2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2

[KennySkyWalker]

He’s a stretch 4 now and shot decently from 3 on the year(35/6%).

Not good enough, this is the playoffs. He was tied for 121st in 3 point shooting during the regular season. During the playoffs I think he's under 25%. But his problem is he just stands still on offense which puts him to sleep. Can't do that in the playoffs. Need to keep moving those feet and anticipate ahead of time where the openings are on the floor.

Melo shot 6 times and he was literally 3rd in shot attempts.

He’s not getting the ball period. No one other than Russ and PG really gets it. It’s whatever. They take turns iso-ing. I don’t know what to tell ya.

I don't know maybe it's because they don't trust his wide open butt to make a shot.

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[Greenie]

Not good enough, this is the playoffs. He was tied for 121st in 3 point shooting during the regular season. During the playoffs I think he's under 25%. But his problem is he just stands still on offense which puts him to sleep. Can't do that in the playoffs. Need to keep moving those feet and anticipate ahead of time where the openings are on the floor.

Melo shot 6 times and he was literally 3rd in shot attempts.

He’s not getting the ball period. No one other than Russ and PG really gets it. It’s whatever. They take turns iso-ing. I don’t know what to tell ya.

I don't know maybe it's because they don't trust his wide open butt to make a shot.

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Him or anyone else. Melo is shooting a better % than Russ. I said it earlier in this thread...OKC is building brick buildings.

[Kinglee]

Not good enough, this is the playoffs. He was tied for 121st in 3 point shooting during the regular season. During the playoffs I think he's under 25%. But his problem is he just stands still on offense which puts him to sleep. Can't do that in the playoffs. Need to keep moving those feet and anticipate ahead of time where the openings are on the floor.

Melo shot 6 times and he was literally 3rd in shot attempts.

He’s not getting the ball period. No one other than Russ and PG really gets it. It’s whatever. They take turns iso-ing. I don’t know what to tell ya.

I don't know maybe it's because they don't trust his wide open butt to make a shot.

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[BKlutch]

Melo shot 6 times and he was literally 3rd in shot attempts.

He’s not getting the ball period. No one other than Russ and PG really gets it. It’s whatever. They take turns iso-ing. I don’t know what to tell ya.

I don't know maybe it's because they don't trust his wide open butt to make a shot.

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Him or anyone else. Melo is shooting a better % than Russ. I said it earlier in this thread...OKC is building brick buildings.

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You said it, but you're wrong.
In the playoffs:
1. FG%: Melo .369, lowest on the entire team. Westbrook: .390 (not a lot better)
2. 3Pt FG%: Melo .214, second lowest on the team. Wesbrook: .348
Who won the game yesterday for them?

In the regular season:
1. FG%: Melo .404, Westbrook .449
2. 3Pt FG%: Melo .357 Wesbrook .298
Westrook took on average 50% more shots than Melo, but Melo shot 50% more 3 pt attemps than Westbrook.

[Dr. Detfink]

Once again, the NBA playoffs are letting me down and dragging out a script I've read before.

[NBA Fan 1234]

TS% weighs in RW’s favor too. RW isn’t playing well on either end, but he did yesterday and Melo is yet to show up besides one game where he was a -12(?) or something like that anyway.

[Reign23]

Keep blamin westbrook. Dude is a monster foh

yes he is a monster but he had 4 1/2 reaaaaally bad games now until the 2nd half.

[BKlutch]

TS% weighs in RW’s favor too. RW isn’t playing well on either end, but he did yesterday and Melo is yet to show up besides one game where he was a -12(?) or something like that anyway.

I'm shocked. Totally shocked.

[Reign23]

A whopping 0 assist again with a huge 7 point game. And peope still pointing thier fingers elsewhere. It's an easy problem okc

I think we all got your messenge. melo sucks. you hate melo. anything else?

[Reign23]

I hope they finally play melo with the bench and around 25-28 minutes. not guarding starters and play 100 minutes could really help his efficiency.

melo sucks, especially in this series, there is no doubt about it. but I don't know if his benching was the reason for russ turning from missing easy layups like shumpert to draining every pull up 3 like steph.

really looking forward to game 6, should be epic. if okc wins this series, this has to be the biggest comeback in nba history.

[Tron Carter]

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yup, he’s cooked.

[Greenie]

A whopping 0 assist again with a huge 7 point game. And peope still pointing thier fingers elsewhere. It's an easy problem okc

I think we all got your messenge. melo sucks. you hate melo. anything else?

People are nutting to it.

[Greenie]

TS% weighs in RW’s favor too. RW isn’t playing well on either end, but he did yesterday and Melo is yet to show up besides one game where he was a -12(?) or something like that anyway.

BKlutch is on my foe list so there’s that.


I was talking simply playoffs. And before this game Melo was shooting a higher %. It was still bad as all hell though. Melo was shooting something like 39% and Russ was shooting 36% for the series before last night.

[NBA Fan 1234]

TS% weighs in RW’s favor too. RW isn’t playing well on either end, but he did yesterday and Melo is yet to show up besides one game where he was a -12(?) or something like that anyway.

BKlutch is on my foe list so there’s that.


I was talking simply playoffs. And before this game Melo was shooting a higher %. It was still bad as all hell though. Melo was shooting something like 39% and Russ was shooting 36% for the series before last night.

And yet still less efficient. 46.5% TS% for RW and 45.3% TS% for Melo.

[Greenie]

TS% weighs in RW’s favor too. RW isn’t playing well on either end, but he did yesterday and Melo is yet to show up besides one game where he was a -12(?) or something like that anyway.

BKlutch is on my foe list so there’s that.


I was talking simply playoffs. And before this game Melo was shooting a higher %. It was still bad as all hell though. Melo was shooting something like 39% and Russ was shooting 36% for the series before last night.

And yet still less efficient. 46.5% TS% for RW and 45.3% TS% for Melo.

Now you know I don’t look at or even like advanced stats. I don’t even use them against players I don’t like.

Either you’re making your shots or you’re not. With that said Russ only being 1.2% higher than Melo is a damn problem too. However I wonder what the entire teams shooting numbers look like. Just from watching the games I would bet you would be hard pressed to find someone shooting well.

As I said before, OKC is building brick buildings. That’s not excusing Melo at all. He’s shooting like crap. He’s a part of the team and therefore a part of the problem, but I will not lay an entire teams performance at his feet like people are still trying to do here.

As far as my solutions to OKC’s problem?
I have none really. They need a bench and some shooting. You can put Melo on the bench but who do you start? Patterson isn’t a 5. They could really use O’Quinn AND Lee.
Then they can really cut Melo’s minutes to under 30 per game.

Adams/KOQ
Melo/Patterson
PG/Brewer
Roberson/Lee
Russ/They still need a backup point.

That’s not happening before this series is over.

[Greenie]

...and I already said Utah might take this.

[NBA Fan 1234]

BKlutch is on my foe list so there’s that.


I was talking simply playoffs. And before this game Melo was shooting a higher %. It was still bad as all hell though. Melo was shooting something like 39% and Russ was shooting 36% for the series before last night.

And yet still less efficient. 46.5% TS% for RW and 45.3% TS% for Melo.

Now you know I don’t look at or even like advanced stats. I don’t even use them against players I don’t like.

Either you’re making your shots or you’re not. With that said Russ only being 1.2% higher than Melo is a damn problem too. However I wonder what the entire teams shooting numbers look like. Just from watching the games I would bet you would be hard pressed to find someone shooting well.

As I said before, OKC is building brick buildings. That’s not excusing Melo at all. He’s shooting liks crap. He’s a part of the team and therefore a part of the problem, but I will not lay an entire teams performance at his feet like people are still trying to do here.

As far as my solutions to OKC’s problem?
I have none. They need a bench and some shooting. You can put Melo on the bench but who do you start? Patterson isn’t a 5. They could really use O’Quinn AND Lee.
Then they can really cut Melo’s minutes to under 30 per game.

Adams/KOQ
Melo/Patterson
PG/Brewer
Roberson/Lee
Russ/They still need a backup point.

Advanced stats are useful, though. Melo has the lowest TS% on the entire team...by a good amount, too.

Starting Pat Pat spaces the floor more and gives them a better defensive presence than Melo does. Grant gives the team someone who can get to the FT line, defend better, and allow PG and RW to do their things without hurting the team on offense. It's not like they don't have options. The thing is, Melo is Melo and won't go to the bench - or Donovan doesn't feel like he can put him on the bench. Fact is, he doesn't help the team when he's playing anymore. He's still atrocious on defense, stands around when he doesn't have the ball, still isolates way too often (and takes too many jumpers out of isolation), and he's even missing open jumpers he gets.

Felton has actually been a decent backup PG this year. I agree they can use more depth and shooting and that KOQ/Lee would have fit what they need perfectly. Not sure why they haven't even tried Dakari (they have nothing to lose), but it is what it is.

Spent 2 hours talking with one of my friends on the phone before the series started and had Utah in 6, so I'm not surprised at all.

[Greenie]

And yet still less efficient. 46.5% TS% for RW and 45.3% TS% for Melo.

Now you know I don’t look at or even like advanced stats. I don’t even use them against players I don’t like.

Either you’re making your shots or you’re not. With that said Russ only being 1.2% higher than Melo is a damn problem too. However I wonder what the entire teams shooting numbers look like. Just from watching the games I would bet you would be hard pressed to find someone shooting well.

As I said before, OKC is building brick buildings. That’s not excusing Melo at all. He’s shooting liks crap. He’s a part of the team and therefore a part of the problem, but I will not lay an entire teams performance at his feet like people are still trying to do here.

As far as my solutions to OKC’s problem?
I have none. They need a bench and some shooting. You can put Melo on the bench but who do you start? Patterson isn’t a 5. They could really use O’Quinn AND Lee.
Then they can really cut Melo’s minutes to under 30 per game.

Adams/KOQ
Melo/Patterson
PG/Brewer
Roberson/Lee
Russ/They still need a backup point.

Advanced stats are useful, though. Melo has the lowest TS% on the entire team...by a good amount, too.

Starting Pat Pat spaces the floor more and gives them a better defensive presence than Melo does. Grant gives the team someone who can get to the FT line, defend better, and allow PG and RW to do their things without hurting the team on offense. It's not like they don't have options. The thing is, Melo is Melo and won't go to the bench - or Donovan doesn't feel like he can put him on the bench. Fact is, he doesn't help the team when he's playing anymore. He's still atrocious on defense, stands around when he doesn't have the ball, still isolates way too often (and takes too many jumpers out of isolation), and he's even missing open jumpers he gets.

Felton has actually been a decent backup PG this year. I agree they can use more depth and shooting and that KOQ/Lee would have fit what they need perfectly. Not sure why they haven't even tried Dakari (they have nothing to lose), but it is what it is.

Spent 2 hours talking with one of my friends on the phone before the series started and had Utah in 6, so I'm not surprised at all.

I don’t like advanced stats at all. Never will. Raw stats are fine by me.

I can’t defend Melo in this series as he’s playing bad. I’m really just saying the team is playing bad.

I don’t know about not being able to put Melo on the bench. They never asked. Maybe they should and if he says no then buy him out if he says no. Melo is about to be 34. It’s over. That hurts because I watched him literally wast away here while being blamed for everything. He should have never came to NY he would have a ring.

[NBA Fan 1234]

You can't just dismiss advanced stats, though. Like all stats, they need to have context surrounding them, but straightforward ones like TS% are almost always clear enough to use.

I agree the team is playing poorly. I just think that if Donovan wants to get to game 7, he needs to start Pat Pat (or, I guess, Grant). I'd really limit Melo's minutes generally speaking, to be honest. No reason to keep him on the court the way he's playing.

[KnickFan33]

Now you know I don’t look at or even like advanced stats. I don’t even use them against players I don’t like.

Either you’re making your shots or you’re not. With that said Russ only being 1.2% higher than Melo is a damn problem too. However I wonder what the entire teams shooting numbers look like. Just from watching the games I would bet you would be hard pressed to find someone shooting well.

As I said before, OKC is building brick buildings. That’s not excusing Melo at all. He’s shooting liks crap. He’s a part of the team and therefore a part of the problem, but I will not lay an entire teams performance at his feet like people are still trying to do here.

As far as my solutions to OKC’s problem?
I have none. They need a bench and some shooting. You can put Melo on the bench but who do you start? Patterson isn’t a 5. They could really use O’Quinn AND Lee.
Then they can really cut Melo’s minutes to under 30 per game.

Adams/KOQ
Melo/Patterson
PG/Brewer
Roberson/Lee
Russ/They still need a backup point.

Advanced stats are useful, though. Melo has the lowest TS% on the entire team...by a good amount, too.

Starting Pat Pat spaces the floor more and gives them a better defensive presence than Melo does. Grant gives the team someone who can get to the FT line, defend better, and allow PG and RW to do their things without hurting the team on offense. It's not like they don't have options. The thing is, Melo is Melo and won't go to the bench - or Donovan doesn't feel like he can put him on the bench. Fact is, he doesn't help the team when he's playing anymore. He's still atrocious on defense, stands around when he doesn't have the ball, still isolates way too often (and takes too many jumpers out of isolation), and he's even missing open jumpers he gets.

Felton has actually been a decent backup PG this year. I agree they can use more depth and shooting and that KOQ/Lee would have fit what they need perfectly. Not sure why they haven't even tried Dakari (they have nothing to lose), but it is what it is.

Spent 2 hours talking with one of my friends on the phone before the series started and had Utah in 6, so I'm not surprised at all.

I don’t like advanced stats at all. Never will. Raw stats are fine by me.

I can’t defend Melo in this series as he’s playing bad. I’m really just saying the team is playing bad.

I don’t know about not being able to put Melo on the bench. They never asked. Maybe they should and if he says no then buy him out if he says no. Melo is about to be 34. It’s over. That hurts because I watched him literally wast away here while being blamed for everything. He should have never came to NY he would have a ring.

What's the logic behind having to ask any player to play off the bench? If the coach think's that's what's best, a player shouldn't really have a say in the situation. Those that fight it aren't team players. Even Kobe realized it was time to retire when he was told his minutes needed to be cut in order to give young players more playing time.