Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason?

[Upperclass]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

[DaTruth34]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

False narrative. Jaylen has to take those amount of shots because nobody on this team has the right personality on the road.


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[Larry Legend 33]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

He could. Or he could hang out in NY endlessly "rehabbing" an injury that teammates believe was resolved months ago, leave everyone in the dark and then head West for nicer weather.

[keevsnick1]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

I have no idea what pouting you are reffering to, if anything he seems totally happy deffering to others when they are on. He strikes me as having a guy that wants to win and ve the best. I think that ultimately you keep guys who have the ala personality and drive to improve that Brown does, those guys end up stars. It would not suprise me one bit if brown ends up the better player than Hayward and Tatum given his rapid improvement and physical gifts. Keep him

[DaTruth34]

People tend to forget the most important thing: Jaylen step up in big games. He showed this attitude all year long. You dont trade a guy like him at 21. Just you dont

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[Wes-J]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

Golden State says hi.

[Wes-J]

Read on Twitter

This is what Brown was being called just 22 months ago

What does Draper bring to the table? Ouch.

[Upperclass]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

Golden State says hi.

Not sure what that entails?

[Marvel]

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This is what Brown was being called just 22 months ago

This guy's basketball knowledge is general board Raptors fan type bad..he's **** awful..him and A.Sherrod aka Celtics insider aka 2 days too late with every news he 'breaks'..both guys are trash. How NBC pays these idiots is beyond me.

I remember when he got drafted... It was pretty embarrassing on this board alone but everywhere too. I know I was wrong too for putting a few guys ahead of him; he's done a great job of proving a lot of people wrong. There's still some silly Jeff Green commentary from time to time but that's about it now. Most people like what they're seeing from JB.

If memory serves i had JB in my top 5. He has developed faster than what i expected him to be as a player and i love it.

[jmr07019]

I think he is or he is damn close to it. Davis isn't being traded especially after they won a playoff series. Kawhi might be traded but who is our competition and what are they offering?

Clips ... Harris, 12 and 13
Philly ... 10 and Saric. Possibly Fultz
Lakers ... I assume 1 of Ingram, Kuzma or Ball. They can't trade their 19 pick until after the draft.

I would offer Rozier, Sac, Memphis, a Boston pick or 2 and salary filler. Take it or leave it. They can take Smart in a sign and trade if they want. If Kawhi goes to Lakers or Clips who cares. Just don't want a Kawhi, Simmons, Embiid trio. That would be bad for us.

[Djh7475]

I think Jaylen and Tatum have both played their way into “untouchable” unless another untouchable (Giannis and AD are pretty much it) becomes available. That’s partly due to the way they’ve played, but the Celtics cap situation and their current contracts (every one of our rotation guys is underpaid) makes trading for a large contract nearly impossible.

Regardless, you just don’t see 20/21 year olds get traded after showing what Tatum and Jaylen already have. What if Jaylen’s recent play is not only sustainable, but he gets better? An elite athlete and defender who puts up a crazy efficient 25 in the playoffs who has shown as much development as he possibly could have before he turns 22 just shouldn’t be moved. Keep in mind that Jaylen looks substantially better than Hayward, Jimmy, PG, or Kawai at the same age.

Also keep in mind that the Warriors are one of the better teams ever assembled in the history of the game. Our odds of winning a title in 3-4 years are exponentially higher than the odds of winning one next year with our 3 best players coming off of injury regardless of how guys develop. The new supermax and lottery odds make it difficult to envision a team employing 2 top 3 players, 2 top 20 players, and a deep complete roster in the future.

Kyrie, Jaylen, Tatum, Rozier, and the picks we have give us one of the top 2 25 and under cores in the NBA while Jaylen and Tatum look closer to becoming stars than anyway could’ve expected. Next year or the year after, it’s not completely unrealistic to think the Celtics could have 4-5 allstars, 2-3 All-Defensive team guys, a 6MOTY candidate, 1-2 all-rookie 1st or 2nd teamer (depending on where the Kings/Grizzlies picks end up), a COTY candidate, and an executive of the year candidate.

Think about where the Celtics would be if they’d pulled the trigger on a blockbuster trade for Jimmy, PG, Blake Griffin, Demarcus Cousins, etc. when fans wanted. Most were willing to include 2+ of the Nets picks, Smart, Rozier, Crowder, etc. We need to remain patient considering I legitimately think our best shot at building a sustainable contender is standing pat.

Jaylen & Tatum should only look better once Kyrie/Hayward get back and they aren’t forced to be #1/2 options. Rozier and Morris hitting another level should also allow our 2nd unit to torch opposing benches. Until I see how the Celtics look when healthy, I don’t want to make a trade that isn’t Ainge-like (where we get 2-3x more value than we send out). Kyrie, Jaylen, Hayward, Tatum, and Horford with Rozier, Smart, Morris, and Theiss off the bench has so much talent, versatility, and mismatch potential that I think people underestimate how good we could be next year.

[Patsfan1081]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

Thompson gets 16 attempts a game as a third option, Mello gets 15. I don't attempts as an issue in only his third season in. Hayward is signed for only two more guarenteed seasons, Al for one, Brown's next contract lines up perfectly. If he developed to the point where he is contributing similar to the win column I don't it's a very difficult question of who you bring back. Trading for Irving fits the Brown/Tatum timeline more so than the Hayward/Horford. If you can land a good big man in the 19 draft like Bol or Brown with the Kings pick than you are set for a while.

[truth18]

This guy's basketball knowledge is general board Raptors fan type bad..he's **** awful..him and A.Sherrod aka Celtics insider aka 2 days too late with every news he 'breaks'..both guys are trash. How NBC pays these idiots is beyond me.

I remember when he got drafted... It was pretty embarrassing on this board alone but everywhere too. I know I was wrong too for putting a few guys ahead of him; he's done a great job of proving a lot of people wrong. There's still some silly Jeff Green commentary from time to time but that's about it now. Most people like what they're seeing from JB.

If memory serves i had JB in my top 5. He has developed faster than what i expected him to be as a player and i love it.

You were a fan from what I remember as well.

Lots of people wanted to trade for Jimmy, including me. Ainge knows best.

[keevsnick1]

Nobody is un touchable not Brown or Tatum but they are as close as you can reasonable get. Unless a 25 or under MVP candidates (so AD or GA) become available then you hold onto them. I dont really see shots being a huge issue, as other have pointed out you can third options getting 16 or shots and 20+ points a game and have a healthy offense. Brown and Tatum were at 10-12 a game this year. And our offense can certainly get better overall.

As for contracts if Tatum or Brown continúe on their current projectory they are the ones you keep. Im not trading Brown so we can keep a 33 year old Horford or 30 year old Hayward in two years. Even if him or Tatum are a level below Haywards, say borderline all star vs solid all star you still keep the youth.

[Fencer reregistered]

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One of the most embarrassing moment as a Celtics fan

A lot of that comes due to these idiotic quotes by guys like Draper. 90% of the people who boo'd never really saw Jaylen play, so they form their opinions based on the information passed by these idiots.

iirc a lottttt of people wanted Ainge to trade the pick for Jimmy Butler at the team and you can even hear one fan scream saying he wants Jimmy in the video. So they were obviously disappointed but still it’s embarrassing to boo a kid you just drafted high in the lottery.

Pacers fans hated the Reggie Miller pick, IIRC. (I think that's because the alternative was local hero Steve Alford.) Knicks fans hated the choice of Porzingis. Warrior fans booed ownership for their general approach to team construction. Etc.

[brackdan70]

I was sold when I heard Bill Walton describe him as shown in my sig. I am really impressed with this guy so far

So you won the bet, what is his sig?

I had forgot it was prearranged his should be ‘Jaylen Brown is the GOAT ‘
I haven’t verified that he has changed it yet

[canman1971]

I was sold when I heard Bill Walton describe him as shown in my sig. I am really impressed with this guy so far

So you won the bet, what is his sig?

I had forgot it was prearranged his should be ‘Jaylen Brown is the GOAT ‘
I haven’t verified that he has changed it yet

He has not. I just checked. You should let him know. Clock is ticking.

[Romeiro Celtic]

"Everybody is available for the right price"
- Ainge, Danny

[Fencer reregistered]

I'm quickly becoming a Brown believer.

As for the personalities-conflict concern, I don't see that at all. The Celtics roster is full of guys who obviously value diversity. Brown does so in his classic liberal/racial-politics way. Irving has his weird flat-earth style. Hayward is a white dude who married a hairdresser or whatever she was, but who's also a hardcore gamer. Irving and Horford were both born overseas, because their fathers were at the international-player level of talent. Horford is actually from a Spanish-speaking country. Smart obviously blends well with the other guys, and also seems like the sort of guy who's grateful for his good life rather than resentful that it isn't even better.

I don't have a read like that on Tatum, but I've heard nothing that would make him sound worse than a generic self-absorbed athlete.

And of course we have a coach who seems to be loved by all kinds of players, and a chief basketball executive who has gotten along well with players unlike him since the start of his own playing days.

[Moose23]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

I think team can be more about who is hot and when.

And with his big improvement at getting to the rim he is a perfect compliment to irving and hayward

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