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2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2

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Who Wins It All?

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20
31%
Cavs
1
2%
Rockets
15
23%
Sixers
7
11%
Raptors
2
3%
Pelicans
4
6%
Thunder
3
5%
Jazz
2
3%
Celtics
2
3%
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13%
 
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1161 » by Greenie » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:31 pm

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basketboule wrote:He'll go on and be a top point guard in the league. Tell me his limitations.


no doubt he's gonna b good, but a max player seems a little too much.

I know what you mean. But he's coming of a rookie deal so if I'm not totally wrong his max is not close to Kawhi's. I'd just be ready to outbid other teams and pay that dude should we ever get the chance. He looks like a solid investment. Imagine having both plus Frank. That's a good perimeter line-up.


He should get a Timmy contract...
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1162 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:40 pm

Greenie wrote:I think we can steal Jabari Parker for cheap.



Nah. Hell **** No. Dude is up for a payday soon and is injury prone and dont play defense.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

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Post#1165 » by Phish Tank » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:08 pm

Greenie wrote:I think we can steal Jabari Parker for cheap.


what's the highest offer you're thinking of for him? He's gonna get Timmy money at the absolute worst.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1166 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:37 pm

Melo is the biggest schmuck ever. I always said he was a dummy and I was never wrong about it. Anyone who defends this guy now is insane.

Carmelo Anthony Won't Consider Bench Role Next Season

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249717/Carmelo-Anthony-Wont-Consider-Bench-Role-Next-Season

One day after the Thunder were eliminated from their first round series against the Jazz, Carmelo Anthony rejected the possibility of accepting a bench role next season.

"Yeah, I'm not sacrificing no bench role," Anthony said. "That's out of the question."

Anthony struggled at times this season and was particularly limited in the playoffs.

When asked about moving to the second unit, and asking Paul George as he walked by, "Hey, P! They want me to come off the bench!"

Anthony is owed $28 million on the final season of his contract.

Anthony said he's going to have to weigh his basketball happiness with whatever he decides.

"I think for me, my focus would be on kind of figuring out what I want out of the rest of my career, what I want in my future, what am I willing to accept, if I'm willing to accept that at all," Anthony, 34, said. "I think everybody knows that I've sacrificed kind of damned near everything, family, moving here by myself, sacrificed my game for the sake of the team, and was willing to sacrifice anything and everything in order for this situation to work out. So it's something I really have to think about, if I really want to be this type of player, finish out my career as this type of player, knowing that I have so much left in the tank and I bring so much to the game of basketball."
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1167 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:44 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Why do they have to be better than Mitchell?

What I see here is why NY will NEVER properly rebuild. Fans wont allow it, no patience. And nah, hanging around and complaining doesn't indicate patience. :lol:


You’re joking right? The team on paper was expected to be a bottom 5 team in the league. NY not properly rebuilding has nothing to do with the fans, in fact Perry and Mills went out of their way to mention how fans want them to take their time rebuilding the team. The Knicks won’t properly rebuild because they don’t know how to, don’t blame the fans lol.

Crying over a missed player in one season is exactly what I'm referring to. No patience. wait and see what your own guy does first.


The crying over spilled milk is weak. As good as Mitchell is, what we don't know yet is what Frank's future net positives will be. If Frank turns out to be an all-world defender who shuts down guys like Donovan, then Frank's differentials in the future may actually be equal to or exceed a guy averaging 25 PPG.

If Frank averages 15-20 PPG while clamping down on scorers and shaving off 10-15 points on their usual production, then his +/- could easily become elite.

People have no patience.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1168 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:48 pm

Melo really does remind me of Iverson, but likely will go out like Nique. HOF career no doubt, but nobody really talks about him like the other greats.

A shame too because does have some game left and would be perfect for a bench as a sixth man. His decline wouldn't look so bad.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1169 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:50 pm

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Dotson's good as well so our scouting department knows what they are doing.

Frank is okay but we would be lucky if he will be contributing half to a team's overall success as Mitchell is doing at the moment.

What would suck big time is that if the triangle offense was the determining factor in choosing Frank over Mitchell.


Remember when KP was supposed to be not much his rookie year? Young foreign guys are supposed to be nothing amazing in year one. People wanna act like Frank is a dud or doesn't have the superstar it factor. If he develops into Mark Jackson with better defense is he still a "ho hum" pick?


I will be content if Frank becomes a 6'5 7'1 wingspan version of Pablo Prigioni.

But it is delusional to say that we didn't miss out on Mitchell. People have the right to be upset and their opinions should be respected.


Fans are allowed to their opinions, ie it would be great to have Mitchell on our team because now we all see how good he is. What I am not going to respect is Monday morning quarterbacking. I don't respect people who said things like "We should have gotten Smith" then after seeing Smith didn't have a stellar campaign and Mitchell did decide that because they liked Mitchell after Smith, that now "Phil screwed us by taking Frank instead of Mitchell." That's a fake fan and a fool. If Smith was your pick, ride that out, that's your pick. Frank was supposed to be a project. His expectation was never ROY.

Did we miss out on Mitchell? What does that mean? Do I wish we could re-draft and take Mitchell? I don't know, at this point it would look like the smart move. In five years Frank could be playing like Jason Kidd and Mitchell could be Brandon Roy. What if in 2 years Smith plays like MVP Rose? Do we lament that? Then in 2 years past that he blows out his knee and looks like Knicks Rose do we find a new thing to lament if Frank "only" becomes George Hill 2.0?
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Post#1170 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:53 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Melo really does remind me of Iverson, but likely will go out like Nique. HOF career no doubt, but nobody really talks about him like the other greats.

A shame too because does have some game left and would be perfect for a bench as a sixth man. His decline wouldn't look so bad.


People act like him becoming a 6th man is an insult. If it helps his team win, he should want to go to the bench and get his minutes against guys he's perceived as better than. He's clearly not a starter anymore, so why not try having him beat up on bench units? If he's still got "it," then he will cause major issues for opposing second units.

If I'm him, I'm spending this offseason losing a bit of weight. He's clearly not the quick first step guy he was even two years ago, and he will still have enough strength to play small ball 4s off the bench. If he's able to get that step back, or improve his first step in any capacity, that'll prolong his career a bit longer. I'm not sure what he's at now, but if he can get to 225-230, that'd be fantastic IMO. He also needs to work on spot up shooting, because he was missing wide open jumpers this entire season. And finishing through contact...
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1171 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:58 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Melo really does remind me of Iverson, but likely will go out like Nique. HOF career no doubt, but nobody really talks about him like the other greats.

A shame too because does have some game left and would be perfect for a bench as a sixth man. His decline wouldn't look so bad.


You know what though, it's on him. If he wanted to be a winner, a champion, he'd have been taking care of himself the was LeBron does. He would do what Durant did try to see what LeBron is doing and try to get an edge. Melo was content being Dirk. The main difference is that Dirk, even when he isn't as engaged or choosing to jump, is still 7 feet tall. Melo has other priorities, which for he and his family (aside from Lala) is probably great. For fans of his who wanted him to be the Bird to LeBrons Magic, we feel robbed a bit. It's his life and he seems pretty set with his legacy.
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Post#1172 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:59 pm

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Melo really does remind me of Iverson, but likely will go out like Nique. HOF career no doubt, but nobody really talks about him like the other greats.

A shame too because does have some game left and would be perfect for a bench as a sixth man. His decline wouldn't look so bad.


People act like him becoming a 6th man is an insult. If it helps his team win, he should want to go to the bench and get his minutes against guys he's perceived as better than. He's clearly not a starter anymore, so why not try having him beat up on bench units? If he's still got "it," then he will cause major issues for opposing second units.

If I'm him, I'm spending this offseason losing a bit of weight. He's clearly not the quick first step guy he was even two years ago, and he will still have enough strength to play small ball 4s off the bench. If he's able to get that step back, or improve his first step in any capacity, that'll prolong his career a bit longer. I'm not sure what he's at now, but if he can get to 225-230, that'd be fantastic IMO. He also needs to work on spot up shooting, because he was missing wide open jumpers this entire season. And finishing through contact...

Melo himself acts like it's an insult. I don't think his followers would care as long as he can win in a role that helps him do so.

Being in OKC could have been a great spot for him, the bench was really lacking scoring, and he could have helped with that, and nope, playing WITH the bench is not the same as coming off the bench.

Sometimes a player just needs to look in a mirror, watch their own games and see where they really are. melo is nowhere close to what he used to be. He was fading in NY. There was no turning back the clocks.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1173 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:59 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Melo really does remind me of Iverson, but likely will go out like Nique. HOF career no doubt, but nobody really talks about him like the other greats.

A shame too because does have some game left and would be perfect for a bench as a sixth man. His decline wouldn't look so bad.


People act like him becoming a 6th man is an insult. If it helps his team win, he should want to go to the bench and get his minutes against guys he's perceived as better than. He's clearly not a starter anymore, so why not try having him beat up on bench units? If he's still got "it," then he will cause major issues for opposing second units.

If I'm him, I'm spending this offseason losing a bit of weight. He's clearly not the quick first step guy he was even two years ago, and he will still have enough strength to play small ball 4s off the bench. If he's able to get that step back, or improve his first step in any capacity, that'll prolong his career a bit longer. I'm not sure what he's at now, but if he can get to 225-230, that'd be fantastic IMO. He also needs to work on spot up shooting, because he was missing wide open jumpers this entire season. And finishing through contact...


It should be an honor to be asked to be the Sixth man on a contender. He's too much of a dummy and a diva to embrace reality and be a team player.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1174 » by TheBigBoss » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:00 pm

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Dr. Detfink wrote:Just go ahead and say you're going to Golden State Giannis...that guy ain't sticking around the Bucks for long.


Thats why we need to get our sh*t together! I truly believe we will have a shot at getting him in FA, I think he is ready for a bigger market than Milwaukee.


Is Kostas Antetokounmpo declaring for this draft or next?


Last that I heard was that he was coming out this year, but never saw any official announcement though. If we draft Kostas and then signed Thanasis back that year before Giannis becomes an FA, it could be really tempting for him to come here to play in NYC, with KP, and his brothers.
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Post#1175 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:03 pm

Plus, I don't respect dudes saying they sacrificed for their family when they broke up that family getting pretty young things pregnant on the side. He's FOS.

Everybody sacrifices a lot to be a professional in any field. Melo is delusional. When he says crap like that he doesn't even have the sense to realize he's disrespecting all of the other athletes who made their own sacrifices to get where they are.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1176 » by ChaosHamster » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:05 pm

Hoping for a close game, but should be an easy win for Cleveland.

As easy as I predicted series would go. :lol:
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1177 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:05 pm

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Thats why we need to get our sh*t together! I truly believe we will have a shot at getting him in FA, I think he is ready for a bigger market than Milwaukee.


Is Kostas Antetokounmpo declaring for this draft or next?


Last that I heard was that he was coming out this year, but never saw any official announcement though. If we draft Kostas and then signed Thanasis back that year before Giannis becomes an FA, it could be really tempting for him to come here to play in NYC, with KP, and his brothers.


Does anyone know if Thanasis has evolved his game at all?
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1178 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:17 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Plus, I don't respect dudes saying they sacrificed for their family when they broke up that family getting pretty young things pregnant on the side. He's FOS.

Everybody sacrifices a lot to be a professional in any field. Melo is delusional. When he says crap like that he doesn't even have the sense to realize he's disrespecting all of the other athletes who made their own sacrifices to get where they are.

The celebrity life is normally at the expense of a quality family life. Really no way around it and honestly that's probably the one thing I wont ever fault a guy for. I believe I'm a good looking fella, tall, well built, successful in my eye, have a great family life. Females stay hawking tho. It's easy for me because I'm a random person. I can only imagine if I was an NBA player, the 1% best at their profession that everyone knows. Would be a different person, different lifestyle most likely. That's reality of the situation.
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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1179 » by Reign23 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:22 pm

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Melo really does remind me of Iverson, but likely will go out like Nique. HOF career no doubt, but nobody really talks about him like the other greats.

A shame too because does have some game left and would be perfect for a bench as a sixth man. His decline wouldn't look so bad.


People act like him becoming a 6th man is an insult. If it helps his team win, he should want to go to the bench and get his minutes against guys he's perceived as better than. He's clearly not a starter anymore, so why not try having him beat up on bench units? If he's still got "it," then he will cause major issues for opposing second units.

If I'm him, I'm spending this offseason losing a bit of weight. He's clearly not the quick first step guy he was even two years ago, and he will still have enough strength to play small ball 4s off the bench. If he's able to get that step back, or improve his first step in any capacity, that'll prolong his career a bit longer. I'm not sure what he's at now, but if he can get to 225-230, that'd be fantastic IMO. He also needs to work on spot up shooting, because he was missing wide open jumpers this entire season. And finishing through contact...

good post FOE.

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Re: 2017-18 NBA Playoffs - Week 2 

Post#1180 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:27 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:Plus, I don't respect dudes saying they sacrificed for their family when they broke up that family getting pretty young things pregnant on the side. He's FOS.

Everybody sacrifices a lot to be a professional in any field. Melo is delusional. When he says crap like that he doesn't even have the sense to realize he's disrespecting all of the other athletes who made their own sacrifices to get where they are.

The celebrity life is normally at the expense of a quality family life. Really no way around it and honestly that's probably the one thing I wont ever fault a guy for. I believe I'm a good looking fella, tall, well built, successful in my eye, have a great family life. Females stay hawking tho. It's easy for me because I'm a random person. I can only imagine if I was an NBA player, the 1% best at their profession that everyone knows. Would be a different person, different lifestyle most likely. That's reality of the situation.


I hear you and I'm not actually interested in legislating the morality of their lifestyles. Same with entertainers or traveling professions.

What I'm nailing him for is his usual tone-deaf self-absorption, which manifests here as:

1. Don't use your family as a sympathy chip, particularly when you've been out there playing the field

2. He singles himself out for special consideration when he's surrounded by people who have their own issues and needs and he just doesn't get it. Imagine being his teammate and hearing this crap. I have never bought the BS that Everybody Loves Raymond Melo, because he may have his legit NBA pals, but other players probably think he's a selfish prick.

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