Wade & Butler want Bulls to drop Rondo

[Pharaoh]

There's a reason Wade and Butler want Rondo out. And it's not because he's a good player.

It's because he called them out for poor leadership!

I found it hilarious at the time but maybe Rondo has learnt some lessons on his way from Boston to Dallas to Sacramento to Chicago?

I'd trade RJ for him - and expect a pick back as well

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[Finn McCool]

you all realize that this isn't rondo of 8 or 9 years ago, and nobody is going to build an offense around him, right?

Would you rather have Rondo for one year or Reggie for another 3?

what's behind door number 3?

Exactly.

[mattao313]

I never understand why people want to add the rondo's, Paytons, and Rubio's of the world to a offensively challenged team.

Rondo and Rubio make other guys better, take a look at their post all-star 3pt% by the way

They're both player that run around hunting for assist and can't score which for a PG is as important as defense for the center. Both are bench player or have to be surrounded by a bevy of talent or else it doesn't work it's a reason Thibs been trying to trade Rubio and looking for other PGs including Reggie Jackson.

[roc]

Now-a-days you need 5 guys that can shoot if you want to match the Warriors. No thanks Rondo.

by the time Pistons are contenders the Warriors run will be long over.

[ImHeisenberg]

I'd swap Rondo in if we're sending Jackson out, and maybe Denzel Valentine coming with Rondo.

[Pharaoh]

I'd swap Rondo in if we're sending Jackson out, and maybe Denzel Valentine coming with Rondo.

I'd accept that instead of a Bulls pick

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[kellmellus50]

Rondo been released

[flow]

Now-a-days you need 5 guys that can shoot if you want to match the Warriors. No thanks Rondo.

Guess we're about to see.




* Incidentally, anyone care to retract their post(s) in here?

[vege]

Now-a-days you need 5 guys that can shoot if you want to match the Warriors. No thanks Rondo.

Guess we're about to see.




* Incidentally, anyone care to retract their post(s) in here?

Small sample, only 1 series, 4 games (Rondo has always been great during playoffs tho), Solomon Hill has a 74% TS, shall we call him the most efficient player of all time?

[flow]

Now-a-days you need 5 guys that can shoot if you want to match the Warriors. No thanks Rondo.

Guess we're about to see.




* Incidentally, anyone care to retract their post(s) in here?

Small sample, only 1 series, 4 games (Rondo has always been great during playoffs tho), Solomon Hill has a 74% TS, shall we call him the most efficient player of all time?

Wow.

It's a 4-game sample only if they were the first 4 Pelicans games you paid any attention to all season. And the analogy is cringe.

[vic]

I've always loved pass first defensive pgs. I never understood the hate for Rubio & Rondo. Hi IQ and defense wins games when it counts.

Plus when your pg is not Shoot first you can invest/develop more into superstar forwards.

[Crymson]

Now-a-days you need 5 guys that can shoot if you want to match the Warriors. No thanks Rondo.

Guess we're about to see.

* Incidentally, anyone care to retract their post(s) in here?

I truly don't see the relevance. Had he come to the Pistons, would Anthony Davis have joined him here as well?

[vic]

great thing about pass first pgs is that you don't need a good coach anymore. If your pg or SG is smarter than the coach, you don't need the smartest coach in the league to win.

The Pistons have had this problem ever since Chauncey left. Subpar coaches and not enough IQ on the floor (except for that short past-prime Jose Calderon moment).

This is something that the next GM needs to understand.

Say you picked a coach that's not as good as you thought.
If you draft/sign a couple of High Iq pass first guys, a bad coach can't hurt you as much.

[flow]

Now-a-days you need 5 guys that can shoot if you want to match the Warriors. No thanks Rondo.

Guess we're about to see.

* Incidentally, anyone care to retract their post(s) in here?

I truly don't see the relevance. Had he come to the Pistons, would Anthony Davis have joined him here as well?

Wow again.

Not sure what exactly you're implying, but none of the possibilities make any sense. Rondo makes any team better. Not just ones with Anthony Davis on the roster. You don't think he would have gotten this team to the playoffs? He absolutely would have. He would have completely ignored SVG's coaching drivel and led this team to the postseason. Rondo leading Drummond and Griffin? I'd pay good money to see it.

But again, if you don't pay attention to how Rondo impacts the Pelicans, and other teams he's played for, then I don't expect you to understand.

[Crymson]

Not sure what exactly you're implying, but none of the possibilities make any sense. Rondo makes any team better. Not just ones with Anthony Davis on the roster.

Rondo makes specific teams better. He makes other teams worse. His lack of shooting makes good fit a required quality. I'd have thought you'd noticed that over the past five seasons.

You don't think he would have gotten this team to the playoffs? He absolutely would have. He would have completely ignored SVG's coaching drivel and led this team to the postseason.

That's a stretch. Rondo's defiance of coaches in the past has never been a good thing, has always been toxic, and has resulted in him being benched.

Rondo leading Drummond and Griffin? I'd pay good money to see it.

The opposition would pay good money to make it happen. Three confirmed non-shooters on the floor? Sounds like a great way to lose in today's NBA.

But again, if you don't pay attention to how Rondo impacts the Pelicans, and other teams he's played for, then I don't expect you to understand.

That's a hoot. Seems your knowledge of the modern NBA rests several years in the past. It's for good reason that Rondo was awful in Dallas, mediocre in Sacramento, and bad in Chicago. I see you're conveniently ignoring those examples.

[flow]

Not sure what exactly you're implying, but none of the possibilities make any sense. Rondo makes any team better. Not just ones with Anthony Davis on the roster.

Rondo makes specific teams better. He makes other teams worse. His lack of shooting makes good fit a required quality. I'd have thought you'd noticed that over the past five seasons.

You don't think he would have gotten this team to the playoffs? He absolutely would have. He would have completely ignored SVG's coaching drivel and led this team to the postseason.

That's a stretch. Rondo's defiance of coaches in the past has never been a good thing, has always been toxic, and has resulted in him being benched.

Rondo leading Drummond and Griffin? I'd pay good money to see it.

The opposition would pay good money to make it happen. Three confirmed non-shooters on the floor? Sounds like a great way to lose in today's NBA.

But again, if you don't pay attention to how Rondo impacts the Pelicans, and other teams he's played for, then I don't expect you to understand.

That's a hoot. Seems your knowledge of the modern NBA rests several years in the past. It's for good reason that Rondo was awful in Dallas, mediocre in Sacramento, and bad in Chicago. I see you're conveniently ignoring those examples.

Rondo owned Boston in games 1 & 2 of their playoff series last year. He dominated the way he dominates. Like a symphony conductor. Chicago up 2-0 on the road. Then Rondo's lost for the rest of the series with a broken thumb and Chicago loses 4 straight. Yeah, he was bad in Chicago. Lol.
There's literally one example of him being a negative, and that's Dallas. His impact this year has been incredible. The Pelicans aren't here and aren't playing this way without him. Don't be naive.