2018 Trade Ideas thread

[Kilroy]

With everything even though there might not be a happy ending.

I'm pretty confident we'll be a better team next year. By better I mean with on the floor veteran leadership. Whether or not that translates into us jumping into the middle of the playoff pack will be seen. We now have assets and if the FO uses them well we can change the trajectory even more than we saw this year.

So what’s the most you’re willing to give up for Kawhi? Ingram alone is a steep price, and I don’t know that the Lakers should be willing to consider going much higher than that.

Going to post this here too because this is probably the better thread for it anyway...
Ingram/Deng/1st for Kawhi... That's nuts I know, but that's honestly all I'd do. I don't really value Leonard a whole lot more than Ingram at this point, but their skills overlap so much, it'd be kinda silly to keep Ingram if we got Kawhi, especially if we got PG13 and LeBron too...

[Landsberger]

I'm pretty confident we'll be a better team next year. By better I mean with on the floor veteran leadership. Whether or not that translates into us jumping into the middle of the playoff pack will be seen. We now have assets and if the FO uses them well we can change the trajectory even more than we saw this year.

So what’s the most you’re willing to give up for Kawhi? Ingram alone is a steep price, and I don’t know that the Lakers should be willing to consider going much higher than that.

Going to post this here too because this is probably the better thread for it anyway...
Ingram/Deng/1st for Kawhi... That's nuts I know, but that's honestly all I'd do. I don't really value Leonard a whole lot more than Ingram at this point, but their skills overlap so much, it'd be kinda silly to keep Ingram if we got Kawhi, especially if we got PG13 and LeBron too...

This is where I'm at too. Kawhi is a much better defender than Ingram and is more versatile offensively.

Now... how do Bron/PG/Leonard fit together. Toss in Ball and Randle or Kuzma depending on what we do with Randle. There are a lot of guys who have been the initiator there. How many can transition to playing off the ball? That's always the rub with teams of "stars".

[Landsberger]

With everything even though there might not be a happy ending.

I'm pretty confident we'll be a better team next year. By better I mean with on the floor veteran leadership. Whether or not that translates into us jumping into the middle of the playoff pack will be seen. We now have assets and if the FO uses them well we can change the trajectory even more than we saw this year.

So what’s the most you’re willing to give up for Kawhi? Ingram alone is a steep price, and I don’t know that the Lakers should be willing to consider going much higher than that.

Ingram isn't the price I'd offer initially however by getting Leonard back he becomes the one that has the most overlap with others we are looking at. Ingram's game expanded a little this year. His biggest improvement was taking the ball to the hoop. If we keep Randle that's where he's the best (by far), Bron is great at it and sometime Ball will have to have the ball as well. Kuzma can spread the floor. Losing Ingram seems to be the one that we would miss the least.

I'm not as savvy as many here in judging the trade market but my guess is that we'd have to give up a promising youngster to get rid of Deng to a bitter conference foe.

[Pythagoras]

I'm pretty confident we'll be a better team next year. By better I mean with on the floor veteran leadership. Whether or not that translates into us jumping into the middle of the playoff pack will be seen. We now have assets and if the FO uses them well we can change the trajectory even more than we saw this year.

So what’s the most you’re willing to give up for Kawhi? Ingram alone is a steep price, and I don’t know that the Lakers should be willing to consider going much higher than that.

Going to post this here too because this is probably the better thread for it anyway...
Ingram/Deng/1st for Kawhi... That's nuts I know, but that's honestly all I'd do. I don't really value Leonard a whole lot more than Ingram at this point, but their skills overlap so much, it'd be kinda silly to keep Ingram if we got Kawhi, especially if we got PG13 and LeBron too...

I love Ingram to death, but I could do this trade. And I may be a homer, but I’m with you on the value of Ingram. It becomes kinda easy to forget, but he was doing some really, really, good things before the injury.

[Kobe_for_3]

Dang is under contract until the 2019-20 season. There is no way the spurs take that contract in a deal for kawhi.

[Danny Darko]

Dang is under contract until the 2019-20 season. There is no way the spurs take that contract in a deal for kawhi.

IDK so middle of next year that looks an awful lot like he becomes a valuable expiring 1 year contract after the season. They could then package him with LA to try to find someone who fits their future plans better.

[thankyouKOBE]

With everything even though there might not be a happy ending.

I'm pretty confident we'll be a better team next year. By better I mean with on the floor veteran leadership. Whether or not that translates into us jumping into the middle of the playoff pack will be seen. We now have assets and if the FO uses them well we can change the trajectory even more than we saw this year.

So what’s the most you’re willing to give up for Kawhi? Ingram alone is a steep price, and I don’t know that the Lakers should be willing to consider going much higher than that.

It's the same nonsense as trading for Paul George. If they want to come, let them come. No sense in giving up value.

[thankyouKOBE]

So what’s the most you’re willing to give up for Kawhi? Ingram alone is a steep price, and I don’t know that the Lakers should be willing to consider going much higher than that.

Going to post this here too because this is probably the better thread for it anyway...
Ingram/Deng/1st for Kawhi... That's nuts I know, but that's honestly all I'd do. I don't really value Leonard a whole lot more than Ingram at this point, but their skills overlap so much, it'd be kinda silly to keep Ingram if we got Kawhi, especially if we got PG13 and LeBron too...

This is where I'm at too. Kawhi is a much better defender than Ingram and is more versatile offensively.

Now... how do Bron/PG/Leonard fit together. Toss in Ball and Randle or Kuzma depending on what we do with Randle. There are a lot of guys who have been the initiator there. How many can transition to playing off the ball? That's always the rub with teams of "stars".

We ain't getting LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi. Let's stay in reality here. Maybe one of those guys. We don't need to be OKC, who can't even beat the TImberwolves handedly.

[Landsberger]

Going to post this here too because this is probably the better thread for it anyway...
Ingram/Deng/1st for Kawhi... That's nuts I know, but that's honestly all I'd do. I don't really value Leonard a whole lot more than Ingram at this point, but their skills overlap so much, it'd be kinda silly to keep Ingram if we got Kawhi, especially if we got PG13 and LeBron too...

This is where I'm at too. Kawhi is a much better defender than Ingram and is more versatile offensively.

Now... how do Bron/PG/Leonard fit together. Toss in Ball and Randle or Kuzma depending on what we do with Randle. There are a lot of guys who have been the initiator there. How many can transition to playing off the ball? That's always the rub with teams of "stars".

We ain't getting LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi. Let's stay in reality here. Maybe one of those guys. We don't need to be OKC, who can't even beat the TImberwolves handedly.

If you read what I was saying it was basically saying the same thing from a "fit" perspective. Getting all 3 is well within the realm of possibility. We have room and we have assets.

"Superteams" are typically put together hastily and without thinking of fit. The most disappointing year I can remember in Laker land was when we added Malone and Payton. We got beat by a no-name team in which all of the players firmly knew their role. That's the issue with assembling a roster of stars.... they all have typically been in the leader role and it's hard to find a fit down the totem pole for a lot of these guys. That said, I think Bron can fit and I think Leonard could as well. I really don't follow PG much at all so that I'll leave up to the people that do.

[Kilroy]

Going to post this here too because this is probably the better thread for it anyway...
Ingram/Deng/1st for Kawhi... That's nuts I know, but that's honestly all I'd do. I don't really value Leonard a whole lot more than Ingram at this point, but their skills overlap so much, it'd be kinda silly to keep Ingram if we got Kawhi, especially if we got PG13 and LeBron too...

This is where I'm at too. Kawhi is a much better defender than Ingram and is more versatile offensively.

Now... how do Bron/PG/Leonard fit together. Toss in Ball and Randle or Kuzma depending on what we do with Randle. There are a lot of guys who have been the initiator there. How many can transition to playing off the ball? That's always the rub with teams of "stars".

We ain't getting LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi. Let's stay in reality here. Maybe one of those guys. We don't need to be OKC, who can't even beat the TImberwolves handedly.

If you get one of them, the odds you get another one goes up dramatically... And if you get 2 of them, say Kawhi in trade and PG or LeBron, getting the 3rd is almost a shoe-in as a free agent...

[Slink]

This is where I'm at too. Kawhi is a much better defender than Ingram and is more versatile offensively.

Now... how do Bron/PG/Leonard fit together. Toss in Ball and Randle or Kuzma depending on what we do with Randle. There are a lot of guys who have been the initiator there. How many can transition to playing off the ball? That's always the rub with teams of "stars".

We ain't getting LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi. Let's stay in reality here. Maybe one of those guys. We don't need to be OKC, who can't even beat the TImberwolves handedly.

If you get one of them, the odds you get another one goes up dramatically... And if you get 2 of them, say Kawhi in trade and PG or LeBron, getting the 3rd is almost a shoe-in as a free agent...

I wouldn't want three in one season. Thats a lot of parts to integrate. One FA signing is fine. Two is the limit for me.

[LAKESHOW]

Watching the Utah game. If this idiot wants to stay in that mess in OKC. Let him stay.

[The Skyhook]

We sure we still want this guy? Or is it just that the situation in OKC has gotten so bad that PG is frustrated enough to let Joe freaking Ingles get in his head

[SlimShady83]

Yes we want PG his still young and can still go quite a few good years;)

PG then KL the following year and we good to go

[No name]

We sure we still want this guy? Or is it just that the situation in OKC has gotten so bad that PG is frustrated enough to let Joe freaking Ingles get in his head

PG is doing his share.

[One Love]

Are you guys even watching the series... PG is OKC’s best player in this series, PERIOD... Dude can ball... PG is a stud & should be our primary target... Dude has NBA resume, peers respect, length, fits seemlessly into our offense sets & defensive schemes, LA native & plays hard on both ends...

The real questions is do you chase Cousins... Pelicans considering offfering 2/3 year 75% max deal in a Buyers Market... Pelicans playing better without him... I am not sure where I stand given the injury & drama but he is probably available...

Respect PG... Lakeshow Baby...

[Ball so hard]

I'm pretty confident we'll be a better team next year. By better I mean with on the floor veteran leadership. Whether or not that translates into us jumping into the middle of the playoff pack will be seen. We now have assets and if the FO uses them well we can change the trajectory even more than we saw this year.

So what’s the most you’re willing to give up for Kawhi? Ingram alone is a steep price, and I don’t know that the Lakers should be willing to consider going much higher than that.

Ingram isn't the price I'd offer initially however by getting Leonard back he becomes the one that has the most overlap with others we are looking at. Ingram's game expanded a little this year. His biggest improvement was taking the ball to the hoop. If we keep Randle that's where he's the best (by far), Bron is great at it and sometime Ball will have to have the ball as well. Kuzma can spread the floor. Losing Ingram seems to be the one that we would miss the least.

I'm not as savvy as many here in judging the trade market but my guess is that we'd have to give up a promising youngster to get rid of Deng to a bitter conference foe.

Its very difficult to get a fair trade (from the Lakers point of view) when everyone knows what you're trying to do. Getting rid of Deng (with very little coming back) will cost us at least Ingram. I think it's simply a pipe dream to think Popovich will trade Kawhi to us for only Ingram while adding Deng's baggage. I think Popovich would pass on trading with us even if it means accepting a slightly inferior offer.

[NBAWestFan]

Spurs package will be two young players (Ball, Ingram or Kuzz) or they will send him to the Eastern Conference... They aren’t taking a 17th round pick with Randle... You have to be realistic... I love his game & LBJ is LBJ but we have a good thing rolling right now so need to be careful... PG should be the primary target as he fits in seemlessly & costs us nothing... Lakeshow Baby...

How does a 28 year PG13 costing 30 mil fit in seemlessly?

I'm not sure who fits in but a big would help this team.

PG is the a similar postion to Kuzuma.

I think what PG Brings is playoff experience and more intensity on Defense but he is not a super star Defender as in the past.

I m not sure who fits. But the two guys I like with Ball, and Kuz are AD and the Greek Freak.

Alot of the stars or past superstars I'm not 100% sold on them for $$$$

[Spens1]

Spurs package will be two young players (Ball, Ingram or Kuzz) or they will send him to the Eastern Conference... They aren’t taking a 17th round pick with Randle... You have to be realistic... I love his game & LBJ is LBJ but we have a good thing rolling right now so need to be careful... PG should be the primary target as he fits in seemlessly & costs us nothing... Lakeshow Baby...

How does a 28 year PG13 costing 30 mil fit in seemlessly?

I'm not sure who fits in but a big would help this team.

PG is the a similar postion to Kuzuma.

I think what PG Brings is playoff experience and more intensity on Defense but he is not a super star Defender as in the past.

I m not sure who fits. But the two guys I like with Ball, and Kuz are AD and the Greek Freak.

Alot of the stars or past superstars I'm not 100% sold on them for $$$$

How does P.G. fit, at Small forward and you can put Ingram at S.G. where his lankiness isn't as big of an issue.

Ball-Ingram-George-Kuzma-???(no idea who plays center next year, hopefully NOT Lopez)

[Spens1]

Are you guys even watching the series... PG is OKC’s best player in this series, PERIOD... Dude can ball... PG is a stud & should be our primary target... Dude has NBA resume, peers respect, length, fits seemlessly into our offense sets & defensive schemes, LA native & plays hard on both ends...

The real questions is do you chase Cousins... Pelicans considering offfering 2/3 year 75% max deal in a Buyers Market... Pelicans playing better without him... I am not sure where I stand given the injury & drama but he is probably available...

Respect PG... Lakeshow Baby...

I think you do. I think DMC isn't super reliant on athleticism or explosiveness so he will be able to do the same things he was before more or less, we don't need to rush him back as it gives us time to play Zubac and/or Bryant there and see how they go and then DMC can come back in the new year. Also center is a massive hole for us and landing one of the best bigs in the game, who is only 27 will do us wonders. DMC I can't see having a massive drop off for another 5-6 years regardless. I'd certainly at least offer him a 1 year max though even if things do go wrong (if they do, then we can go sign Leonard or someone else instead).

Ball-Ingram-George-Kuzma-Cousins

if you're confident, resign Randle also on a decent deal (10-12 mill per, around Clarkson money, which is what he should get).