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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#41 » by Ruzious » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:17 am

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He’s not as strong or as skilled as Vucevic was. He has some flashes, but needs to develop his post game. Offensively probably compares better to Derrick Favors, but without the athleticism. His defensive rebounding is atrocious.

I don't know about that. Vucevic is exactly who he reminds me of - though we do need to see more of that 3 point shot, and he does need to be less deliberate with the ball or he'll get his pocket picked when he gets to the NBA. A lot of the comments you've made about Yurtseven were made about Vecevic - at the same point when he was at USC. There's no reason to believe Yurtseven won't get stronger - just like Vucevic did - he's already much stronger looking than he was last season, and he could eventually become one of the stronger centers in the NBA. The slow feet on D is a valid concern - as it clearly was for Vucevic. But he does seem to have quicker defensive reactions than Vucevic. I don't see what you see as far as defensive rebounding being atrocious - it's a strength for him. Put it this way - Aaron Baynes is playing 18 minutes a game for the best team in the East - Anyone think he can't become better than Baynes? I like him as a late 1st rounder.


Actually no, I don’t think he can be better than Baynes. Baynes is really good and should be starting. Baynes sets the best screens in he NBA, he’s a really good defensive rebounder, he’s a really smart and he’s sneakily athletic. They’re different kinds of players. I don’t like Yurtseven as a rebounder because he doesn’t have rebounding technique and I personally don’t think he’s very athletic or long enough to rebound against NBA-level athletes at center.

Have you always had those opinions about Baynes? I don't totally disagree with you on him, but I think his athleticism is no better than Yurtseven's, and Yurtseven will be a more skilled player. There's no reason he can't improve his rebounding technique - it's working well at NC State. What are the length numbers of Baynes and Yurtseven? Looking at them, I don't think there's much of a difference.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#42 » by doordoor123 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:59 am

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Ruzious wrote:I don't know about that. Vucevic is exactly who he reminds me of - though we do need to see more of that 3 point shot, and he does need to be less deliberate with the ball or he'll get his pocket picked when he gets to the NBA. A lot of the comments you've made about Yurtseven were made about Vecevic - at the same point when he was at USC. There's no reason to believe Yurtseven won't get stronger - just like Vucevic did - he's already much stronger looking than he was last season, and he could eventually become one of the stronger centers in the NBA. The slow feet on D is a valid concern - as it clearly was for Vucevic. But he does seem to have quicker defensive reactions than Vucevic. I don't see what you see as far as defensive rebounding being atrocious - it's a strength for him. Put it this way - Aaron Baynes is playing 18 minutes a game for the best team in the East - Anyone think he can't become better than Baynes? I like him as a late 1st rounder.


Actually no, I don’t think he can be better than Baynes. Baynes is really good and should be starting. Baynes sets the best screens in he NBA, he’s a really good defensive rebounder, he’s a really smart and he’s sneakily athletic. They’re different kinds of players. I don’t like Yurtseven as a rebounder because he doesn’t have rebounding technique and I personally don’t think he’s very athletic or long enough to rebound against NBA-level athletes at center.

Have you always had those opinions about Baynes? I don't totally disagree with you on him, but I think his athleticism is no better than Yurtseven's, and Yurtseven will be a more skilled player. There's no reason he can't improve his rebounding technique - it's working well at NC State. What are the length numbers of Baynes and Yurtseven? Looking at them, I don't think there's much of a difference.




At first I didn’t like him and then when he was on the Pistons Stan Van Gundy said he would be a starter on another team. I started watching him more closely and think he’s really good now. Baynes is a really similar player to Steven Adams, but Adams is little more fluid. I don’t even think Yurtseven can dunk off of two feet and he’s 7 feet tall. I don’t think Yurtseven can be what Baynes is as a defender and screen setter even if he does learn how to rebound. Wings are going to blow by him and bigs will be too big or athletic for him to stop. Logs and pick & rolls are going to be hard on him.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#43 » by Ruzious » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:10 am

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Actually no, I don’t think he can be better than Baynes. Baynes is really good and should be starting. Baynes sets the best screens in he NBA, he’s a really good defensive rebounder, he’s a really smart and he’s sneakily athletic. They’re different kinds of players. I don’t like Yurtseven as a rebounder because he doesn’t have rebounding technique and I personally don’t think he’s very athletic or long enough to rebound against NBA-level athletes at center.

Have you always had those opinions about Baynes? I don't totally disagree with you on him, but I think his athleticism is no better than Yurtseven's, and Yurtseven will be a more skilled player. There's no reason he can't improve his rebounding technique - it's working well at NC State. What are the length numbers of Baynes and Yurtseven? Looking at them, I don't think there's much of a difference.




At first I didn’t like him and then when he was on the Pistons Stan Van Gundy said he would be a starter on another team. I started watching him more closely and think he’s really good now. Baynes is a really similar player to Steven Adams, but Adams is little more fluid. I don’t even think Yurtseven can dunk off of two feet and he’s 7 feet tall. I don’t think Yurtseven can be what Baynes is as a defender and screen setter even if he does learn how to rebound. Wings are going to blow by him and bigs will be too big or athletic for him to stop. Logs and pick & rolls are going to be hard on him.

Adams - for his size - is a great athlete and one of the fastest bigs in the NBA. Baynes isn't in his league as far as athleticism.

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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#44 » by doordoor123 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:17 am

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Ruzious wrote:Have you always had those opinions about Baynes? I don't totally disagree with you on him, but I think his athleticism is no better than Yurtseven's, and Yurtseven will be a more skilled player. There's no reason he can't improve his rebounding technique - it's working well at NC State. What are the length numbers of Baynes and Yurtseven? Looking at them, I don't think there's much of a difference.




At first I didn’t like him and then when he was on the Pistons Stan Van Gundy said he would be a starter on another team. I started watching him more closely and think he’s really good now. Baynes is a really similar player to Steven Adams, but Adams is little more fluid. I don’t even think Yurtseven can dunk off of two feet and he’s 7 feet tall. I don’t think Yurtseven can be what Baynes is as a defender and screen setter even if he does learn how to rebound. Wings are going to blow by him and bigs will be too big or athletic for him to stop. Logs and pick & rolls are going to be hard on him.

Adams - for his size - is a great athlete and one of the fastest bigs in the NBA. Baynes isn't in his league as far as athleticism.

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That’s why I said Adams is a little more fluid. Well I’m surprised he can dunk off of two feet, but still not impressed with his athleticism.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#45 » by King Ken » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:14 am

Duke4life831 wrote:I think he can be very similar to a Nikola Vucevic. Really skilled big that can score in multiple ways, also is a good rebounder. His foot speed and defense kind of limits his potential though. But I definitely think he can be a successful scorer in the NBA.

Damn son, we literally on the same wavelength :nod:
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#46 » by baldur » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:18 pm

nikola vucevic comparison is quite a spot on. they even have kind of similar body types and moves at the offensive end.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#47 » by freestyler34 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:07 pm

Hes playing good lately 28 Points on 12-16 FG 6 Rebs, 2 blks

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Post#48 » by The-Power » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:14 am

He's a legitimately big guy who can pop out of the PnR/P, has some moves to punish smaller players on switches in the low post and is not totally inept as a help defender. All while still being relatively young. Some team will find that profile enticing enough to take the chance with him.

He could definitely become a solid rotation player in the NBA, or even one of the ‘starters-in-name‘ who play 15-20 MPG and then get subbed out when teams size down – especially if he works on his body some more. He's certainly trending upwards as of late.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#49 » by freestyler34 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:01 am

The-Power wrote:He's a legitimately big guy who can pop out of the PnR/P, has some moves to punish smaller players on switches in the low post and is not totally inept as a help defender. All while still being relatively young. Some team will find that profile enticing enough to take the chance with him.

He could definitely become a solid rotation player in the NBA, or even one of the ‘starters-in-name‘ who play 15-20 MPG and then get subbed out when teams size down – especially if he works on his body some more. He's certainly trending upwards as of late.


He made a good decision with staying in college for another year .
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#50 » by DaddyCool19 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:52 pm

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Why would he transfer and sit out a year? He has to be totally dominant in 19/20 to get drafted as he would be 22 entering the draft.
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Post#51 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:43 pm

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Why would he transfer and sit out a year? He has to be totally dominant in 19/20 to get drafted as he would be 22 entering the draft.


Yeah, I don't get it at all.
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Post#52 » by doordoor123 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:01 pm

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Why would he transfer and sit out a year? He has to be totally dominant in 19/20 to get drafted as he would be 22 entering the draft.


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Post#53 » by SlowPaced » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:15 pm

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Why would he transfer and sit out a year? He has to be totally dominant in 19/20 to get drafted as he would be 22 entering the draft.


He clearly has the confidence that he will be. Might turn out for the better, he needs to polish his outside shooting and improve defensively.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#54 » by baldur » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:08 pm

he said goodbye to the nba by changing his team. he will be 23 in 2020 and he wont be able to picked up at a better spot than this year's projection.
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Post#55 » by Worm122 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:23 am

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Why would he transfer and sit out a year? He has to be totally dominant in 19/20 to get drafted as he would be 22 entering the draft.


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I really liked his mindset, he puts his development as a player in first place instead of money etc, I hope he evolves as a player and have a great carrer in NBA.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#56 » by SpeedyG » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:17 pm

baldur wrote:he said goodbye to the nba by changing his team. he will be 23 in 2020 and he wont be able to picked up at a better spot than this year's projection.


Terrible decision.
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Re: Omer Yurtseven (2017 draft) scores 91 pts 

Post#57 » by Hoopz Afrik » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:55 pm

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Why would he transfer and sit out a year? He has to be totally dominant in 19/20 to get drafted as he would be 22 entering the draft.


Maybe he sees the opportunity to learn under Patrick Ewing as a way to reach that goal.

Seems like an odd decision but lets give it time and see how it plays out. I can't see 2 years into the future and haven't met anyone that can.
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Post#58 » by Ruzious » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:24 pm

I'm not sure Omer has to sit out a year. I think they changed the rule a few years ago that if the team the player's leaving is ok with him not skipping a year, the NCAA will allow the player to play right away.
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Post#59 » by Hoopz Afrik » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:46 pm

Ruzious wrote:I'm not sure Omer has to sit out a year. I think they changed the rule a few years ago that if the team the player's leaving is ok with him not skipping a year, the NCAA will allow the player to play right away.


Really? I didn't know that but that is a game changer if that is the case.
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Post#60 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:22 pm

Ruzious wrote:I'm not sure Omer has to sit out a year. I think they changed the rule a few years ago that if the team the player's leaving is ok with him not skipping a year, the NCAA will allow the player to play right away.


Gonna need some corroboration on that because that seems to only be for hardship waivers (i.e. family/proximity issues) or grad transfers. Unless Omer graduated in two years, he is going to sit out.
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