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[bluejerseyjinx]

Well, that will help their O-line and RB problems, lmao. I hope you get Dez also.

[Mich3006]

Well, that will help their O-line and RB problems, lmao. I hope you get Dez also.

I really have high hopes both Gettleman and Shurmur will draft solid guys for that positions.

Don´t care about Dez, still a productive player in the right system IMO.

[Cactus Jack]

Well, that will help their O-line and RB problems, lmao. I hope you get Dez also.

They draft Barkley (and they should), he will terrorize that Dallas defense for years on end. Saquon is Zeke on steroids. Unlike Zeke, he doesn't need an O-line to block for him fwiw.

Sean Lee would be wise to end his career now before Saquon does it for him.

[Otis Driftwood]

Well, that will help their O-line and RB problems, lmao. I hope you get Dez also.

They draft Barkley (and they should), he will terrorize that Dallas defense for years on end. Saquon is Zeke on steroids. Unlike Zeke, he doesn't need an O-line to block for him fwiw.

Sean Lee would be wise to end his career now before Saquon does it for him.

I'm actually torn on this one. Do I prefer having to stop Barkley or Chubb?

Hell - I hope the Giants take a QB!

[Cactus Jack]

Well, that will help their O-line and RB problems, lmao. I hope you get Dez also.

They draft Barkley (and they should), he will terrorize that Dallas defense for years on end. Saquon is Zeke on steroids. Unlike Zeke, he doesn't need an O-line to block for him fwiw.

Sean Lee would be wise to end his career now before Saquon does it for him.

I'm actually torn on this one. Do I prefer having to stop Barkley or Chubb?

Hell - I hope the Giants take a QB!

You shouldn't be. Barkley might be the best RB in the league starting day one. Kid is that good. He's a freak.

[Otis Driftwood]

They draft Barkley (and they should), he will terrorize that Dallas defense for years on end. Saquon is Zeke on steroids. Unlike Zeke, he doesn't need an O-line to block for him fwiw.

Sean Lee would be wise to end his career now before Saquon does it for him.

I'm actually torn on this one. Do I prefer having to stop Barkley or Chubb?

Hell - I hope the Giants take a QB!

You shouldn't be. Barkley might be the best RB in the league starting day one. Kid is that good.

And I have a feeling that Chubb will be ransacking NFC East QB's for several years. He's that good.

[Cactus Jack]

I'm actually torn on this one. Do I prefer having to stop Barkley or Chubb?

Hell - I hope the Giants take a QB!

You shouldn't be. Barkley might be the best RB in the league starting day one. Kid is that good.

And I have a feeling that Chubb will be ransacking NFC East QB's for several years. He's that good.

I'll admit I'm mainly going off what I saw from Saquon (in person) at the Fiesta Bowl. I've never seen a back do the things he can do. Keep in mind, UW had a pretty good defense under Chris Peterson last year (With Vita Vea on that line) & he still ran right through that defense. Sliced em up.

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Chubb is impressive (albeit watching highlight reels typically are lol).

[Otis Driftwood]

You shouldn't be. Barkley might be the best RB in the league starting day one. Kid is that good.

And I have a feeling that Chubb will be ransacking NFC East QB's for several years. He's that good.

I'll admit I'm mainly going off what I saw from Saquon (in person) at the Fiesta Bowl. I've never seen a back do the things he can do. Keep in mind, UW had a pretty good defense under Chris Peterson last year (With Vita Vea on that line) & he still ran right through that defense. Sliced em up.

Watch on YouTube

Chubb is impressive (albeit watching highlight reels typically are lol).

Oh - if it were me making the pick for the Browns it wouldn't take a nanosecond. I'd grab Barkley at one and take my pick of QB at 4 and be pretty damn happy with the haul. He's going to do for whoever grabs him what Zeke did for the Cowboys. I would just prefer it not be the Giants.

Provincially speaking...

[Cactus Jack]

And I have a feeling that Chubb will be ransacking NFC East QB's for several years. He's that good.

I'll admit I'm mainly going off what I saw from Saquon (in person) at the Fiesta Bowl. I've never seen a back do the things he can do. Keep in mind, UW had a pretty good defense under Chris Peterson last year (With Vita Vea on that line) & he still ran right through that defense. Sliced em up.

Watch on YouTube

Chubb is impressive (albeit watching highlight reels typically are lol).

Oh - if it were me making the pick for the Browns it wouldn't take a nanosecond. I'd grab Barkley at one and take my pick of QB at 4 and be pretty damn happy with the haul. He's going to do for whoever grabs him what Zeke did for the Cowboys. I would just prefer it not be the Giants.

Provincially speaking...

Or Take Barkley at 1. Chubb/Nelson at 4. Assuming your QB of choice is off the board.

Cleveland has so much draft capital at this point, they might as well just trade up from #4 to #2.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I'm not at all worried about any of the QB's in this year's draft class. Last year was a much better crop of QB's.

[nymets1]

If Cleveland is happy to get any of the top quarterbacks at least 2 or more of them as their QB, They have to take Saquon Barkley with the 1st overall pick. Barkley can easily go 2nd or 3rd overall pick. If Cleveland is happy to get either Darnold, Rosen, Allen or Mayfield they can get their QB at their 4th pick. I would make sure I take Barkley 1st, He's got star written all over him.

[Bulltalk]

The draft is going to be great to watch till about the time Vita Vea and Lamar Jackson get picked. As a Seahawks fan, I was of course hoping for a best case scenario of somehow ending up with 4 day-two picks. I was hoping they could trade Thomas for a high pick, then trade that down for two, then trade their first for a second and a third, or something like that. That's about the only way I thought this draft could be saved for us.

[Cactus Jack]

The draft is going to be great to watch till about the time Vita Vea and Lamar Jackson get picked. As a Seahawks fan, I was of course hoping for a best case scenario of somehow ending up with 4 day-two picks. I was hoping they could trade Thomas for a high pick, then trade that down for two, then trade their first for a second and a third, or something like that. That's about the only way I thought this draft could be saved for us.

Expect us to trade back (from 18) with Cleveland (Picks 33 & 64).

[Bulltalk]

The draft is going to be great to watch till about the time Vita Vea and Lamar Jackson get picked. As a Seahawks fan, I was of course hoping for a best case scenario of somehow ending up with 4 day-two picks. I was hoping they could trade Thomas for a high pick, then trade that down for two, then trade their first for a second and a third, or something like that. That's about the only way I thought this draft could be saved for us.

Expect us to trade back (from 18) with Cleveland (Picks 33 & 64).

Could be. I also read in one mock draft of a trade in which Denver would trade us their 40th and 96th pick in this year's draft, and their first round pick next year for our 18th pick. There's a lot of these going around, especially considering that even my dead grandmother knows the Seahawks are going to trade out of their first round pick.

[Cactus Jack]

The draft is going to be great to watch till about the time Vita Vea and Lamar Jackson get picked. As a Seahawks fan, I was of course hoping for a best case scenario of somehow ending up with 4 day-two picks. I was hoping they could trade Thomas for a high pick, then trade that down for two, then trade their first for a second and a third, or something like that. That's about the only way I thought this draft could be saved for us.

Expect us to trade back (from 18) with Cleveland (Picks 33 & 64).

Could be. I also read in one mock draft of a trade in which Denver would trade us their 40th and 96th pick in this year's draft, and their first round pick next year for our 18th pick. There's a lot of these going around, especially considering that even my dead grandmother knows the Seahawks are going to trade out of their first round pick.

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[The Box Office]

The Buffalo Bills will draft Lamar Jackson at pick number 12.

[FNQ]

Here's my *entirely unsourced* opinion of how things did go down, and will go down:

First off, the Jets trade - we all were caught off guard. On it's face, its stupid. Not that trading up is stupid, but trading up with so much inherent risk is stupid. And the names that have been leaked that they like (Rosen, Mayfield) just seem too convenient. A lot of mocks have at least one of those 2 there at 6. I know mocks aren't accurate 99% of the time, but bear with me here.

I think that it may have actually been a stroke of genius, and here's why. The Browns tipped their hand about liking Allen early and often. The problem with that? It's entirely asinine. That he's even ahead of Lamar Jackson is pretty crazy. So why leak it? Simple - maybe they didnt want to use the #1 on a QB. Maybe they believed the guy they wanted would be there at 4, and that since no one is going to move up for Allen, no one would want to leapfrog them. And the guy they truly wanted all along - his name is Baker Mayfield - would have been there at 4, allowing them to take either Barkley or Chubb #1.

But the Jets come in, and start professing their love for Mayfield at #3. And here's the beautiful part: they do not want Baker Mayfield. Or Josh Rosen. They are playing the exact same game the Browns are, making it so no one gives a godfather offer to the Giants. So now they've put the pressure on the Browns - take Mayfield #1 or he won't be there at 4. And with the Browns under so much pressure to get the guy they actually want.. they take Baker Mayfield #1 overall.

Now here's the Giants at 2, not wanting a QB. But definitely wanting an elite talent. So who do they talk to? The Broncos at 5. They absolutely are in the QB market. But here's the rub - if the Browns have taken a QB #1, and the Broncos know the Giants dont want to take 1.. they now stand pat. The Giants take either Barkley or Chubb - it doesnt matter, whoever falls is going to the Browns at 4.

And who is left at #3? Who the Jets wanted all along, Sam MFing Darnold. A guy they would have had, in most people's minds, to trade up to #1 to get, thus making their trade an absolute steal. Browns take Chubb/Barkley #4, the Broncos pick between Allen/Rosen at 5, and then it's a free-for-all between QB needy teams hitting up the Colts for the #6 pick to take either Rosen, or choose between Allen/Jackson.

tl;dr - the Jets trade was actually genius, and I think the Browns are going to stun the world with their #1 pick of Baker Mayfield.

[FNQ]

The Buffalo Bills will draft Lamar Jackson at pick number 12.

I honestly do not believe he will be there at 12. The top 4 QBs should go in the top 6 picks (assuming IND is willing to trade down) meaning a QB needy team will need to jump in the top 10 to get Jackson, as they should. The Bucs, the Bears, the 9ers, and the Raiders all should be very interested in moving down, and teams like the Cardinals, Ravens, Bengals, and Dolphins all should be very interested in moving up to take a QB. With a dark horse being the Pats moving up. Also wouldnt shock me to see PIT or JAX move up.. but I'm pretty sure teams are looking at MIA/BUF and thinking that those are the teams they need to jump to get one of the top 5 QBs in this draft.

[The Box Office]

The Buffalo Bills will draft Lamar Jackson at pick number 12.

I honestly do not believe he will be there at 12.The top 4 QBs should go in the top 6 picks (assuming IND is willing to trade down) meaning a QB needy team will need to jump in the top 10 to get Jackson, as they should. The Bucs, the Bears, the 9ers, and the Raiders all should be very interested in moving down, and teams like the Cardinals, Ravens, Bengals, and Dolphins all should be very interested in moving up to take a QB. With a dark horse being the Pats moving up. Also wouldnt shock me to see PIT or JAX move up.. but I'm pretty sure teams are looking at MIA/BUF and thinking that those are the teams they need to jump to get one of the top 5 QBs in this draft.

You're speaking for yourself, correct? Wild trade scenarios here. Draft day trades (to jump into Top 10) do not happen often. I don't know why those teams you listed will trade down. To get more picks? Is that all? Why? Most of them will stay pat and get their guy in the top 10. It's hard enough to get crack into Top 10 in the first place. Most teams don't trade down unless it's a big deal for a Top 10 pick.

I'm not worried about the Pats. They do not have enough in their draft pick stock pile to jump ahead of the Buffalo Bills to get Jackson.

Steelers don't have enough either to move up. They have the 28th pick. That's too low to trade up.

Jacksonville? They're set with Blake Bortles at QB. They have the 29th pick. That's too low to trade up past Buffalo.

Cardinals have the 15th pick. It's going to be very difficult for them to move up when Buffalo has the 12th pick work to trade, too.

Baltimore has 16th pick. Nope, don't see B-More trading up and they still have Joe Flacco at QB. I think they stick with him for another 2 years.

Cincy Bengals have Andy Dalton and the 21st pick. Nah, I don't see them making much trade noise.

The only true threats that can wreck Lamar Jackson to Buffalo Bills are Miami Dolphins and any team currently in the Top 10. Dolphins fan base and beat writers are big on Vita Vea, Roquan Smith, and Minkah Fitzpatrick. Their QB position is not high on their list according to them. The QB they want is Josh Rosen. Some want Lamar Jackson, but they're not screaming for him.

We'll see on Draft Night.