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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#421 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:52 pm

Bulltalk wrote:Ha. Mel Kiper shifted the Brown's #1 pick to Baker Mayfield in his final mock draft.

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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#422 » by Roddy B for 3 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:15 pm

Rosen
Jackson
Mayfield
Darnoald
Allen
Is my top 5 QB ranking

Nelson
Florida St. safety
Chubb
Bradley
Fitzpatrick

Are my non qb can't misses

I just want the Saints to draft an impact player idc the position. If their isn't someone with a grade way to high to be available when we pick and a top 5 QB falls, I'm good with taking a QB. Wveryone says TE is a need, I like the thought of adding an extra WR.

Chubb, Georgia MLB, Nelson, Fitzpatrick, Jackson and Rosen would be the picks that would get me most excited. VT MLB Edwards is the next guy on that list.

Overall, I just hope someone falls to 27 or we trade back and get a first round talent in a later round + get the extra picks.

After last year's draft, I'm going to defend this team if we trade up to draft a punter. (Hyperboel the point is I trust the team). I just hope they put in the work this year like last year and didn't get to caught up in their own success as opposed to what got them last year's class.

If we can get a draft class like last years, weight be SB favorites in December/January and for the rest of Brees' time in NOLA.
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#423 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:17 pm

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Bulltalk wrote:Ha. Mel Kiper shifted the Brown's #1 pick to Baker Mayfield in his final mock draft.

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The real news is re the #4: who wants to jump over the Broncos for Rosen or Allen?? I also take this to mean that the Browns are not in on Chubb or Barkley at all (or at least know who will be there, and don’t want him).

Attention Buffalo Bills and Arizona Cardinals: this how you ensure you get a good QB. Rosen is now a top 4 pick.
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#424 » by Bulltalk » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:40 pm

FNQ wrote:
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Bulltalk wrote:Ha. Mel Kiper shifted the Brown's #1 pick to Baker Mayfield in his final mock draft.

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The real news is re the #4: who wants to jump over the Broncos for Rosen or Allen?? I also take this to mean that the Browns are not in on Chubb or Barkley at all (or at least know who will be there, and don’t want him).

Attention Buffalo Bills and Arizona Cardinals: this how you ensure you get a good QB. Rosen is now a top 4 pick.


I've sort of thought all along that Cleveland wanted their QB of choice and Barkley. I'm probably wrong. I just believed they really wanted to make a splash with their top two picks if they kept them, and this would fit the bill for the franchise and its fans. In some ways, there's no better protection for a QB than a great running back, and Barkley is just that.

I was thinking if Barkley was available at #4, they'd take him. If not, they'd take Chubb or trade down for more draft capital, but probably not too far. From all I hear, there's only really about 14-15 true first rounders this year. There's a lot of 2nd and 3rd round talent. If they don't get Barkley, they can certainly get a quality back in the 2nd round. It's hard to believe that Cleveland could eff this draft up.

We're going to finally find out the answers to all these intrigues. Should be fun.

PS> Being a Pac 12 guy, I came around to thinking last year that Sam Darnold was just poorly coached, that he could greatly benefit from good coaching at the pro level if he ends up in the right situation. Just something that struck me.
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#425 » by hermes » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:35 pm

so who do you guys think goes #1?

i'll say darnold, i'm not buying these draft-week smokescreens
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Post#426 » by nymets1 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:57 pm

hermes wrote:so who do you guys think goes #1?

i'll say darnold, i'm not buying these draft-week smokescreens


Me I would take BPA at #1 that's Barkley. I wish our UCF players can stay in Florida and get drafted by (Bucs, Jags or Dolphins), Jaguars preferrably cause they can be on the same team with former UCF greats( Blake Bortles and AJ Bouye)
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#427 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:01 pm

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hermes wrote:so who do you guys think goes #1?

i'll say darnold, i'm not buying these draft-week smokescreens


Me I would take BPA at #1 that's Barkley. I wish our UCF players can stay in Florida and get drafted by (Bucs, Jags or Dolphins), Jaguars preferrably cause they can be on the same team with former UCF greats( Blake Bortles and AJ Bouye)

Shaquem is destined to be a Seahawk. Him & his brother together. :wink:

Bob McGinn (another extremely well sourced reporter) says the league thinks Seattle will draft Shaquem Griffin at some point:

Some teams appear convinced that Griffin will join his twin brother, Shaquill, as a member of the Seattle Seahawks. Shaquill, a third-round pick last year from UCF, had a strong rookie season as a starting cornerback.

“Just the vibe I’m getting from things,” said one scout. “Some of the comments made by some of their guys about the type of kid he is and the football player he is and what he embodies.”

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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#428 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:04 pm

I think Mayfield is a safe #1 now

Expect the Bulls to use both 1sts to trade up for #4, get Rosen (they would get a 3rd or 4th back from CLE as well), giving CLE 3 FRPs

Cardinals jump into the 6-10 range for Josh Allen

Miami holds at 11, land Lamar Jackson

Pats hold with their two firsts, trying to take Kolton Miller and Mason Rudolph

Derrick Guice is a late 1st rounder

Calvin Ridley is a day 2 pick

Marcus Davenport winds up a Seahawk but not at pick 18
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#429 » by WMDman » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:04 pm

hermes wrote:so who do you guys think goes #1?

i'll say darnold, i'm not buying these draft-week smokescreens

gotta be Darnold
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Post#430 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:06 pm

One thing that I can’t stress enough: if Bills benched and traded T-Mobile just to draft Lamar Jackson, they screwed up big time. That’s why I think they push the envelope and go for Rosen, the top unspoken for QB w Mayfield at 1 and Darnold at 3
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#431 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:08 pm

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hermes wrote:so who do you guys think goes #1?

i'll say darnold, i'm not buying these draft-week smokescreens

gotta be Darnold


Why on earth would the Browns smokescreen the #1 pick?

I’ll take Mayfield against the field for the #1 pick if anyone feels like gambling with sigs or avatars :D
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#432 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:14 pm

FNQ wrote:
WMDman wrote:
hermes wrote:so who do you guys think goes #1?

i'll say darnold, i'm not buying these draft-week smokescreens

gotta be Darnold


Why on earth would the Browns smokescreen the #1 pick?

I’ll take Mayfield against the field for the #1 pick if anyone feels like gambling with sigs or avatars :D

Scot McCloughan and Eliot Wolf were pushing hard for Baker Mayfield in the Browns' war room, and it seems they may get their way. As someone told me, “McCloughan got John Dorsey to believe Mayfield will be the next Brett Favre.”


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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#433 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:16 pm

A year ago Tony Pauline correctly reported the Seahawks had a deal in place to trade down with the Atlanta Falcons. Hours before the start of the draft, Tony is now predicting the Seahawks will trade with Cleveland. The Browns would get #18 to draft a left tackle (Mike McGlinchey or Kolton Miller) and the Seahawks would get picks #33 and #35. That would be an incredible haul for Seattle.

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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#434 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:17 pm

If you want a smokescreen, see all this Rosen over Darnold stuff the Jets are leaking, immediately after Mayfield was leaked as #1.

Translation: for the love of god please don’t trade up to #2 for Darnold. Think only the Broncos and Bills can entice the Giants enough for a top 2 pick in this draft.

Side note: people are accusing the Bills of leaking the racist tweets of Josh Allen in the hopes they could land him later. The logic isn’t bad there. The morality though..
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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#435 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:18 pm

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The talk leading up to the start of the draft is about trades, many which won’t occur. One that could very well happen is the Seattle Seahawks getting their wish and trading out of the first round. As we suggested in our mock draft, the Cleveland Browns will move up to the 18th pick and select offensive tackle Mike McGlinchey or Kolton Miller, whichever player is available. Seattle would then receive both of the Browns' draft picks at the top of Round 2, satisfying their desire to move out of the first.

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Don’t think mcglinchey lasts past OAK, don’t think Miller lasts past BAL. Raiders still might trade down if they get an offer though
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Post#436 » by Bulltalk » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:21 pm

Is Barkley a slam dunk at #2? Any chance they trade down or pick Darnold?
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Post#437 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:24 pm

Bulltalk wrote:Is Barkley a slam dunk at #2? Any chance they trade down or pick Darnold?

No way. I even think Chubb is more likely than Barkley.

Big chance they trade down if DEN believes the Jets are lying about Darnold/Rosen. Small chance that BUF gets there, but they supposedly want Allen, so really they could try and get him at 5-10 if Denver moves up for Darnold.
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Post#438 » by Bulltalk » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:25 pm

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Bulltalk wrote:Is Barkley a slam dunk at #2? Any chance they trade down or pick Darnold?

No way. I even think Chubb is more likely than Barkley.

Big chance they trade down if DEN believes the Jets are lying about Darnold/Rosen. Small chance that BUF gets there, but they supposedly want Allen, so really they could try and get him at 5-10 if Denver moves up for Darnold.


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Re: NFL Draft Discussion 

Post#439 » by FNQ » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:31 pm

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FNQ wrote:
Bulltalk wrote:Is Barkley a slam dunk at #2? Any chance they trade down or pick Darnold?

No way. I even think Chubb is more likely than Barkley.

Big chance they trade down if DEN believes the Jets are lying about Darnold/Rosen. Small chance that BUF gets there, but they supposedly want Allen, so really they could try and get him at 5-10 if Denver moves up for Darnold.


Then maybe Cleveland does get Barkley.


Still very possible. The rumor of the 4 being on the block was dependent on who’s still there.. here’s the big question: what if Barkley AND Darnold are there? Would mean Chubb and Rosen went 2/3.. I think Dorsey trades it over taking Barkley. Personally believe Browns want Chubb over Barkley
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Post#440 » by DirtybirdGA » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:34 pm

Which broadcast are y'all watching tonight? Fox, NFL or ESPN? I don't like any of the panelists more than the others, so I might hop around.
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