Around the NBA, 2017-18 Season thread

[Prokorov]

50 point 3rd quarter for the rockets.

insane

[MrDollarBills]

50 point 3rd quarter for the rockets.

insane

50 to 20 in that 3rd. horrible.

[Paradise]

I can’t believe I sat there last year and watched Donovan Mitchell highlights then watched him play himself into a mid tier lottery pick. Then, got excited when Sean Marks wanted to trade up for him. Watched Denver deal #24 for him.


And now, he’s got 30 points destroying the Thunder and looking like a new era Wade.


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[MrDollarBills]

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LOL

I knew whoever was going to end up playing the Jazz in the first round were going to feel pain.

Anyway. Good luck to OKC being on the hook for Melo's contract next year while Paul George walks out the door. After what I saw last night they might just not even care. That Indiana trade looks horrible right now.

[vincecarter4pres]

Milwaukee's half court offense consists of taking turns iso'ing and dribbling into traffic and almost turning the ball over and then someone else jacking up a semi-contested jumper with 2 on the shot clock. Yuck.

[vincecarter4pres]

Also, Bledsoe is turrible.

[MrDollarBills]

Milwaukee's half court offense consists of taking turns iso'ing and dribbling into traffic and almost turning the ball over and then someone else jacking up a semi-contested jumper with 2 on the shot clock. Yuck.

yeah they need a new coach and imo GM. they need a better philosophy in place its hard to watch them play

[Jersey Generals]

Has Fultz played at all this game? Or is he hurt?

[DeRoma]

Milwaukee's half court offense consists of taking turns iso'ing and dribbling into traffic and almost turning the ball over and then someone else jacking up a semi-contested jumper with 2 on the shot clock. Yuck.

yeah they need a new coach and imo GM. they need a better philosophy in place its hard to watch them play

This is why I like Parker their offense is awful he might be pretty good in a better offense.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't like Parker because he doesn't look like he's in great shape and he averages 40 games per season or less. constantly injured.

i don't get the love affair with the guy some folks have on this board, you dudes want to give this guy serious cash and then will want to fire sean marks if he becomes an albatross contract.

if he was on the Nets originally, with the same career path, most of you on here would want to run him off of the team.

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't like Parker because he doesn't look like he's in great shape and he averages 40 games per season or less. constantly injured.

To be fair, again, all that missed time is because of 2 major freak injuries. I'm not saying to write these injuries off like they're nothing, I'm just saying, this isn't a guy who's missing 20, 30, 40 games a year with a variety of small nagging ailments because he's in suspect shape, made of glass, or because he's a Mary with no pain tolerance.

This is a guy like Brook Lopez, Pau Gasol, Steph Curry, or Amar'e. At least as of now. There's nothing to say he won't be a near iron man for close to a decade after these 2 unfortunate recurring freak injuries. Then again, he could be McDyess, or Ming, or Gilbert Arenas.

i don't get the love affair with the guy some folks have on this board, you dudes want to give this guy serious cash and then will want to fire sean marks if he becomes an albatross contract.

I wouldn't lol. I understand the risk and I'm hoping he takes it. I'm willing to bet they can get him for something like 4/$80.
You have to imagine the Nets medical staff is going to get a look at his medical records and be able to put him through at least a semi-rigorous physical as well, if not be granted permission to do an MRI, although the latter is much less likely.
He's healthy and in a system like this that should fit him like a glove, he's a stud. A 2 position beast of a player.
And he's only 23 years old with a ton of missed time, this guy isn't necessarily a finished product by any stretch of the imagination.

if he was on the Nets originally, with the same career path, most of you on here would want to run him off of the team.

Not at all. He's an uber talented player with athleticism you can't teach. He's well spoken and an obvious hard worker. I'd be cursing the injury gods and hoping with fingers crossed that Marks was bringing him back and gets him on a below market deal.

[shakendfries]

I suspect that the ppl who liked Parker also liked Harry Giles for his playstyle at the PF position - they have a little Amare to them

[MrDollarBills]

I don't like Parker because he doesn't look like he's in great shape and he averages 40 games per season or less. constantly injured.

To be fair, again, all that missed time is because of 2 major freak injuries. I'm not saying to write these injuries off like they're nothing, I'm just saying, this isn't a guy who's missing 20, 30, 40 games a year with a variety of small nagging ailments because he's in suspect shape, made of glass, or because he's a Mary with no pain tolerance.

This is a guy like Brook Lopez, Pau Gasol, Steph Curry, or Amar'e. At least as of now. There's nothing to say he won't be a near iron man for close to a decade after these 2 unfortunate recurring freak injuries. Then again, he could be McDyess, or Ming, or Gilbert Arenas.

i don't get the love affair with the guy some folks have on this board, you dudes want to give this guy serious cash and then will want to fire sean marks if he becomes an albatross contract.

I wouldn't lol. I understand the risk and I'm hoping he takes it. I'm willing to bet they can get him for something like 4/$80.
You have to imagine the Nets medical staff is going to get a look at his medical records and be able to put him through at least a semi-rigorous physical as well, if not be granted permission to do an MRI, although the latter is much less likely.
He's healthy and in a system like this that should fit him like a glove, he's a stud. A 2 position beast of a player.
And he's only 23 years old with a ton of missed time, this guy isn't necessarily a finished product by any stretch of the imagination.

if he was on the Nets originally, with the same career path, most of you on here would want to run him off of the team.

Not at all. He's an uber talented player with athleticism you can't teach. He's well spoken and an obvious hard worker. I'd be cursing the injury gods and hoping with fingers crossed that Marks was bringing him back and gets him on a below market deal.

I'm not denying his talent at all...he can play. But I don't think he's played himself into a large contract offer.

also, there are issues regarding his maturity and his defense is pretty terrible. If we're hesitant (with good reason) to offer Russell a large contract offer I don't see why the same caution should be used towards Parker.

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't like Parker because he doesn't look like he's in great shape and he averages 40 games per season or less. constantly injured.

To be fair, again, all that missed time is because of 2 major freak injuries. I'm not saying to write these injuries off like they're nothing, I'm just saying, this isn't a guy who's missing 20, 30, 40 games a year with a variety of small nagging ailments because he's in suspect shape, made of glass, or because he's a Mary with no pain tolerance.

This is a guy like Brook Lopez, Pau Gasol, Steph Curry, or Amar'e. At least as of now. There's nothing to say he won't be a near iron man for close to a decade after these 2 unfortunate recurring freak injuries. Then again, he could be McDyess, or Ming, or Gilbert Arenas.

i don't get the love affair with the guy some folks have on this board, you dudes want to give this guy serious cash and then will want to fire sean marks if he becomes an albatross contract.

I wouldn't lol. I understand the risk and I'm hoping he takes it. I'm willing to bet they can get him for something like 4/$80.
You have to imagine the Nets medical staff is going to get a look at his medical records and be able to put him through at least a semi-rigorous physical as well, if not be granted permission to do an MRI, although the latter is much less likely.
He's healthy and in a system like this that should fit him like a glove, he's a stud. A 2 position beast of a player.
And he's only 23 years old with a ton of missed time, this guy isn't necessarily a finished product by any stretch of the imagination.

if he was on the Nets originally, with the same career path, most of you on here would want to run him off of the team.

Not at all. He's an uber talented player with athleticism you can't teach. He's well spoken and an obvious hard worker. I'd be cursing the injury gods and hoping with fingers crossed that Marks was bringing him back and gets him on a below market deal.

I'm not denying his talent at all...he can play. But I don't think he's played himself into a large contract offer.

also, there are issues regarding his maturity and his defense is pretty terrible. If we're hesitant (with good reason) to offer Russell a large contract offer I don't see why the same caution should be used towards Parker.

Well, really just a few points:

1. I agree, he hasn't necessarily played himself into a large contract, but how big a contract would it take to get Milwaukee to cut ties?

2. I can't compare him to D-Lo. He's visibly good, his stats, raw and advanced back that up the last 2 years even if the sample size was undeniably small. Even after 2 ACL's, he's still visibly a freak athlete and spry as hell. And again, only way to nab him would be a big contract, even if only 4/65 with trade kickers and the such.

3. I know a majority of his defensive advanced paint him as a bad defender, but defensive stats are admittedly tricky. When you watch him play, he looks the part of a solid defender, who makes a number of wow plays every game along with digging in and being solid all around from man to man, to team sets.

4. He's already shown he's statistically good. Really good tbh. But whose to say he's hit his ceiling?

5. Attitude concerns might be legitimate, but he doesn't seem to be some cancer, or bully, or idiot. He just seemed a little frustrated in the moment a few times this season.

6. You cannot deny he's an unbelievably hard worker and has a strong mind. There is no way a kid comes back from that injury twice and looks great athletically without being critically dedicated and without being soft. He has work ethic and he has determination. You don't accidentally come back twice from an ACL to the same knee off good genetics and still be able to guard from 2 through 4 and still yam with ease, glide coast to coast, change direction, etc. Kid has that "It" factor imho.

7. That was more than "really just a few points", wasn't it?

[MrDollarBills]

I made a thread on the Bucks board asking for some honest feedback

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1700737

I can only go by the metrics and what i have seen of Parker, so I'm not an expert. We'll see what they say.

[MrDollarBills]

ehm...well. their mods locked the thread because apparently a **** show is brewing based off of an interview where Parker denied the Bucks offered him an extension offer and they told me to looking in that thread for answers...but I'll say this, here is one of the responses:

You should totally try to start a fan movement to offer him 4/$100m. Threaten to boycott. Do whatever it takes. Please do this. Thanks.

that's not very encouraging.

[vincecarter4pres]

ehm...well. their mods locked the thread because apparently a **** show is brewing based off of an interview where Parker denied the Bucks offered him an extension offer and they told me to looking in that thread for answers...but I'll say this, here is one of the responses:

You should totally try to start a fan movement to offer him 4/$100m. Threaten to boycott. Do whatever it takes. Please do this. Thanks.

that's not very encouraging.

I'm reading through the thread Mickey Davis linked in your thread with the interview, lol it's bananas.

Maybe I'm Bari biased, but I'm reading A LOT of emotional butthurt itt from the posters low on him. The ones in the middle and the ones who are supportive of him seem to be pretty reasonable about the interview and it feels like Bucks gonna Buck kind of thing, where their ownership, front office and coaching is as suspect and player/team alienating as ever and Parker was just being honest to a fault in the interview out of frustration. I'm on about page 4 lol.

[vincecarter4pres]

I haven't heard the interview yet, I'll check out the podcast later, but the fact that Jabari is one of the few people associated with this scab franchise who actually seems bothered and frustrated by the incompetence and dysfunction is a breath of fresh air to me. Maybe he could go about voicing his frustration in a better way at times, but he seems like one of the few people who actually gives a **** and wants better.

What's hilarious to me is that most Bucks fans read that as Jabari being a jerk and the guy we need to get rid of or just let walk.

That was pretty much summed in that play against the Lakers when Jabari got grilled because he was the only guy who moved without the ball and didn't stand in one spot like everyone else while Bledsoe dribbled 20 seconds off the shot clock.

I'd love to get rid of the dysfunction and incompetent coaching and keep Jabari, but we know that's not going to happen.

Once Jabari gets away from this abortion of a franchise, I have no doubt he will go one on to have a rock solid career and be a major asset on a winning team whose pinnacle of success is more than a 45 win season.

[vincecarter4pres]

I love this thread lol.

Frankly he comes off as someone with a bloated ego. His play recently is reminiscent of Gary Sheffield, whom I admittedly didn’t watch.

Unless it comes out that we offered 3/15, I don’t see his beef


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So glad we got rid of Sheffield! Guy never even played in 12 all star games!

So much similarity to Nets fans here.

[MrDollarBills]

Looking at this objectively this reminds me of how split this board is on Russell, but on steroids. So it's hard to really gauge things. I do notice however that his defense and effort are being called into question by more than a few posters. Also, people calling him anything ranging from "autistic" to a "space cadet" is alarming. But again, its hard to know what to take seriously and what is legitimate.

I will say this...thank god for Sean Marks and Kenny. Because there's some real frustration being expressed in that thread and the Bucks front office seems to be all over the place.