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2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2

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Who Wins It All?

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20
31%
Cavs
1
2%
Rockets
15
23%
Sixers
7
11%
Raptors
2
3%
Pelicans
4
6%
Thunder
3
5%
Jazz
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3%
Celtics
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3%
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8
13%
 
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1021 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:24 pm

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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1022 » by HEZI » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:27 pm

This is the dude that y'all said Phil shouldn't have been criticizing? The dude that Phil was doing dirty?

Nah, Phil knew exactly what kind of character this dude was and he was the man for pushing him out of town. I'll always respect Phil for that.
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Post#1023 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:29 pm

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What's the logic behind having to ask any player to play off the bench? If the coach think's that's what's best, a player shouldn't really have a say in the situation. Those that fight it aren't team players.


100% agreed.


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So...he’s not coming off the bench? That’s what he means, right? If so, that’s ridiculous and I feel bad for OKC. Honestly, him coming off bench would probably be best for him too.
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Post#1024 » by whocares1 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:30 pm

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SOUL wrote:What exactly did Melo sacrifice? Dude is making 27 million a year and playing 32 minutes a game while he probably should be coming off the bench, but won't even do that. Smh. And I actually root for him to do good but he makes it hard.. don't think he's ever winning a chip.


I think he means by taking a back seat and letting George and WB create most of the offensive opportunities while Melo is on the court. For a player that’s used to pounding the air out of the ball, he thinks being a third wheel on the court was enough sacrifice.

I give him that. However that’s a given he’s not better than either. That’s why Bosh took a back seat! That’s why Love took a back seat. That’s why Bynum took a back seat.


Bynum was never really a number one option. Kevin Love was and he struggled his first season as a third wheel, and he’s on paper the better off ball player than Melo. He probably thought there was going to be a proper system that got all three of them involved, but he quickly learned that was wrong.
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Post#1025 » by Kinglee » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:30 pm

He shouldn't come off the bench for players he's better than. Players have a history of looking like trash playing next to Westbrook. That's a fact. It is what it is. **** OKC. Good job Melo
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Post#1026 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:32 pm

Kinglee wrote:He shouldn't come off the bench for players he's better than. Players have a history of looking like trash playing next to Westbrook. That's a fact. It is what it is. **** OKC. Good job Melo


His lack of defense is RW’s fault? Lack of ability to hit a shot or finish? He’s getting the same touches he was getting last year, and he’s doing nothing. There’s a reason the Thunder looked better with him on the bench.

If he’s better than bench players, him playing against them with more of his minutes will benefit him, right? Let him iso ball then.

If the coach things it’s best for the team, he should go with it.
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Post#1027 » by Kinglee » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:34 pm

If he come off the bench let him carry the bench unit like the team did at the beginning of the season. You minimize him playing him next to a player who clearly is t a better offensive player than him. Turn George into a spot up shooter. Let Melo score. You don't grab a scorer and tell him his role is to be a designated shooter and not a scorer.
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Post#1028 » by F N 11 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:34 pm

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I think he means by taking a back seat and letting George and WB create most of the offensive opportunities while Melo is on the court. For a player that’s used to pounding the air out of the ball, he thinks being a third wheel on the court was enough sacrifice.

I give him that. However that’s a given he’s not better than either. That’s why Bosh took a back seat! That’s why Love took a back seat. That’s why Bynum took a back seat.


Bynum was never really a number one option. Kevin Love was and he struggled his first season as a third wheel, and he’s on paper the better off ball player than Melo. He probably thought there was going to be a proper system that got all three of them involved, but he quickly learned that was wrong.

Melo has never thrived in any system. He is most successful when handed the ball to work in the post. I get it he’s been taught to play 1 way and is use to it. He’s one of the players from the last gen that is ball dominant. Wade is trying but he’s struggling too.
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Post#1029 » by Kinglee » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:36 pm

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Kinglee wrote:He shouldn't come off the bench for players he's better than. Players have a history of looking like trash playing next to Westbrook. That's a fact. It is what it is. **** OKC. Good job Melo


His lack of defense is RW’s fault? Lack of ability to hit a shot or finish? He’s getting the same touches he was getting last year, and he’s doing nothing. There’s a reason the Thunder looked better with him on the bench.

If he’s better than bench players, him playing against them with more of his minutes will benefit him, right? Let him iso ball then.

If the coach things it’s best for the team, he should go with it.


He's not a shooter, he's a scorer. He wasn't getting the "same touches". Idc what any number say, I watched EVERY OKC game and complained I. These topics EVERY OKC game about how he is being used. His defense did t cost the, this series either. Russel looks better next to "role players" and the team plays better with "role players" because Russ only know how to play with "role players".
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Post#1030 » by ChaosHamster » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:36 pm

whocares1 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
whocares1 wrote:
I think he means by taking a back seat and letting George and WB create most of the offensive opportunities while Melo is on the court. For a player that’s used to pounding the air out of the ball, he thinks being a third wheel on the court was enough sacrifice.

I give him that. However that’s a given he’s not better than either. That’s why Bosh took a back seat! That’s why Love took a back seat. That’s why Bynum took a back seat.


Bynum was never really a number one option. Kevin Love was and he struggled his first season as a third wheel, and he’s on paper the better off ball player than Melo. He probably thought there was going to be a proper system that got all three of them involved, but he quickly learned that was wrong.


But Melo didn't just struggle.. He was freaking terrible. You can blame the system, but dude was missing open shots.

And now hes saying he needs something closer to his previous role.. But he doesn't want to come of the bench? :nonono:
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Post#1031 » by Kinglee » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:37 pm

K P 6 wrote:
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K P 6 wrote:I give him that. However that’s a given he’s not better than either. That’s why Bosh took a back seat! That’s why Love took a back seat. That’s why Bynum took a back seat.


Bynum was never really a number one option. Kevin Love was and he struggled his first season as a third wheel, and he’s on paper the better off ball player than Melo. He probably thought there was going to be a proper system that got all three of them involved, but he quickly learned that was wrong.

Melo has never thrived in any system. He is most successful when handed the ball to work in the post. I get it he’s been taught to play 1 way and is use to it. He’s one of the players from the last gen that is ball dominant. Wade is trying but he’s struggling too.


Melo was efficient as hell in the uptempo game they played in Denver and was efficient playing under Mike. Save the "he didn't thrive" nonsense. Dude a first ballot hall of famer, how you get that without thriving?
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Post#1032 » by F N 11 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:37 pm

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Kinglee wrote:He shouldn't come off the bench for players he's better than. Players have a history of looking like trash playing next to Westbrook. That's a fact. It is what it is. **** OKC. Good job Melo


His lack of defense is RW’s fault? Lack of ability to hit a shot or finish? He’s getting the same touches he was getting last year, and he’s doing nothing. There’s a reason the Thunder looked better with him on the bench.

If he’s better than bench players, him playing against them with more of his minutes will benefit him, right? Let him iso ball then.

If the coach things it’s best for the team, he should go with it.

It’s his play style! Not necessarily his ability. If he was a passer out the post I can see him being able to play longer, but he’s not. Now his shot is failing him and he continues to be bad on D it just looks all bad from here. I know Brickley and his fans want to say he still got it. It’s okay I wanted to think Rose still had it. Wanted to think Iverson and Tmac still had it late but not too late in their careers. Sometimes times change and circumstances change you have to be able to adjust if you want to last.
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Post#1033 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:37 pm

HEZI wrote:This is the dude that y'all said Phil shouldn't have been criticizing? The dude that Phil was doing dirty?

Nah, Phil knew exactly what kind of character this dude was and he was the man for pushing him out of town. I'll always respect Phil for that.


only problem though is Phil committed the original sin of giving him a NTC which was a monumental fuqup on Phil's part
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Post#1034 » by Kinglee » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:40 pm

A guy just has his worst season ever, playing next to a pg nobody wants to play with, and in a role he never been in, and people are complaining about why he doesn't want to repeat that?

HUH???
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Post#1035 » by Kinglee » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:40 pm

A guy just has his worst season ever, playing next to a pg nobody wants to play with, and in a role he never been in, and people are complaining about why he doesn't want to repeat that?

HUH???
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Post#1036 » by HEZI » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:42 pm

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HEZI wrote:This is the dude that y'all said Phil shouldn't have been criticizing? The dude that Phil was doing dirty?

Nah, Phil knew exactly what kind of character this dude was and he was the man for pushing him out of town. I'll always respect Phil for that.


only problem though is Phil committed the original sin of giving him a NTC which was a monumental fuqup on Phil's part


He didn't give him anything, Melo's camp demanded he have a NTC. Dolan ordered Phil to bring back Melo at all cost because Melo is James Dolan's guy. Dolan is the guy who demanded that the Knicks trade for Melo so no way was he going to allow him to just walk for nothing in free agency.
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Post#1037 » by Gregory151 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:44 pm

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Post#1038 » by F N 11 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:44 pm

Kinglee wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
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Bynum was never really a number one option. Kevin Love was and he struggled his first season as a third wheel, and he’s on paper the better off ball player than Melo. He probably thought there was going to be a proper system that got all three of them involved, but he quickly learned that was wrong.

Melo has never thrived in any system. He is most successful when handed the ball to work in the post. I get it he’s been taught to play 1 way and is use to it. He’s one of the players from the last gen that is ball dominant. Wade is trying but he’s struggling too.


Melo was efficient as hell in the uptempo game they played in Denver and was efficient playing under Mike. Save the "he didn't thrive" nonsense. Dude a first ballot hall of famer, how you get that without thriving?

Again I’m not dragging dude and Karl is an ass-hole but this is telling. You can’t sit here and say This is not Melo to a T.

"Carmelo was a true conundrum for me in the six years I had him," Karl wrote in "Furious George," according to an advance copy obtained by the New York Post. "He was the best offensive player I ever coached. He was also a user of people, addicted to the spotlight and very unhappy when he had to share it.

"He really lit my fuse with his low demand of himself on defense. He had no commitment to the hard, dirty work of stopping the other guy."


I would of changed my opinion on Melo if he had finally said this point in my career I’m willing to do what it takes but No his mind is still in the selfish ego mode.
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Post#1039 » by F N 11 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:49 pm

Kinglee wrote:A guy just has his worst season ever, playing next to a pg nobody wants to play with, and in a role he never been in, and people are complaining about why he doesn't want to repeat that?

HUH???

It’s his attitude man. Him coming off he bench can possibly revive his career. It’s not all about who is in he starting lineup. He seems to think so. Ego is a mf and it got Iverson out the league fast. Derrick Rose was an MVP. He had no problem. Wade 3 time Champion. He had no problem. Carmelo Anthony has a problem. Do you see what I’m saying ?
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Post#1040 » by F N 11 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:51 pm

Kinglee wrote:If he come off the bench let him carry the bench unit like the team did at the beginning of the season. You minimize him playing him next to a player who clearly is t a better offensive player than him. Turn George into a spot up shooter. Let Melo score. You don't grab a scorer and tell him his role is to be a designated shooter and not a scorer.

But he’s saying he doesn’t want to come off the bench which is where any knowledgeable coach will tell him carry the second unit.
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