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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#101 » by Jamaaliver » Tue May 1, 2018 12:06 pm

Larranaga strikes me as the very definition of a 'bridge coach'.

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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#102 » by atlantabbq99 » Tue May 1, 2018 12:22 pm

I think the head coaching job is going to go to Jarron Collins. I think he is #1 on Travis' list. The coaching job is as good as his, at this point its really for him to lose because i think he already won it.

It is becoming very obvious that Travis wants to make the Hawks into the GSW of the east.
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Post#103 » by macd-gm » Tue May 1, 2018 1:25 pm

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I'm actually kind of rooting for Darvin Ham to get a shot at Head Coach somewhere. Maybe not here...but he's put in the work and seems like he deserves a legit chance to prove himself.

I hope his interview yesterday went well.


I'm guessing interviewing Ham is more of a courtesy but i'd absolutely be in favor of making him the Hawks coach. It would at least provide a little continuity and he seems no nonsense.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#104 » by reazun » Tue May 1, 2018 2:10 pm

Spud2nique wrote:We went from a 4 time nba champion and coach of the year to a D league coach...


2 steps forward...10 steps back...

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what G-League coach are you talking about? Tibbetts? If so, he has been an NBA coach for 7 years now? Also, an assistant coach with G-League experience is a great idea imo. The purpose of the G-League is to develop players. That’s exactly what we need while building through the draft. Kyrie actually praised Tibbetts during his rookie of the year speech talking about how he was helpful in his development. I think he is a good replacement.

we are not getting another Bud right now...Bud left us..I feel some people are in denial, maybe not you...but in general. Bud left us, he wasnt forced out. He left b/c he didnt want to tank..sorry yall..its just true
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#106 » by Jamaaliver » Tue May 1, 2018 2:45 pm

I don't know much about Stephen Silas. But he certainly has the resume. (I was not a fan of his dad's coaching abilities.)

...there could well be a Hornets connection to the Hawks opening. ESPN reported that longtime Hornets assistant coach Stephen Silas is a candidate to replace Budenholzer. Silas served as Clifford's lead assistant last season, and filled in as head coach for six weeks

Silas was a finalist to coach the Houston Rockets before veteran coach Mike D'Antoni got that job. Silas worked with now-Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk when both were with the Golden State Warriors.
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Post#107 » by Robo_Claw » Tue May 1, 2018 4:43 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:I think the head coaching job is going to go to Jarron Collins. I think he is #1 on Travis' list. The coaching job is as good as his, at this point its really for him to lose because i think he already won it.

It is becoming very obvious that Travis wants to make the Hawks into the GSW of the east.


that is a lofty goal. we will see how much travis had to do with GSW success or if we will end up being Kings east trying to copy them.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#108 » by reazun » Tue May 1, 2018 5:39 pm

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atlantabbq99 wrote:I think the head coaching job is going to go to Jarron Collins. I think he is #1 on Travis' list. The coaching job is as good as his, at this point its really for him to lose because i think he already won it.

It is becoming very obvious that Travis wants to make the Hawks into the GSW of the east.


that is a lofty goal. we will see how much travis had to do with GSW success or if we will end up being Kings east trying to copy them.



I agree. Its so early, we are really only beginning to see what Schlenk will do. He hasnt made any really bad moves yet imo and the Collins pick was a great pick at 19, but really it was kinda an obvious choice at that point..

we will see.
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Post#109 » by jayu70 » Tue May 1, 2018 6:03 pm

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atlantabbq99 wrote:I think the head coaching job is going to go to Jarron Collins. I think he is #1 on Travis' list. The coaching job is as good as his, at this point its really for him to lose because i think he already won it.

It is becoming very obvious that Travis wants to make the Hawks into the GSW of the east.


that is a lofty goal. we will see how much travis had to do with GSW success or if we will end up being Kings east trying to copy them.



I agree. Its so early, we are really only beginning to see what Schlenk will do. He hasnt made any really bad moves yet imo and the Collins pick was a great pick at 19, but really it was kinda an obvious choice at that point..

we will see.

I said before and I'll say again and keep saying...BudCox and the scouting department deserves the credit for Collins.
Mit Shah Hawks minority owner had Bud take a look at Collins (since he's a Wake Forest alum) while they were still in charge and before Schlenk was hired. Schlenk even admitted that he was scouting later players for GSW so he had to rely on the established Hawks management since they had done the leg work on prospects.

Mit Shah is a Wake Forest alum and a major benefactor to the school. He recently donated $5 million to the school to build a basketball practice facility. Shah also happens to be a co-owner of the Hawks as he joined the investment team led by principal owner Tony Ressler that purchased the team two years ago.

“He was always nudging me and saying, ‘If you are around at 19, we are going to take you,’” the 19-year-old Collins said. “He came through on his word. I’m happy to be a Hawk. I’m happy to be in Atlanta.”

Shah did more than suggest Collins could be a Hawk. He brought assistant general manager Jeff Peterson to a Wake Forest-Duke game. He spoke to coach Mike Budenholzer about Collins several times before an interview at the NBA Scouting Combine in May.

“We really thought there was no chance he would be there when we picked and there was absolutely no chance he was going to get by us at 19,” Shah said.

Shah was in the Hawks’ war room on draft night Thursday. Manning was at the draft in Brooklyn to support Collins. They began a rapid text exchange when it became clear the Hawks were going to select Collins. Shah described the Hawks’ room as “ecstatic” with the selection.
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Post#110 » by Jamaaliver » Tue May 1, 2018 6:05 pm

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In December, Silas told Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe he's taken his father's advice during his rise through the coaching ranks, though he also brings his own style to the table:

"I listen to everything he says. He did it in a different way than I do it, obviously. He's an intense, four-letter-word user and he coaches the way that he played when he was with the Celtics. He's always about giving guys confidence and letting them know that you care about them. You need their production and they have to be confident in the way that they play and know that you have confidence in them. That's what he's been telling me lately, as well as a bunch of other things."
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Post#111 » by macd-gm » Tue May 1, 2018 6:57 pm

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In December, Silas told Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe he's taken his father's advice during his rise through the coaching ranks, though he also brings his own style to the table:

"I listen to everything he says. He did it in a different way than I do it, obviously. He's an intense, four-letter-word user and he coaches the way that he played when he was with the Celtics. He's always about giving guys confidence and letting them know that you care about them. You need their production and they have to be confident in the way that they play and know that you have confidence in them. That's what he's been telling me lately, as well as a bunch of other things."
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I liked his dad a lot. Not sure those types coaches exist anymore in the NBA. I guess Carlisle is still around.
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Post#112 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 2, 2018 7:24 pm

Jarron Collins? Oy...

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Post#113 » by reazun » Wed May 2, 2018 7:38 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I don't know much about Stephen Silas. But he certainly has the resume. (I was not a fan of his dad's coaching abilities.)

...there could well be a Hornets connection to the Hawks opening. ESPN reported that longtime Hornets assistant coach Stephen Silas is a candidate to replace Budenholzer. Silas served as Clifford's lead assistant last season, and filled in as head coach for six weeks

Silas was a finalist to coach the Houston Rockets before veteran coach Mike D'Antoni got that job. Silas worked with now-Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk when both were with the Golden State Warriors.
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according to NBA.com Silas' was tasked to develop GSW perimeter players..so thats Steph and Klay. I really hope we have a coach who has shown to be good at player development.

http://www.nba.com/coachfile/stephen_silas/
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Post#114 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 2, 2018 7:44 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:I don't know much about Stephen Silas. But he certainly has the resume.


according to NBA.com Silas' was tasked to develop GSW perimeter players..so thats Steph and Klay. I really hope we have a coach who has shown to be good at player development.

http://www.nba.com/coachfile/stephen_silas/



tHAT...IS A GREAT PULL.

He could be of great use if we decide to gamble on Trae Young or Luka Doncic.
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Post#116 » by tbhawksfan1 » Thu May 3, 2018 9:27 pm

I'm not buying it. Last season when TS arrived the he said that he hadn't scouted for the Hawks pick. He arrived 2/3 weeks before the draft.

I'm not buying it. Most of us armchair GMs can tell you quite a bit about the first round prospects. TS wants us to believe that an interviewing GM, a mere couple of weeks from the draft is gonna say that he hasn't scouted the players....

I"m also not buying this coaching search. It's window dressing. If TS doesn't know who he wants as coach than what does he know?

I want a GM that has a clear plan. I want excellence, confidence and results. In last years draft I"d of preferred TS to say; just got here, but working with Bud and the rest of FO/scouts we will be ready to nail the draft. In this coaching search I'd rather TS let Bud go and pull a quick hire indicating that he's had his guy in place in case of this happening.

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Post#117 » by reazun » Fri May 4, 2018 11:22 am

well, looks like Fizdale is a Knick now. I wish Bud went there since NYC has such deep pockets and could potentially offset more of that millions of dollars we owe Bud. Not too upset that Fizdale wont be here. I know he was well liked, besides of course Gasol, but I wasnt that impressed with him honestly. I know he was an actual head coach and not an assistant...but still wasnt that impressed

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Post#118 » by graymule » Fri May 4, 2018 11:41 am

:(

Bud didn't get the N.Y. job. That's two down and how many more to go? Don't count us. He's been there, done that.
Does our GM know who he wants and is these interviews become window dressing? Or, are we just hunting?

Another very important aspect of the entire thing is, who do we have as scouts? They should be covering the market
of free agents as well as all players who will be available in the draft. It's too late to begin to think of this now, so
hopefully these very important people are already in place.

Hawks need their head coach in place, ASAP, and he (or she) needs their assistant coaches on board. With all the
draft picks the Hawks have, all the free agents out there and some clubs wanting to get help in dumping salaries,
Atlanta has so many things staring them in the face, the longer we wait, the harder it all becomes.

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Post#119 » by reazun » Fri May 4, 2018 11:45 am

tbhawksfan1 wrote:I'm not buying it. Last season when TS arrived the he said that he hadn't scouted for the Hawks pick. He arrived 2/3 weeks before the draft.

I'm not buying it. Most of us armchair GMs can tell you quite a bit about the first round prospects. TS wants us to believe that an interviewing GM, a mere couple of weeks from the draft is gonna say that he hasn't scouted the players....

I"m also not buying this coaching search. It's window dressing. If TS doesn't know who he wants as coach than what does he know?

I want a GM that has a clear plan. I want excellence, confidence and results. In last years draft I"d of preferred TS to say; just got here, but working with Bud and the rest of FO/scouts we will be ready to nail the draft. In this coaching search I'd rather TS let Bud go and pull a quick hire indicating that he's had his guy in place in case of this happening.

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He said he had a contingency list of coaches in case this happened...He still has to do interviews You cant just hire someone without even talking to candidates. This has been moving pretty quickly imo. As long as we have someone before the lottery or shortly after im okay.
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Post#120 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 4, 2018 3:06 pm

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