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2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2

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Who Wins It All?

Ws
20
31%
Cavs
1
2%
Rockets
15
23%
Sixers
7
11%
Raptors
2
3%
Pelicans
4
6%
Thunder
3
5%
Jazz
2
3%
Celtics
2
3%
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8
13%
 
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1141 » by whocares1 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:04 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:Nobody viewed Mitchell as a top 10 pick, so if they are are truly upset then they cant truly believe in tanking.


Yeah that argument is very convenient but non-sequitur.

If we want to rise from the doldrums we can not always justify mistakes by saying that other teams committed the same.

Fans, especially those that stuck with this team through thick and thin, have a right to be upset.

So why is no one upset we didn't pick OG or Kyle Kuzma?


Because they worked out Donovan Mitchell twice including one a day before the draft. Should’ve been a no brainer.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1142 » by Worst_to_First » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:07 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Nobody viewed Mitchell as a top 10 pick, so if they are are truly upset then they cant truly believe in tanking.


Yeah that argument is very convenient but non-sequitur.

If we want to rise from the doldrums we can not always justify mistakes by saying that other teams committed the same.

Fans, especially those that stuck with this team through thick and thin, have a right to be upset.

So why is no one upset we didn't pick OG or Kyle Kuzma?


???

These guys are good but are they better than Donovan Mitchell?
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1143 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:13 am

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HEZI wrote:Bledsoe is going to have nightmares of Rozier

Rozier has made himself A LOT of money this series.

I won't stop saying it: we need to go get him, he's a max player and Boston has Irving.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1144 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:19 am

whocares1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
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Yeah that argument is very convenient but non-sequitur.

If we want to rise from the doldrums we can not always justify mistakes by saying that other teams committed the same.

Fans, especially those that stuck with this team through thick and thin, have a right to be upset.

So why is no one upset we didn't pick OG or Kyle Kuzma?


Because they worked out Donovan Mitchell twice including one a day before the draft. Should’ve been a no brainer.

Perhaps they thought Frank would be the better player over time.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1145 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:22 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
Yeah that argument is very convenient but non-sequitur.

If we want to rise from the doldrums we can not always justify mistakes by saying that other teams committed the same.

Fans, especially those that stuck with this team through thick and thin, have a right to be upset.

So why is no one upset we didn't pick OG or Kyle Kuzma?


???

These guys are good but are they better than Donovan Mitchell?

Why do they have to be better than Mitchell?

What I see here is why NY will NEVER properly rebuild. Fans wont allow it, no patience. And nah, hanging around and complaining doesn't indicate patience. :lol:
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1146 » by Reign23 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:45 am

basketboule wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
HEZI wrote:Bledsoe is going to have nightmares of Rozier

Rozier has made himself A LOT of money this series.

I won't stop saying it: we need to go get him, he's a max player and Boston has Irving.


lol wut?
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1147 » by Reign23 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:46 am

just skipped through the 2 games from yesterday. pretty boring ****. but cleveland - indiana gonna be good I think.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1148 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:49 am

Reign23 wrote:
basketboule wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:Rozier has made himself A LOT of money this series.

I won't stop saying it: we need to go get him, he's a max player and Boston has Irving.


lol wut?

He'll go on and be a top point guard in the league. Tell me his limitations.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1149 » by whocares1 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:54 am

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Worst_to_First wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:So why is no one upset we didn't pick OG or Kyle Kuzma?


???

These guys are good but are they better than Donovan Mitchell?

Why do they have to be better than Mitchell?

What I see here is why NY will NEVER properly rebuild. Fans wont allow it, no patience. And nah, hanging around and complaining doesn't indicate patience. :lol:


You’re joking right? The team on paper was expected to be a bottom 5 team in the league. NY not properly rebuilding has nothing to do with the fans, in fact Perry and Mills went out of their way to mention how fans want them to take their time rebuilding the team. The Knicks won’t properly rebuild because they don’t know how to, don’t blame the fans lol.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1150 » by Reign23 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:56 am

basketboule wrote:
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basketboule wrote:I won't stop saying it: we need to go get him, he's a max player and Boston has Irving.


lol wut?

He'll go on and be a top point guard in the league. Tell me his limitations.


no doubt he's gonna b good, but a max player seems a little too much.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1151 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:08 am

Reign23 wrote:
basketboule wrote:
Reign23 wrote:
lol wut?

He'll go on and be a top point guard in the league. Tell me his limitations.


no doubt he's gonna b good, but a max player seems a little too much.

I know what you mean. But he's coming of a rookie deal so if I'm not totally wrong his max is not close to Kawhi's. I'd just be ready to outbid other teams and pay that dude should we ever get the chance. He looks like a solid investment. Imagine having both plus Frank. That's a good perimeter line-up.
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Post#1152 » by DOLPHIN2020 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:39 am

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nykballa2k4 wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
Dotson's good as well so our scouting department knows what they are doing.

Frank is okay but we would be lucky if he will be contributing half to a team's overall success as Mitchell is doing at the moment.

What would suck big time is that if the triangle offense was the determining factor in choosing Frank over Mitchell.


Remember when KP was supposed to be not much his rookie year? Young foreign guys are supposed to be nothing amazing in year one. People wanna act like Frank is a dud or doesn't have the superstar it factor. If he develops into Mark Jackson with better defense is he still a "ho hum" pick?


I will be content if Frank becomes a 6'5 7'1 wingspan version of Pablo Prigioni.

But it is delusional to say that we didn't miss out on Mitchell. People have the right to be upset and their opinions should be respected.

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Post#1153 » by DOLPHIN2020 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:41 am

Reign23 wrote:just skipped through the 2 games from yesterday. pretty boring ****. but cleveland - indiana gonna be good I think.

Refs will make sure LeBron wins

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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1154 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:15 am

whocares1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
???

These guys are good but are they better than Donovan Mitchell?

Why do they have to be better than Mitchell?

What I see here is why NY will NEVER properly rebuild. Fans wont allow it, no patience. And nah, hanging around and complaining doesn't indicate patience. :lol:


You’re joking right? The team on paper was expected to be a bottom 5 team in the league. NY not properly rebuilding has nothing to do with the fans, in fact Perry and Mills went out of their way to mention how fans want them to take their time rebuilding the team. The Knicks won’t properly rebuild because they don’t know how to, don’t blame the fans lol.

Crying over a missed player in one season is exactly what I'm referring to. No patience. wait and see what your own guy does first.
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Post#1155 » by Worst_to_First » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:43 am

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Reign23 wrote:just skipped through the 2 games from yesterday. pretty boring ****. but cleveland - indiana gonna be good I think.

Refs will make sure LeBron wins

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Yes but what I like in this Pacers' team is that it looks like they'll die trying.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1156 » by Adelheid » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:48 am

whocares1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
???

These guys are good but are they better than Donovan Mitchell?

Why do they have to be better than Mitchell?

What I see here is why NY will NEVER properly rebuild. Fans wont allow it, no patience. And nah, hanging around and complaining doesn't indicate patience. :lol:


You’re joking right? The team on paper was expected to be a bottom 5 team in the league. NY not properly rebuilding has nothing to do with the fans, in fact Perry and Mills went out of their way to mention how fans want them to take their time rebuilding the team. The Knicks won’t properly rebuild because they don’t know how to, don’t blame the fans lol.


The fans do have some part of the blame in an indirect way. Every company out there makes way to appeal to their consumerbase, shareholders, and stakeholders. Imagine yourself being an owner of one of the NBA's franchise teams, and your team is not doing well and profit margins are down; you will have to answer to people who invested and hold stocks in your team and you will find yourself paying lip service.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1157 » by Worst_to_First » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:54 am

whocares1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
???

These guys are good but are they better than Donovan Mitchell?

Why do they have to be better than Mitchell?

What I see here is why NY will NEVER properly rebuild. Fans wont allow it, no patience. And nah, hanging around and complaining doesn't indicate patience. :lol:


You’re joking right? The team on paper was expected to be a bottom 5 team in the league. NY not properly rebuilding has nothing to do with the fans, in fact Perry and Mills went out of their way to mention how fans want them to take their time rebuilding the team. The Knicks won’t properly rebuild because they don’t know how to, don’t blame the fans lol.


The other teams just simply outsmarted us.

Still holding out hope that ping pong balls bounce in our favor or teams picking ahead throw us a bone.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1158 » by Worst_to_First » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:30 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
whocares1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Why do they have to be better than Mitchell?

What I see here is why NY will NEVER properly rebuild. Fans wont allow it, no patience. And nah, hanging around and complaining doesn't indicate patience. :lol:


You’re joking right? The team on paper was expected to be a bottom 5 team in the league. NY not properly rebuilding has nothing to do with the fans, in fact Perry and Mills went out of their way to mention how fans want them to take their time rebuilding the team. The Knicks won’t properly rebuild because they don’t know how to, don’t blame the fans lol.

Crying over a missed player in one season is exactly what I'm referring to. No patience. wait and see what your own guy does first.


Doesn't mean that Mitchell is a couple years older than Frank he could not further improve.

The problem is Mitchell is an absolute stud now. He took on what is supposed to be a super team and emerged victorious. We would be very lucky if Frank becomes half the player Mitchell is 2-3 years from now when he is at the same age.

We cannot preach patience to the disgruntled fans when the player that we wanted our draft pick to be 5 years from now was there all along NOW.

Sucks more is that guy grew up a Knick fan.

Don't get me wrong Frank is okay. I like that guy and he is someone to root for. Even Mitchell likes him.It is not his fault he was selected probably 7 spots higher than he should have been.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1159 » by Dr. Detfink » Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:56 pm

Let's see Mitchell guard Harden now that Rubio is out for a week. I guarantee you if the kid tries to goad Harden into a score-fest, the Rockets unlike the Thunder will DESTROY Utah.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1160 » by Greenie » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:26 pm

I think we can steal Jabari Parker for cheap.

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