a shot clock. By no means the "main piece" of this roster.

Not sure why Fultz is "cooked" because Brett Brown opts for a more experienced point guard in an extremely physical PO in his rookie year (and having just 10 games of experience in the NBA). Him getting his shot back over the next (two) summer(s) will dictate whether he'll have a role in Philly as a starting guard.

Hes cooked because he looks like **** and has been getting worse. Ive watched him play, I want him to be good and im not viewing him through 76ers-colored glasses. People were fooled because he stat-padded against Brandon Jennings for a triple double. Im not.

Im sorry that reading a negative opinion about Fultz upsets you.

[Asian Celtic]

Also, Fultz is cooked. Feel bad for the kid, but he is seriously shook. I dont think he ever becomes the player he once was, let alone the player he was projected to be.

Not in the camp that thinks the kid is done. But yeah with Simmons and Embiid clicking I don't think they'll have the patience to wait for Fultz to pan out. Especially with colangelo on the helm. No reason the trade fultz but all his projections was assuming as he's the main guy. Feel bad for the kid with his opportunity. Definitely not with the $$$ though

He was actually projected to be complementary piece next to Simmons and Embiid as a floor spacer and someone who could create his own shot in the final seconds of a shot clock. By no means the "main piece" of this roster.

Not sure why Fultz is "cooked" because Brett Brown opts for a more experienced point guard in an extremely physical PO in his rookie year (and having just 10 games of experience in the NBA). Him getting his shot back over the next (two) summer(s) will dictate whether he'll have a role in Philly as a starting guard.

The fact that Fultz needs to prove and get his shot back to have a starting role with the 76ers roster is a bad outlook. Colangelo paid a ton to get him in a draft class that has shown one of the best in this era. IMO Fultz will be a starter, but how he'll keep that will be dictated by his development.

[prov1ml]

I don't think New Orleans takes that deal to be honest.

Also, I like hypothesizing trades for franchises I don't care about. That's why I proposed the Spurs trade earlier. But, if my team were trading for Boogie, I would want to see what he looks like after Achilles surgery. I Never want guys to get hurt. I **** hate injuries. But it's a part of the game that needs to be looked at.

I'm sure C's would do their due diligence. But an Achilles injury and Center is really tough. I'm rooting for Boogie. But I think that trade gets declined by both teams.

I thought it was relatively well established that Brad doesn't want to coach Boogie...?

This.

There were reports that Ainge actually asked Stevens if he would coach Cousins last year before the Kings traded him to the Pelicans, and Stevens rejected the idea. That was why we didn't even really make a real play for him.

I'm not arguing with you at all, but are there legitimate reports stating that really happened? I remember hearing the same thing at the time I just don't remember if they were "take with a grain of salt" takes or if they were reported from an actual reputable and legitimate source.....

A) I would be really surprised if Brad had that strong of feelings about not coaching him and
B) Even if he did, Brad doesn't seem to be the type of guy to either back away from a challenge or let his own personal feelings about a particular player get in the way of the job especially when it involves a great talent like Cousins.

[prov1ml]

Also, Fultz is cooked. Feel bad for the kid, but he is seriously shook. I dont think he ever becomes the player he once was, let alone the player he was projected to be.

Not in the camp that thinks the kid is done. But yeah with Simmons and Embiid clicking I don't think they'll have the patience to wait for Fultz to pan out. Especially with colangelo on the helm. No reason the trade fultz but all his projections was assuming as he's the main guy. Feel bad for the kid with his opportunity. Definitely not with the $$$ though

He was actually projected to be complementary piece next to Simmons and Embiid as a floor spacer and someone who could create his own shot in the final seconds of a shot clock. By no means the "main piece" of this roster.

Not sure why Fultz is "cooked" because Brett Brown opts for a more experienced point guard in an extremely physical PO in his rookie year (and having just 10 games of experience in the NBA). Him getting his shot back over the next (two) summer(s) will dictate whether he'll have a role in Philly as a starting guard.

The #1 pick in the draft was projected to be a "complementary" piece? I remember Fultz being talked about as the second coming up to and right after the draft.....

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Sums up the blazers in the playoffs.

[Moose23]

Sums up the blazers in the playoffs.

Are they though?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

If I'm Portland, I'm shopping CJ this summer. He and Dame are superfluous on offense, and you can't have them paired together if neither one plays defense.

[watsonthedragon]

If I'm Portland, I'm shopping CJ this summer. He and Dame are superfluous on offense, and you can't have them paired together if neither one plays defense.

Agreed, they're essentially the same player. I may even think about moving Dame since you can probably get a better return. They need to somehow swap one of them into a similar level wing who plays some defensive. Maybe they should try to make a run at Leonard...

[Kolkmania]

Not in the camp that thinks the kid is done. But yeah with Simmons and Embiid clicking I don't think they'll have the patience to wait for Fultz to pan out. Especially with colangelo on the helm. No reason the trade fultz but all his projections was assuming as he's the main guy. Feel bad for the kid with his opportunity. Definitely not with the $$$ though

He was actually projected to be complementary piece next to Simmons and Embiid as a floor spacer and someone who could create his own shot in the final seconds of a shot clock. By no means the "main piece" of this roster.

Not sure why Fultz is "cooked" because Brett Brown opts for a more experienced point guard in an extremely physical PO in his rookie year (and having just 10 games of experience in the NBA). Him getting his shot back over the next (two) summer(s) will dictate whether he'll have a role in Philly as a starting guard.

Hes cooked because he looks like **** and has been getting worse. Ive watched him play, I want him to be good and im not viewing him through 76ers-colored glasses. People were fooled because he stat-padded against Brandon Jennings for a triple double. Im not.

Im sorry that reading a negative opinion about Fultz upsets you.

How has he been getting worse, he has looked gradually more comfortable on the court since he came back. The stat padding against the Bucks was fun, but doesn't really say anything imo. That Fultz is a non-factor in the PO as the lead ball handler with 10 NBA games in his bag doesn't mean he's cooked imo. We'll see how he improves this summer and if he can get his shot back.

Not my purpose to start a back-and-forth, but my point is basically that nobody expected him to be better than Simmons and/or Embiid and therefore a complementary piece, although an elite one.