2018 NBA Draft Thread

[emunney]

I don't spend much time watching college ball or researching draft prospects anymore. So who's the next D.J. Wilson? We'll take him.

There really isn't a prospect who I've heard mentioned as a possible first rounder whose certain failure I believe in to the extent I believed in that future for DJ. But I could see us picking Anfernee Simons or Mitchell Robinson and I know almost nothing about either one of them, so I think that's probably where we'll go. The Thon route.

The guys at the Stepien really like Robinson, though, and he put up crazy numbers (like all time great numbers) at EYBL, so those things are at least positive-sounding.

[LuessiT]

I don't spend much time watching college ball or researching draft prospects anymore. So who's the next D.J. Wilson? We'll take him.

There really isn't a prospect who I've heard mentioned as a possible first rounder whose certain failure I believe in to the extent I believed in that future for DJ. But I could see us picking Anfernee Simons or Mitchell Robinson and I know almost nothing about either one of them, so I think that's probably where we'll go. The Thon route.

The guys at the Stepien really like Robinson, though, and he put up crazy numbers (like all time great numbers) at EYBL, so those things are at least positive-sounding.

Doesn't fit the bill but I think Ayton is criminally overrated. A center that can't play defense is just not that valueable no matter what he does on offense. He's not going to bust but he's not a winning player imo.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't know what tape you guys are watching when you think that Ayton doesn't have elite defensive potential at the next level. Don't really care what he did in college.

[emunney]

I don't know what tape you guys are watching when you think that Ayton doesn't have elite defensive potential at the next level. Don't really care what he did in college.

Lol what tape are YOU watching if you don't care what he did in college?

[smauss]

Pick anyone that can hit a freaking 3 consistently. Pick the BSA (Best Shooter Available).

[Ron Swanson]

I don't know how many times it needs to be said about college production for 18-19 year olds, but it doesn't really matter, like at all. It matters what tools and skills you think translate to the next level. People questioned KAT's and AD's "offensive ceilings" during the predraft process. They looked too much at scoring production and not enough at their actual ability, physical tools, and coordination. Ayton would have to be the laziest prospect since Anthony Bennett to not be an impact rim-protector at the next level with his gifts.

[emunney]

I don't know how many times it needs to be said about college production for 18-19 year olds, but it doesn't really matter, like at all. It matters what tools and skills you think translate to the next level. People questioned KAT's and AD's "offensive ceilings" during the predraft process. They looked too much at scoring production and not enough at their actual ability, physical tools, and coordination. Ayton would have to be the laziest prospect since Anthony Bennett to not be an impact rim-protector at the next level with his gifts.

You watch him or nah? Mental tools are part of a player's ability. It's not even necessarily a motor issue. He has no feel.

[emunney]

For what's it's worth I don't have a great sense of what people's expectations are on Ayton so I don't know if I agree that he's being massively overrated. I certainly agree that he's a freak athlete and is huge and that will translate to disrupting some plays even if he's got his head up his ass all the time, which he doesn't. I wouldn't say he's worse off defensively than Bagley. And like I said earlier, I think there are enough players that he'll physically dominate that he should be a pretty good player overall regardless.

That said, his overall awareness issues are a problem, and they're going to explain the gap between the kinds of numbers he's going to put up ("giant") and his actual overall contribution to his team.

[ReasonablySober]

For what's it's worth I don't have a great sense of what people's expectations are on Ayton so I don't know if I agree that he's being massively overrated. I certainly agree that he's a freak athlete and is huge and that will translate to disrupting some plays even if he's got his head up his ass all the time, which he doesn't. I wouldn't say he's worse off defensively than Bagley. And like I said earlier, I think there are enough players that he'll physically dominate that he should be a pretty good player overall regardless.

That said, his overall awareness issues are a problem, and they're going to explain the gap between the kinds of numbers he's going to put up ("giant") and his actual overall contribution to his team.

I didn't watch him much this season. Is Boogie a comparison in terms of impact?

[emunney]

For what's it's worth I don't have a great sense of what people's expectations are on Ayton so I don't know if I agree that he's being massively overrated. I certainly agree that he's a freak athlete and is huge and that will translate to disrupting some plays even if he's got his head up his ass all the time, which he doesn't. I wouldn't say he's worse off defensively than Bagley. And like I said earlier, I think there are enough players that he'll physically dominate that he should be a pretty good player overall regardless.

That said, his overall awareness issues are a problem, and they're going to explain the gap between the kinds of numbers he's going to put up ("giant") and his actual overall contribution to his team.

I didn't watch him much this season. Is Boogie a comparison in terms of impact?

That scans for me, not to say they have a ton in common as players.

[LuessiT]

I like Schofield. Probably not at #17, but I do like him. Late first rounder for me. He can stretch the floor enough, defend 3 positions and is a plus rebounder.

Watch on YouTube

Also Cody Wright does a great job of providing video footage for draft nerds. Good stuff.

[knoxcreek]

I'm not reading thru the prev 40 pages to see if sum1 already brought this up, but what are the chances that Thon or Giannis's brothers end up on are G league team? I think they are both 1 or 2 yrs away at least, but sum1 kinda said that about Giannis orginally and we know how that turned out.....just sayin

[LuessiT]

I'm not reading thru the prev 40 pages to see if sum1 already brought this up, but what are the chances that Thon or Giannis's brothers end up on are G league team? I think they are both 1 or 2 yrs away at least, but sum1 kinda said that about Giannis orginally and we know how that turned out.....just sayin

0 chance either gets drafted based on skill imo.

[knoxcreek]

I'm not reading thru the prev 40 pages to see if sum1 already brought this up, but what are the chances that Thon or Giannis's brothers end up on are G league team? I think they are both 1 or 2 yrs away at least, but sum1 kinda said that about Giannis orginally and we know how that turned out.....just sayin

0 chance either gets drafted based on skill imo.

That is why they could both be added as g league prospects. I would hope they dont get drafted!

[leroyjw10]

Pick anyone that can hit a freaking 3 consistently. Pick the BSA (Best Shooter Available).

This is where I’m at. Weirdly, there are very few guards/wings who are anywhere close to proven shooters. That’s one of the main reasons I like Holiday: over 40% every year.

[WiscoKing13]

Haven't paid any attention to this years draft and about 2 weeks ago purchased ESPN insider for Givony. Am I completely missing something on the site? When I click into the player there's just the basic stat page from college and nothing else.

[TroyD92]

People are forgetting how awful PG was before the Bledsoe trade I see.

Brogdon and the starters was not terrible from what I remember.

I mean everything after Brogdon.

Delly was the only other pg on the team and he was hot garbage.

[emunney]

I'm not reading thru the prev 40 pages to see if sum1 already brought this up, but what are the chances that Thon or Giannis's brothers end up on are G league team? I think they are both 1 or 2 yrs away at least, but sum1 kinda said that about Giannis orginally and we know how that turned out.....just sayin

I don't think it's out of the question that Kostas will get a 2-way.

[emunney]

I like Schofield. Probably not at #17, but I do like him. Late first rounder for me. He can stretch the floor enough, defend 3 positions and is a plus rebounder.

Watch on YouTube

Also Cody Wright does a great job of providing video footage for draft nerds. Good stuff.

He's a lot like Semi. Easy to imagine him carving out a role. Matter of finding an opportunity for him.

[Garbs_7]

Pick anyone that can hit a freaking 3 consistently. Pick the BSA (Best Shooter Available).

That's the type of attitude that gets Luke Kennard drafted ahead of Donovan Mitchell