2018 Trade Ideas thread

[Landsberger]

George to Lakers
LBJ to Hou to play with Paul/Harden
Spurs trade KL to Knicks Porzingiz dude

Lakers will probably have to get DAJ OR wait for 2019 for our/their 2nd star player unless you count IT as that star player

Bron's stealth team is Philadelphia I'd guess. He stays in the weaker East and has a more advanced younger team that is pretty balanced and deeper. Their missing piece is him. Here we'd have a level of redundancy if we added him.

[PKABOOICU]

George to Lakers
LBJ to Hou to play with Paul/Harden
Spurs trade KL to Knicks Porzingiz dude

Lakers will probably have to get DAJ OR wait for 2019 for our/their 2nd star player unless you count IT as that star player

As much as I hate to say it, this is a very likely scenario. But I really hope the Lakers put a package together for Kawhi Leonard.

[TylersLakers]

I think George will be here. And if we get that domino to fall, we're in a good spot.

I would absolutely put Ingram, Hart, and a future pick on the table for Kawhi, provided he's healthy. The article this morning from Ramona Shelburne puts that health aspect into question.

As far as George though, this year couldn't have gone any better for us. We looked like an up-and-coming, fun team with lots of team camaraderie. We have unselfish players and a good core of young players/role players established. We have a clear style of play with an offensive system based on ball movement that got better and better throughout the season until the injuries late. Oklahoma City, on the other hand, has looked dysfunctional on the court and reduced George to a role player basically while his co-star jacked up 40+ shot attempts in a playoff series twice.

If George doesn't sign this off-season, he never was going to in the first place and I'm totally comfortable with that.

[Penberthy]

Ball IT
Kawhi IT
George Kuz
Randle Kuz
Lopez ZuBryant

[One Love]

Offering our young core for a disgruntled, possibly injured, Leaonard, makes no sense... PG is a free agent & doesn’t cost us anything, excluding money... PG puts us in the playoff picture plus another year of development for Ball, Ingram, Kuzz & Hart will give us 50 wins next season...

I would be 100% content on picking PG & filling the holes with some value veterans (Lopez, Green, Noel, KCP, etc... )...

Lakeshow Baby...

[No name]

I think George will be here. And if we get that domino to fall, we're in a good spot.

I would absolutely put Ingram, Hart, and a future pick on the table for Kawhi, provided he's healthy. The article this morning from Ramona Shelburne puts that health aspect into question.

No way. Not a chance.
To give up all of that capital just for one additional year of a guy with all sorts of questions doesn't make sense. The Lakers will not win next year with him. How about we keep the young, cost controlled capital and let the KL situation play itself out.

Ingram and Hart will likely have even more trade value if you want to bring in a guy after next season

[No name]

I think George will be here. And if we get that domino to fall, we're in a good spot.

I would absolutely put Ingram, Hart, and a future pick on the table for Kawhi, provided he's healthy. The article this morning from Ramona Shelburne puts that health aspect into question.

No way. Not a chance.
To give up all of that capital just for one additional year of a guy with all sorts of questions doesn't make sense. The Lakers will not win next year with him. How about we keep the young, cost controlled capital and let the KL situation play itself out.

Ingram and Hart will likely have even more trade value if you want to bring in a guy after next season

[TylersLakers]

I think George will be here. And if we get that domino to fall, we're in a good spot.

I would absolutely put Ingram, Hart, and a future pick on the table for Kawhi, provided he's healthy. The article this morning from Ramona Shelburne puts that health aspect into question.

No way. Not a chance.
To give up all of that capital just for one additional year of a guy with all sorts of questions doesn't make sense. The Lakers will not win next year with him. How about we keep the young, cost controlled capital and let the KL situation play itself out.

Ingram and Hart will likely have even more trade value if you want to bring in a guy after next season

Part of the reason you trade for him now, provided everything is good with his health and his desire to be here long term, is the flexibility that comes with trading for him now. Even if we sign Paul George and keep the cap hold for Randle, we still have a good chunk of money if we stretch/trade Deng. We could theoretically trade for Kawhi, sign George, keep Randle’s cap hold AND have 30M available to add to the roster of Lonzo, Kuzma, Randle, Kawhi, George, Bryant. We could spend that this summer on players to add to the roster either long term or short term.

Imagine a line-up of..

Lonzo/ IT
George/ Barton/
Kawhi/
Kuzma/
Randle/ Lopez/

Theoretically, we would even have the flexibility to absorb a bad contract and gain multiple assets.

I think this Kawhi/George plan should be Plan A. Period.

[No name]

I think George will be here. And if we get that domino to fall, we're in a good spot.

I would absolutely put Ingram, Hart, and a future pick on the table for Kawhi, provided he's healthy. The article this morning from Ramona Shelburne puts that health aspect into question.

No way. Not a chance.
To give up all of that capital just for one additional year of a guy with all sorts of questions doesn't make sense. The Lakers will not win next year with him. How about we keep the young, cost controlled capital and let the KL situation play itself out.

Ingram and Hart will likely have even more trade value if you want to bring in a guy after next season

Part of the reason you trade for him now, provided everything is good with his health and his desire to be here long term, is the flexibility that comes with trading for him now. Even if we sign Paul George and keep the cap hold for Randle, we still have a good chunk of money if we stretch/trade Deng. We could theoretically trade for Kawhi, sign George, keep Randle’s cap hold AND have 30M available to add to the roster of Lonzo, Kuzma, Randle, Kawhi, George, Bryant. We could spend that this summer on players to add to the roster either long term or short term.

Imagine a line-up of..

Lonzo/ IT
George/ Barton/
Kawhi/
Kuzma/
Randle/ Lopez/

Theoretically, we would even have the flexibility to absorb a bad contract and gain multiple assets.

I think this Kawhi/George plan should be Plan A. Period.

You said a combination of theoretically, provided and imagine four times in that post. That is an incredible amount of hopes. At the end of the day, even if all of that transpires do you think the Lakers win next year?

The cost is just too much in my opinion. There is an assumption that he'd want to play in so cal. If that's the asking price I'd prefer to let those KL questions answer themselves next year and then have the flexibility to go after him or other impact players later.

[stan francisco]

Ralon Rondo, Tyreke Evans, Trevor Ariza are all UFA. Lock them up ASAP when the market opens. Barter with PG for a reasonable deal.

Ball, Rondo, Caruso
George, Hart, Evans
Ingram, Ariza, Kuzma
LBJ, Kuzma, Wear
Lopez, Zubac, Bryant

If we land LBJ, I think Julius would be gone because Mark Cuban and the two players operate in the same space. Lopez would be the better fit at C next to Bron.

Add AD the following season. Contention.

[Spens1]

Ralon Rondo, Tyreke Evans, Trevor Ariza are all UFA. Lock them up ASAP when the market opens. Barter with PG for a reasonable deal.

Ball, Rondo, Caruso
George, Hart, Evans
Ingram, Ariza, Kuzma
LBJ, Kuzma, Wear
Lopez, Zubac, Bryant

If we land LBJ, I think Julius would be gone because Mark Cuban and the two players operate in the same space. Lopez would be the better fit at C next to Bron.

Add AD the following season. Contention.

we wouldn't have cap for Davis 1, and 2, AD is a f.a in 2020.

[Kilroy]

On record for thinking we'd be a WCF team if we just signed LeBron, and resigned Randle...

Ball
Ingram
Kuz
LeBron
Randle...

[Spens1]

On record for thinking we'd be a WCF team if we just signed LeBron, and resigned Randle...

Ball
Ingram
Kuz
LeBron
Randle...

I honestly don't think we'd be better than Houston or Golden State with that alone, they're the two best teams in the NBA arguably. We'd be probably be pushing the third seed but we wouldn't be amazing either. Also wouldn't Lebron play S.F. regardless? We'd have to add some good bench pieces and be deep to be competing in the west. If We add George + Lebron, then absolutely.

[SlimShady83]

we shouldn't be trading for Kawhi guys it's plain and simple ... If he wants to be here he can wait for a year ... No way in hell you give up BI/Kuz/Hart for him or any of the combinations above -tha'ts JUST SICK!

[Unbiased hater]

Get PG , resign Randle, sign Nurkic, sign some vets and wait 2019 to get Klay Thompson bc GS will have problems with cap space and their players will want big money . Dont trade Kuzma bc he is one off the best scorers in the league and only players from our young core that we should use in trades are Ingram , Hart and picks but only if we get player(s) that will improve our team .

[PKABOOICU]

On record for thinking we'd be a WCF team if we just signed LeBron, and resigned Randle...

Ball
Ingram
Kuz
LeBron
Randle...

Not a single guy with a reliable jump shot outside of Kuzma. Looks good on paper, but we'd probably get run out of the gym in 6 games by the Warriors. Might be able to hang with the Rockets though.
Honestly, Id try my best to sign Lebron and trade for Kawhi in the offseason, even if it means letting go of Ingram or Kuzma plus a sign and trade of Randle.
Insert Kawhi at 3 and Lebron at 4, and probably resign Brook Lopez for a lesser amount.

Ball
Ingram or Kuzma
Kawhi
Lebron
Lopez

[LAKESHOW]

Watching several rounds of these playoffs so far, or games rather, it is clear to me the need for shooters in the playoffs. Teams that have snipers, bombers and 3men from the outside are deadly successful. Even with the pace slowed down for playoff pace. Shooters are a huge advantage vs those who dont. Meaning, I'm leaning more and more keeping around a guy like Kuzma. A Thompson like shooter. We've gotta keep those type of guys in house, is my read and what I'm getting from these latest rounds of playoff games.

[Penberthy]

On record for thinking we'd be a WCF team if we just signed LeBron, and resigned Randle...

Ball
Ingram
Kuz
LeBron
Randle...

I honestly don't think we'd be better than Houston or Golden State with that alone, they're the two best teams in the NBA arguably. We'd be probably be pushing the third seed but we wouldn't be amazing either. Also wouldn't Lebron play S.F. regardless? We'd have to add some good bench pieces and be deep to be competing in the west. If We add George + Lebron, then absolutely.

If we did that, couldn't you also assume we'd re-up Lopez and IT on whatever size 1 yr deal is required.

[Kilroy]

Watching several rounds of these playoffs so far, or games rather, it is clear to me the need for shooters in the playoffs. Teams that have snipers, bombers and 3men from the outside are deadly successful. Even with the pace slowed down for playoff pace. Shooters are a huge advantage vs those who dont. Meaning, I'm leaning more and more keeping around a guy like Kuzma. A Thompson like shooter. We've gotta keep those type of guys in house, is my read and what I'm getting from these latest rounds of playoff games.

Problem with Kuzma is he doesn't seem to want to be "Just a Shooter." He wants to be the star of the team. If someone could kick him in the ass and convince him his ceiling is Klay and not Kobe, I think he'd have a much better career.

As far as lineups go though, we have to assume guys like Ball Ingram and Randle will just naturally become better shooters as their careers go on... Ingram was starting to hit jumpers pretty well and seemed to realize doing so was making the game easier for him. Ball won't stay in the league long if he can't shoot better than he did last season, so he's bound to get a whole lot better, and Randle has clearly been focusing on developing a reliable jumper, and now that his body's right, I think it's safe to assume he'll be at least a little more of a shooter.
And pure shooters aren't that rare in the NBA... So if you need a guy that can spot shoot, you could pick him up after the big names settle.

All of which is to say, sure if you can get Leonard on the cheap, and for me that's either Ingram or Kuzma and the first with Deng for KL... You have to do it... And you don't worry about losing Ingram OR Kuz in the process.
But if we can't get that, going all in for LeBron alone would make us really damned good, especially if we could keep Randle... And signing PG would just be a bonus...

I think we need the Killer that LeBron has become more than we need both PG and Kawhi... Those 2 are great players, but I don't think you're winning anything if they're the best players on your team. And I'm not sure how big the gap is between what they provide and what a guy like Ingram provides.

[thankyouKOBE]

Anyone think we should go after Jahlil Okafor? Phillie declined his option, so he's in the pool this summer, hands free.

Magic Johnson was in love with him and then we took my boy D'Lo instead. Now, Magic is in control. Nets seem to be on the fence about keeping him; that, and they're in salary cap hell taking every other team's high-dollar rejects (Crabbe, Carroll, Mosgov). Reportedly they can only offer him 6 million, and again, not sure they even want to.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/trade-grades-jahlil-okafor-resurrect-career-nets/story?id=51655603
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2473580-pros-and-cons-of-jahlil-okafor-for-los-angeles-lakers-in-the-2015-nba-draft

I've seen people say his defense is a record low, but the kid has talent and needs a full season of support from a team. He's not Embiid, but he's close.

Would you want us to nab him on a modest contract? Maybe ditch Randle.