ImageImage

Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Moderators: dms269, HMFFL, Jamaaliver

Are you happy with the draft?

Yes
13
52%
No
12
48%
 
Total votes: 25

User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,286
And1: 17,224
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2561 » by Jamaaliver » Thu May 3, 2018 1:36 pm

jayu70 wrote:With the Suns hiring Korkosov, does this mean they're more apt to draft Doncic?


100%


Read on Twitter
User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,286
And1: 17,224
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2562 » by Jamaaliver » Thu May 3, 2018 1:36 pm

Read on Twitter
atlantabbq99
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,177
And1: 1,755
Joined: Mar 28, 2013

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2563 » by atlantabbq99 » Thu May 3, 2018 2:03 pm

Atlanta will get the #1 pick.

Hawks are the only NBA team that has never had the #1 pick.

The NBA has had 51 draft lotteries so far.

Mathematically, by the law of averages, Atlanta will get the #1 pick.
User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,286
And1: 17,224
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2564 » by Jamaaliver » Thu May 3, 2018 2:12 pm

Image
User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,286
And1: 17,224
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2565 » by Jamaaliver » Thu May 3, 2018 6:29 pm

Wendell Carter, Duke, freshman
6-10, 260, age 19, C/PF


Why he's rated so highly: Oodles of potential are the main reason. He won't turn 20 until after the 2018-19 regular season is finished (birthday is April 16, 1999). He has a good mix of size and speed and can pass, shoot and handle the ball well for a big man.

What stands out most is his efficiency. He hit 58 percent of his shots from inside the arc and 46 percent from outside it. He is long on fundamentals, but not necessarily flashy. Think Al Horford, although Carter has a long way to go to reach that level. Both of his parents were basketball players, his 6-5 mother playing at Ole Miss. Carter may not have the sizzle, but his game is pure steak.


Why he's not higher: The biggest problem is that there are so many big men in this draft that somebody has to fall. Plus the league is preoccupied with faster, smaller players in this era. There's only one other problem: his defense. The Blue Devils played a lot of zone in part because Carter had trouble switching in the pick and roll or staying with his man. It's something that can be taught, but he's going to have to work on it. And, despite decent speed, he's not a real threat on the fast break. Might be more dangerous as a trailer than somebody who streaks to the rim.


Final thoughts: We like this kind of player. He's solid, pure and simple. And those kinds of players tend to stick around and have very productive careers. Maybe not an All-Star, but the kind of player who can help you win games rather than helping you lose them.
Dallas News
tbhawksfan1
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,278
And1: 2,659
Joined: May 23, 2015

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2566 » by tbhawksfan1 » Thu May 3, 2018 9:11 pm

Hey Jamaal, I'm 100% with you on Carter. Love to add him. Wouldn't trade back unless it's too good to be true. We need top talent and the point of tanking is to get the best ergo top picks.

I say TS needs to earn the praise that some are giving him by adding another top 10 and landing Carter with our second pick
DirtybirdGA
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,481
And1: 1,998
Joined: Mar 28, 2005
Location: Augusta
   

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2567 » by DirtybirdGA » Thu May 3, 2018 9:52 pm

Didn't ATL have David Thompson #1 in 1975?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1975.html
Where the offseason has more buzz happens.
MaceCase
General Manager
Posts: 8,363
And1: 2,483
Joined: Apr 08, 2009
       

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2568 » by MaceCase » Fri May 4, 2018 12:10 am

DirtybirdGA wrote:Didn't ATL have David Thompson #1 in 1975?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1975.html

He was also drafted 1st overall and opted to go to the ABA in the same year. His rights were traded to the Nuggets and when the ABA and NBA merged a season later he remained with the Nuggets. So in true Atlanta fashion they drafted a player #1 overall who never played for them.
*WLONC*
We Like Our New Core
jayu70
RealGM
Posts: 20,342
And1: 12,949
Joined: Mar 11, 2014
   

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2569 » by jayu70 » Fri May 4, 2018 12:26 am

MaceCase wrote:
DirtybirdGA wrote:Didn't ATL have David Thompson #1 in 1975?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1975.html

He was also drafted 1st overall and opted to go to the ABA in the same year. His rights were traded to the Nuggets and when the ABA and NBA merged a season later he remained with the Nuggets. So in true Atlanta fashion they drafted a player #1 overall who never played for them.

Such an Atlanta thing.
Spud2nique
General Manager
Posts: 8,715
And1: 5,139
Joined: Jul 01, 2017

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2570 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 4, 2018 12:28 am

Bill Russell and Julius Erving was worse.
DirtybirdGA
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,481
And1: 1,998
Joined: Mar 28, 2005
Location: Augusta
   

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2571 » by DirtybirdGA » Fri May 4, 2018 12:43 am

Yeah that's what I thought, I guess folks just wanted to exclude Thompson after what followed.
Where the offseason has more buzz happens.
King Ken
General Manager
Posts: 9,773
And1: 5,480
Joined: Jul 01, 2014
   

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2572 » by King Ken » Fri May 4, 2018 5:06 am

My Hawks board is still the same:

1. Bagley
2. Ayton
3. Bamba
4. Doncic
5. Porter Jr.
6. Mikal B.
7. Miles B.
8. Carter Jr.
9. JJJ
10. Sexton

I would prefer we avoid JJJ and I would take Trae Young over him considering what we have and what we are doing. That said, the player I think could shoot up my top 10 board is Porter Jr. It is said that will play in the 5v5 at the NBA Combine. If he does and plays well, he could move up. He is still the one player that plays this style of Basketball, can fit our personnel grouping and is a #1 option. I really feel like a #1 option is critical. You must have one in this league. I am also extremely high on Bamba and I really want to see what he does in workouts. Bagley, Ayton, and Doncic, I am pretty sold on them and know what they bring and what are their improvement areas.
Spud2nique
General Manager
Posts: 8,715
And1: 5,139
Joined: Jul 01, 2017

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2573 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 4, 2018 6:53 am

King Ken wrote:My Hawks board is still the same:

1. Bagley
2. Ayton
3. Bamba
4. Doncic
5. Porter Jr.
6. Mikal B.
7. Miles B.
8. Carter Jr.
9. JJJ
10. Sexton

I would prefer we avoid JJJ and I would take Trae Young over him considering what we have and what we are doing. That said, the player I think could shoot up my top 10 board is Porter Jr. It is said that will play in the 5v5 at the NBA Combine. If he does and plays well, he could move up. He is still the one player that plays this style of Basketball, can fit our personnel grouping and is a #1 option. I really feel like a #1 option is critical. You must have one in this league. I am also extremely high on Bamba and I really want to see what he does in workouts. Bagley, Ayton, and Doncic, I am pretty sold on them and know what they bring and what are their improvement areas.



Interesting take. It’s different than a lot of mocks out there which is kind of a breath of fresh air. Having said that, here’s mine. (subject to change)


1. Luka Doncic
2. Deandre Ayton
3. Marvin Bagley
4. Michael Porter Jr.
5. Trae Young
6. Mo Bamba
7. M. Bridges
8. JJJ
9. Wendell Carter
10. Collin Sexton
Spud2nique
General Manager
Posts: 8,715
And1: 5,139
Joined: Jul 01, 2017

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2574 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 4, 2018 7:09 am

They have us getting Bagley, Gary Trent jr and Anfernee Simons. I’m not mad. Don’t love the Trent pick at 20 but we could do worse.


https://www.yardbarker.com/mobile/content/article/s1__26337689
User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,286
And1: 17,224
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2575 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 4, 2018 5:13 pm

Apparently, mathematically...we're most likely to end up picking 5th in the draft.

Interesting that we bear a better chance of getting the #1 pick than getting the #4.

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter
Spud2nique
General Manager
Posts: 8,715
And1: 5,139
Joined: Jul 01, 2017

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2576 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 5, 2018 4:44 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Apparently, mathematically...we're most likely to end up picking 5th in the draft.

Interesting that we bear a better chance of getting the #1 pick than getting the #4.

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter



Ya we touched on this 3 weeks ago when they did the tiebreakers. Initially I thought it was a mistake. I thought getting 4th was a higher % for us than 5th...guess not.
User avatar
ATL Boy
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 10,959
And1: 4,005
Joined: May 15, 2011
Location: Atlanta GA
       

Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2577 » by ATL Boy » Sat May 5, 2018 2:38 pm

I'm still really high on Bamba as well, dude has unicorn attributes and if his ceiling really is a Gobert who plays better offense than that would make him one of the most valuable players in the league. The 7'9 wingspan is something to drool over.

If we miss out on Doncic and Ayton then I'd have no problem taking Mohamed as high as 3.


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
SichtingLives wrote:life hack:

When a man heaves a live chainsaw towards you from distance, stand still. No one has good accuracy throwing a chainsaw.
Spud2nique
General Manager
Posts: 8,715
And1: 5,139
Joined: Jul 01, 2017

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2578 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 5, 2018 3:50 pm

ATL Boy wrote:I'm still really high on Bamba as well, dude has unicorn attributes and if his ceiling really is a Gobert who plays better offense than that would make him one of the most valuable players in the league. The 7'9 wingspan is something to drool over.

If we miss out on Doncic and Ayton then I'd have no problem taking Mohamed as high as 3.


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums


Well that worked out well for you in this mock.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774257-2018-nba-mock-draft-predictions-for-elite-frontcourt-prospects?share=other
User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,286
And1: 17,224
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2579 » by Jamaaliver » Sat May 5, 2018 4:47 pm

This poor boy. GETTING terrible advice from a fool...

Read on Twitter
User avatar
Jamaaliver
Forum Mod - Hawks
Forum Mod - Hawks
Posts: 45,286
And1: 17,224
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
Location: Officially a citizen of the World...
Contact:
     

Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2580 » by Jamaaliver » Sat May 5, 2018 4:50 pm

But LiAngelo isn't the only kid getting bad advice.

Read on Twitter

Return to Atlanta Hawks