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Re: Around the League 

Post#1821 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Apr 4, 2018 3:27 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:
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I wouldn't get rid of car that's 4 years younger and half the price for a more known brand name car that also happens to break down every year. If I were considering such a stupid thing I wouldn't throw my first round pick+Boban+Bradley in the trunk.


What if you were a filthy rich millionaire with a big ego that likes to have unique cars that nobody else has?


Then I'd be searching for a car that would actually be the envy of everybody else. Something like a Kawhi Leonard https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249441/Teams-Preparing-To-Pursue-Trade-For-Kawhi-Leonard.

I wouldnt be going after a model thats injured every year approaching 30 and 3 years removed from a all star game thats for sure.


What if Kawhi was never a realistic option and the only person willing to deal with you was offering a Bentley instead? Thus, the option was to take the Bentley or keep on driving the Lexus.
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Re: Around the League 

Post#1822 » by buzzkilloton » Thu Apr 5, 2018 1:22 am

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What if you were a filthy rich millionaire with a big ego that likes to have unique cars that nobody else has?


Then I'd be searching for a car that would actually be the envy of everybody else. Something like a Kawhi Leonard https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249441/Teams-Preparing-To-Pursue-Trade-For-Kawhi-Leonard.

I wouldnt be going after a model thats injured every year approaching 30 and 3 years removed from a all star game thats for sure.


What if Kawhi was never a realistic option and the only person willing to deal with you was offering a Bentley instead? Thus, the option was to take the Bentley or keep on driving the Lexus.


I'd call Jerry West and ask him what he thinks. He knows cars better then anyone in the world. If hes not ok with a car then I'm not ok with it.
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Post#1823 » by vege » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:21 am

Jokic missed the last 3 possessions for Denver against Minny and people say he is a generational tallent, yeah sure...
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Post#1824 » by buzzkilloton » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:39 am

vege wrote:Jokic missed the last 3 possessions for Denver against Minny and people say he is a generational tallent, yeah sure...


Hes pretty damn good but i dont put him into that generational grouping of players. A.Davis/Simmons/Greek Freak are young guys who I could getting to that tier depending on the rest of their career. Jokics problem is his weak defense. I put him and Towns in that next level of hall of famer but not best of the decade type guy.

Also watching this game no fkn way we land Will the thrill Barton that dudes going to get paid.
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Post#1825 » by vege » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:42 am

Yes Barton is their 2nd best player, they have to pay him.

Jokic missed his last 5 shots, including a bunch of horrible air balls. He choked.
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Post#1826 » by topsearch92 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:37 pm

I could see Tolliver fitting right in with Philly
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Post#1827 » by flow » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:43 pm

topsearch92 wrote:I could see Tolliver fitting right in with Philly

There's no room for Tolliver. Who's leaving?
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Post#1828 » by DBC10 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:38 pm

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topsearch92 wrote:I could see Tolliver fitting right in with Philly

There's no room for Tolliver. Who's leaving?


Amir is replaceable right? I'd rather get Tolly who can play spot bigman minutes and just shoot whenever he gets the ball.
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Post#1829 » by DBC10 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:38 pm

Also, I wish this team had half the talent that Philly has right now. Simmons is the real truth, and Embiid is the literal perfect center in this day and age.
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Post#1830 » by Crymson » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:23 am

Well, boys and girls, it's now just us and the Kings without a single won game in the playoffs over the past ten years.
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Post#1831 » by Crymson » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:29 am

DBC10 wrote:Amir is replaceable right? I'd rather get Tolly who can play spot bigman minutes and just shoot whenever he gets the ball.


Johnson is a center. Tolliver is not. I'm confident that Philly will keep Ilyasova as backup PF.

Also, I wish this team had half the talent that Philly has right now. Simmons is the real truth, and Embiid is the literal perfect center in this day and age.


Better start rooting for a team whose owner actually understands the NBA, then. Gores has been pushing a bull win-now plan since he took over the team in 2011, because I guess he thinks that it's actually viable and that minor success will bring fans back to the team. It isn't, and it won't.
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Post#1832 » by chrbal » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:10 am

We're screwed until we tear it down and/or Gores sells the team.

and wasn't it like two seasons ago, where the sixers finished a season with 10 wins?
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Post#1833 » by Cowology » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:29 am

chrbal wrote:We're screwed until we tear it down and/or Gores sells the team.

and wasn't it like two seasons ago, where the sixers finished a season with 10 wins?
They had also been tanking for the better part of a decade.

Don't misunderstand me, I'd rather tank than be a habitual contender for best of the worst but for every success story there are several more who don't land franchise caliber players and it takes commitment, discipline and luck to suck that long and reap the benefits. Even Sam Hinkie was forced to step down after drafting the likes of Nerlens Noel, MCW, Okafor and a few others before the team finally benefitted with a healthy Embiid, Saric finally arriving 2 years after he was drafted and the drafting of Simmons which actually came under a new GM (Colangelo).

It was a process that very few people are afforded the job security of being able to execute, and done in a city with more loyal fans who continued to turn out for games.

I'm all for it... but it will never happen here.
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Post#1834 » by DBC10 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:49 am

Hot take. OKC will never win a chip with Westbrook as their main PG.
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Post#1835 » by Timmaytime » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:13 pm

I met Austin Rivers (and fiance) in an elevator the other day. Real nice dude.
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Post#1836 » by Crymson » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:30 pm

chrbal wrote:We're screwed until we tear it down and/or Gores sells the team.

and wasn't it like two seasons ago, where the sixers finished a season with 10 wins?


Deliberately. And it worked. They're the up-and-coming team in the league. And it's exactly the sort of thing that Gores would never allow. He's wanted his profits yesterday since he took over the team in 2011, and that's one of the chief reasons why it's currently shipwrecked in the sea of mediocrity.
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Post#1837 » by jakebernat » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:55 pm

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chrbal wrote:We're screwed until we tear it down and/or Gores sells the team.

and wasn't it like two seasons ago, where the sixers finished a season with 10 wins?


Deliberately. And it worked. They're the up-and-coming team in the league. And it's exactly the sort of thing that Gores would never allow. He's wanted his profits yesterday since he took over the team in 2011, and that's one of the chief reasons why it's currently shipwrecked in the sea of mediocrity.


This seems like a bit of an emotionally charged opinion seeing as how the pistons are worth $500 million MORE than the day Gores bought the team.

He already has his profit (if he wants it). He and SVG had/have a vision. It just hasn’t worked out. Everyone is to blame, but to say that we’re bad because Gores is only concerned about making some fast money is a bit naive.
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Post#1838 » by Crymson » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:08 am

jakebernat wrote:This seems like a bit of an emotionally charged opinion seeing as how the pistons are worth $500 million MORE than the day Gores bought the team. He already has his profit (if he wants it).


The valuation of NBA teams has tripled over the past five years--every single NBA franchise is now worth at least $1 billion--and that's got nothing to do with how the teams themselves are doing. That valuation is of no relevance to Gores unless he opts to sell the team, and there are zero indications that he plans to do so. Immediate profits are no doubt of interest to Gores, and, by all indications, have been from day one. This makes sense, as he is a businessman. The Pistons are, for obvious reasons, not a particularly profitable team. He's aimed to change that, and he's gone about it in a foolish manner.

He and SVG had/have a vision. It just hasn’t worked out. Everyone is to blame, but to say that we’re bad because Gores is only concerned about making some fast money is a bit naive.


Oh, OK. First off, I didn't blame it entirely on Gores. I've made it very clear elsewhere that Van Gundy's got a large share of the blame, so you may dispense with the strawman. Gores, however, bears a large share of the responsibility. He's maintained a win-now, rebuild-on-the-fly mandate from the very beginning, first with Dumars and then with Van Gundy. Both were forbidden to properly rebuild the team. Needless to say, this is a massive impediment, and his mandate defied the realities of team-building in the NBA. I'm almost certain, given his behavior and the fact that the issue was both entirely devoid of basketball sense and totally not in keeping with Van Gundy's basketball philosophy, that Gores was also the primary force behind the Griffin trade. That trade had zero merit behind the misguided notion that it might sell tickets (it seemed entirely based on the childlike notion that "BIG NAME = TICKETS AND SUCCESS!"). It also bears mention that the general managers he's employed have both been total failures, and that he was also responsible for Van Gundy's hire as coach.

I'd say the notion that Gores does not have a very substantial share of the blame, if that's indeed what you believe, is more than a bit naive.
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Post#1839 » by Snakebites » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:29 am

Memphis looking to trade their number four pick to a team able to absorb Chandler Parson's deal.

Man do I wish we had that kind of cap space.
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Post#1840 » by bstein14 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:37 am

Clippers preparing an offer for Kawhi centered around Tobias Harris and our lottery pick. Going to be the trade of the century for the Clippers if they turn Blake into Kawhi without having to give up any additional assets beyond what we paid for Blake.

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