2018 Offseason Thread

Post #1 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:56 pm

I can’t think of a great title, so Andre can edit it if he thinks of one.

Current thoughts:
-George re-signing doesn’t mean much if Melo stays.
-Wouldn’t be surprised if ownership reigns Presti in on his spending
- Adams gone?
-Dononvan stays

Pillendreher · Post #2 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:30 pm

Depends on what happens, I still submit "Here I Go Again On My Own"

Post #3 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:52 pm

I think the roster will change more than we expect. I'm confident we can get some value on a PG13 sign and trade (I doubt he will pass on a 5 years contract). Getting something close to the value the Clippers got for CP3 would be nice. Then Presti could decide to move those pieces/picks or not.

I don't really know what kind of money Grant could get. I want him to stay but probably going to cost too much.

I hope we can work on a buy out with Melo but I'm dreaming.

I think Billy Donovan is gone but Presti loves him so much that I'm afraid to be wrong

Post #4 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:05 pm

Presti already hard at work on next years team...

Pillendreher · Post #5 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:28 pm

Knrstz wrote:Presti already hard at work on next years team...

If they are stupid enough to go after Kanter again, I'll stop following the team. That'd be the final straw for me.

Post #6 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:44 pm

thunder should move away from a team centered around russell westbrook. or, build a team around him like 2016-17 where he can have 40%+ usage and just break records. he does not have a winning disposition and is not a leader. when the team went down 2-1, his response to call out ricky rubio (who had been outplaying him) and then come out in game 4 playing recklessly and compromising the team's defense was bizarre. who does that? who responds to adversity that way? who talks about winning a championship this year when the team is mired in a slump and is barely over .500? because westbrook did.

there's no internal guidance for him within the organization. there's a collection of sycophants who appear to encourage a lot of these behaviors. westbrook is over-confident and unrealistic. when the thunder were actually a great team, and kevin durant was the leader, there was a saying that followed him around. that saying was 'hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard'. you kno what saying has followed westbrook around the last couple years? 'now i do what i want'.

the team either has to put its foot down on westbrook being the center of thunder universe and actually construct a team instead of a personality cult. or they should just move on from building around him. donovan is a crappy coach, yeah. that's a problem too. i don't think you're building a true contender around westbrook, though.

Post #7 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:55 pm

I’m in the middle between what slick says and the idea that it could have been done if we had the time and assets. At this point, it’s hard for me to get involved in that discussion because the end result is the same- it’s time to start over.

Pillendreher · Post #8 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:42 pm

https://www.facebook.com/NewsOK/videos/vb.87948080793/10155563190580794/?type=3&theater

Exit Interviews

Post #9 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:56 pm

Pillendreher wrote:https://www.facebook.com/NewsOK/videos/vb.87948080793/10155563190580794/?type=3&theater

Exit Interviews

I’m on the road today. Keep us posted. Don’t post and drive, kids.

Pillendreher · Post #10 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:04 pm

Knrstz wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:https://www.facebook.com/NewsOK/videos/vb.87948080793/10155563190580794/?type=3&theater

Exit Interviews

I’m on the road today. Keep us posted. Don’t post and drive, kids.

Horne asked Donovan if he had the authority to bench Melo and Donovan answered with 'You know Sam has totally let me coach the team'

Read on Twitter

Has talked a lot about consistency on both sides of the floor. And has also vowed to improve ball movement.

Post #11 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:10 pm

Well, consistency defines very well Billy D and Melo's season. Not in a good way obviously...

spearsy23 · Post #12 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:35 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Presti already hard at work on next years team...

If they are stupid enough to go after Kanter again, I'll stop following the team. That'd be the final straw for me.

I'd love to have enes back on a contract that's reasonable. It's ironic that we probably would've had a better chance against Utah with him instead of Melo. We can't pay him, so it doesn't matter anyway, but if he was on the team making 6 million then that's a plus in my book. Definitely would've helped in all those matchups where Pat/Grant were giving up 4 inches and 30 pounds.

Pillendreher · Post #13 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:44 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Presti already hard at work on next years team...

If they are stupid enough to go after Kanter again, I'll stop following the team. That'd be the final straw for me.

I'd love to have enes back on a contract that's reasonable. It's ironic that we probably would've had a better chance against Utah with him instead of Melo. We can't pay him, so it doesn't matter anyway, but if he was on the team making 6 million then that's a plus in my book. Definitely would've helped in all those matchups where Pat/Grant were giving up 4 inches and 30 pounds.

Hell no. I wouldn't want his bum ass back even if he were paying us to play.

spearsy23 · Post #14 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:50 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
If they are stupid enough to go after Kanter again, I'll stop following the team. That'd be the final straw for me.

I'd love to have enes back on a contract that's reasonable. It's ironic that we probably would've had a better chance against Utah with him instead of Melo. We can't pay him, so it doesn't matter anyway, but if he was on the team making 6 million then that's a plus in my book. Definitely would've helped in all those matchups where Pat/Grant were giving up 4 inches and 30 pounds.

Hell no. I wouldn't want his bum ass back even if he were paying us to play.

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Pillendreher · Post #15 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:52 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I'd love to have enes back on a contract that's reasonable. It's ironic that we probably would've had a better chance against Utah with him instead of Melo. We can't pay him, so it doesn't matter anyway, but if he was on the team making 6 million then that's a plus in my book. Definitely would've helped in all those matchups where Pat/Grant were giving up 4 inches and 30 pounds.

Hell no. I wouldn't want his bum ass back even if he were paying us to play.

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I'm dead serisous. Let him poison a team's defense somewhere else. I'm also sick and tired of this act of his.

spearsy23 · Post #16 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:57 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Hell no. I wouldn't want his bum ass back even if he were paying us to play.

[gfycat]ComplicatedFlusteredBlowfish

I'm dead serisous. Let him poison a team's defense somewhere else. I'm also sick and tired of this act of his.

Being a good guy who sticks up for his team doesn't seem like much of an act.

And yes, he's an awful defender, but he's a rotation piece, something we're sorely lacking on the bench. Role players need to have a defined skillset that matches a role, Enes has one. Get a backup guard that handles and runs the pick and roll, a guy like Enes, a shooter and a run protector and you've got an average bench that won't cost you games.

Thunder Up · Post #17 » by **Thunder Up** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:59 pm

Abrines and 2k Ferg are in for big years next season
Hopefully Roberson can come back as even 80% the player he was 5 minutes before that injury

spearsy23 · Post #18 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:04 pm

I'm not optimistic about the future for either abrines or Ferg. I'm hopeful, but there's not much to suggest they're going to be rotation caliber, let alone difference makers. I like Ferguson, but it's tough to separate liking him as a young thunder player vs liking him as a prospect.

Thunder Up · Post #19 » by **Thunder Up** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:15 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I'm not optimistic about the future for either abrines or Ferg. I'm hopeful, but there's not much to suggest they're going to be rotation caliber, let alone difference makers. I like Ferguson, but it's tough to separate liking him as a young thunder player vs liking him as a prospect.

Abrines showed some defensive chops during this series, and it is clear if he actually had sets run for him to get clean looks with some movement he could be a 40%+ three point shooter on 5 to 7 attempts per game

Pillendreher · Post #20 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:16 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:[gfycat]ComplicatedFlusteredBlowfish

I'm dead serisous. Let him poison a team's defense somewhere else. I'm also sick and tired of this act of his.

Being a good guy who sticks up for his team doesn't seem like much of an act.

He should 'sticku up for his team' on the court, not be some wannabe tough guy who's more into social media trolling than improving on the defensive end.