2018 NBA Draft Thread

Ron Swanson · Post #721 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:18 pm

Get one of Philly's 2nd rounders (#38 or #39) and draft Landry Shamet. Do it.

emunney · Post #722 » by **emunney** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:28 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Ayton is far and away the best prospect in this class and is going #1 overall to whoever wins the lottery. After that I think the field is wide open. I could see Doncic going as high as 2nd pretty easily.

Ayton is a physical marvel, incredibly coordinated, highly skilled, and has absolutely no feel for the game, no ability to anticipate anything on either end. I think he's going to have a lot of trouble against guys that he can't physically overwhelm, but frankly, he's going to be able to physically overwhelm a lot of guys. Should be interesting to see how he turns out.

Personally, I take Doncic without question.

tski1972 · Post #723 » by **tski1972** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:31 pm

hypothetically speaking, if the Bucks get Buds as coach, anyone willing to give up 17/Snell for Bazemore?

Ron Swanson · Post #724 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:35 pm

emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Ayton is far and away the best prospect in this class and is going #1 overall to whoever wins the lottery. After that I think the field is wide open. I could see Doncic going as high as 2nd pretty easily.

Ayton is a physical marvel, incredibly coordinated, highly skilled, and has absolutely no feel for the game, no ability to anticipate anything on either end. I think he's going to have a lot of trouble against guys that he can't physically overwhelm, but frankly, he's going to be able to physically overwhelm a lot of guys. Should be interesting to see how he turns out.

Personally, I take Doncic without question.

It's perfectly fine to prefer Doncic (even though I disagree), but I'm just telling you guys that there's no way Ayton isn't going #1 overall, and I don't think it's been much of a question since December. He's a better prospect than Towns was coming out, at least IMO.

emunney · Post #725 » by **emunney** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Ayton is far and away the best prospect in this class and is going #1 overall to whoever wins the lottery. After that I think the field is wide open. I could see Doncic going as high as 2nd pretty easily.

Ayton is a physical marvel, incredibly coordinated, highly skilled, and has absolutely no feel for the game, no ability to anticipate anything on either end. I think he's going to have a lot of trouble against guys that he can't physically overwhelm, but frankly, he's going to be able to physically overwhelm a lot of guys. Should be interesting to see how he turns out.

Personally, I take Doncic without question.

It's perfectly fine to prefer Doncic (even though I disagree), but I'm just telling you guys that there's no way Ayton isn't going #1 overall, and I don't think it's been much of a question since December. He's a better prospect than Towns was coming out, at least IMO.

I think it's going to depend on whether the team picking #1 wants a C who can't pass out of double teams or rotate defensively.

nmeurett · Post #726 » by **nmeurett** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:36 pm

tski1972 wrote:hypothetically speaking, if the Bucks get Buds as coach, anyone willing to give up 17/Snell for Bazemore?

No not giving up an asset to get a decent player with a worse contract then snell

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tski1972 · Post #727 » by **tski1972** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:03 pm

nmeurett wrote:
tski1972 wrote:hypothetically speaking, if the Bucks get Buds as coach, anyone willing to give up 17/Snell for Bazemore?
No not giving up an asset to get a decent player with a worse contract then snell

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2 years for a productive player for $36M or 3 years of nothing for $34M.

Badgerlander · Post #728 » by **Badgerlander** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:47 am

emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
emunney wrote:
Ayton is a physical marvel, incredibly coordinated, highly skilled, and has absolutely no feel for the game, no ability to anticipate anything on either end. I think he's going to have a lot of trouble against guys that he can't physically overwhelm, but frankly, he's going to be able to physically overwhelm a lot of guys. Should be interesting to see how he turns out.

Personally, I take Doncic without question.

It's perfectly fine to prefer Doncic (even though I disagree), but I'm just telling you guys that there's no way Ayton isn't going #1 overall, and I don't think it's been much of a question since December. He's a better prospect than Towns was coming out, at least IMO.

I think it's going to depend on whether the team picking #1 wants a C who can't pass out of double teams or rotate defensively.

Ayton has a very Dwight-ish vibe to him, except he can’t set a screen or play defense, so...*shrugs* does that make him Andre Drummond?

emunney · Post #729 » by **emunney** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:56 am

Badgerlander wrote:
emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
It's perfectly fine to prefer Doncic (even though I disagree), but I'm just telling you guys that there's no way Ayton isn't going #1 overall, and I don't think it's been much of a question since December. He's a better prospect than Towns was coming out, at least IMO.

I think it's going to depend on whether the team picking #1 wants a C who can't pass out of double teams or rotate defensively.

Ayton has a very Dwight-ish vibe to him, except he can’t set a screen or play defense, so...*shrugs*

Ewing on offense, inexplicably Monroe on defense.

Ron Swanson · Post #730 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:15 pm

tski1972 wrote:
nmeurett wrote:
tski1972 wrote:hypothetically speaking, if the Bucks get Buds as coach, anyone willing to give up 17/Snell for Bazemore?
No not giving up an asset to get a decent player with a worse contract then snell

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2 years for a productive player for $36M or 3 years of nothing for $34M.

You have the pick going to the wrong team. Bazemore's contract is awful.

M-C-G · Post #731 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
tski1972 wrote:
nmeurett wrote:No not giving up an asset to get a decent player with a worse contract then snell

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2 years for a productive player for $36M or 3 years of nothing for $34M.

You have the pick going to the wrong team. Bazemore's contract is awful.

I don't think they would want another Bucks overpaid center but if you turn that into Snell/Henson/17 for Bazemore/30 or 33, I'd sure be interested.

Draft Sogaba Konate at 33

PG: Bledsoe, Delly, Jennings
SG: Middleton, Bazemore, Brogdon, Sterling (in some order)
SF: Parker, Shabazz
PF: Giannis, DJ
C: Konate, Thon, Zeller (in some order)

I think if you do that trade you are probably moving one of Bledsoe (Brogdon goes back to point), Middleton or Parker.

Ron Swanson · Post #732 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:44 pm

Moving back 13 spots in the draft just to consolidate two bad contracts into one terrible contract? Yeah, I'm not a fan at all.

M-C-G · Post #733 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:00 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Moving back 13 spots in the draft just to consolidate two bad contracts into one terrible contract? Yeah, I'm not a fan at all.

And you are getting a useful player for two not very useful players.

tski1972 · Post #734 » by **tski1972** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:01 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
tski1972 wrote:
nmeurett wrote:No not giving up an asset to get a decent player with a worse contract then snell

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2 years for a productive player for $36M or 3 years of nothing for $34M.

You have the pick going to the wrong team. Bazemore's contract is awful.

and Snell's isn't?

Ron Swanson · Post #735 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:10 pm

Not nearly as awful as the contract you'd be paying twice as much as what you're paying Snell. I mean, did you guys just forget how trash Bazemore was the previous season and how inconsistent a player he's always been from year-to-year? This opens up like, $2 mil in cap room for the next two years, and you're paying ATL a 1st round pick for the pleasure of doing it. Hell to the no.

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #736 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:10 pm

The two bigs I really like that may be available when the Bucks pick:

Robert Williams
Mitchell Robinson

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #737 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:12 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Not nearly as awful as the contract you'd be paying twice as much as what you're paying Snell. I mean, did you guys just forget how trash Bazemore was the previous season and how inconsistent a player he's always been from year-to-year? This opens up like, $2 mil in cap room for the next two years, and you're paying ATL a 1st round pick for the pleasure of doing it. Hell to the no.

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give me Snell with a new coaching staff that is competent .

no reason a good coach can't scheme some opportunities for him to roll around picks and screen for some good looks.

tski1972 · Post #738 » by **tski1972** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:18 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Not nearly as awful as the contract you'd be paying twice as much as what you're paying Snell. I mean, did you guys just forget how trash Bazemore was the previous season and how inconsistent a player he's always been from year-to-year? This opens up like, $2 mil in cap room for the next two years, and you're paying ATL a 1st round pick for the pleasure of doing it. Hell to the no.

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give me Snell with a new coaching staff that is competent .

no reason a good coach can't scheme some opportunities for him to roll around picks and screen for some good looks.

when is the last time you saw Snell run off a screen and shoot? he is a catch and shoot player.

SupremeHustle · Post #739 » by **SupremeHustle** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:43 pm

Just took a peek at the ESPN mock and they are predicting that teams who currently have bigs that could help the Bucks will draft a PF/C. That could open up some possibilities to snatch a guy like Dedmon or (my preference) Alex Len.

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #740 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:45 pm

tski1972 wrote:
Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Not nearly as awful as the contract you'd be paying twice as much as what you're paying Snell. I mean, did you guys just forget how trash Bazemore was the previous season and how inconsistent a player he's always been from year-to-year? This opens up like, $2 mil in cap room for the next two years, and you're paying ATL a 1st round pick for the pleasure of doing it. Hell to the no.

.

give me Snell with a new coaching staff that is competent .

no reason a good coach can't scheme some opportunities for him to roll around picks and screen for some good looks.

when is the last time you saw Snell run off a screen and shoot? he is a catch and shoot player.

that's the problem...I don't see it enough

Who do you think will be the #1 overall pick?