ECSF: P2 | (2) Boston Celtics vs Philadelphia 76ers (3) | BOS 3-0

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Series Prediction

Celtics in 4
39
15%
Celtics in 5
49
18%
Celtics in 6
55
21%
Celtics in 7
54
20%
76ers in 7
14
5%
76ers in 6
45
17%
76ers in 5
10
4%
 
Total votes: 266

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Post#3241 » by Roddy » Sun May 6, 2018 1:09 am

DROB27 wrote:Why wasn’t Embiid on Horford on that one possession :crazy:


Because Stevens is a great coach maybe...

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Post#3242 » by TinmanZBoy » Sun May 6, 2018 1:10 am

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****, you'd be lost too after back to back games you should've won but threw away like a turnover.


why not just own the mistakes... instead talking round and round, with no point to address...
Great coaches are very collected all times... again, he is a good coach, but for your team to be great in the future, he has to go...


Cuz he doesn't owe it to anyone in the media or any of us fans to admit them. He's under the Poppovich tree. I wouldn't tell the media **** neither.

That whole owing up to your mistakes is meant for the locker room when it's just you and your team.


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Post#3243 » by antonac » Sun May 6, 2018 1:11 am

people are way over-stating how good Tatum was rated prior to the draft, remember, aigne not only traded down for him, he passed on Josh Jackson who was the presumed 3.

you can't say philly blundered in regards to not taking Tatum, they usually go BPA and to most that was Jackson, they probably felt they didn't need a defensive wing and wanted to put shooters round Embiid and Simmons.

also, simmons being this capable running an offense (at least in the RS) couldn't be 100% counted on, so it wasn't the worst idea to get a PG in with the view they could bung simmons in at the 3 or 4.
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Post#3244 » by BenSimmonsStan » Sun May 6, 2018 1:12 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:
BenSimmonsStan wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
why not just own the mistakes... instead talking round and round, with no point to address...
Great coaches are very collected all times... again, he is a good coach, but for your team to be great in the future, he has to go...


Cuz he doesn't owe it to anyone in the media or any of us fans to admit them. He's under the Poppovich tree. I wouldn't tell the media **** neither.

That whole owing up to your mistakes is meant for the locker room when it's just you and your team.


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Post#3245 » by CobraCommander » Sun May 6, 2018 1:14 am

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:This is unprescendented. The more talented team down 0-3 and choked all 3 games away to a very shorthanded team. With Kyrie+Hayward they will win the east anyway, but without? Sixers should be embarrassed.


By what metric is Philly more talented? Even hurt, the Celtics have more depth, and aren’t relying on buyout guys for major minutes.


Forget your metrics...Simmons and Embiid had people saying they were going to the finals. The Celtics have fine players...the sixers have transcended talent. Jingles is right...period...think this...would anyone take Kyrie and Hayward over Embiid and Simmons? No..so next year if these teams meet the sixers may have the two best players in that series. :( :noway:
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Post#3246 » by DEEP3CL » Sun May 6, 2018 1:14 am

BenSimmonsStan wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
BenSimmonsStan wrote:
****, you'd be lost too after back to back games you should've won but threw away like a turnover.


why not just own the mistakes... instead talking round and round, with no point to address...
Great coaches are very collected all times... again, he is a good coach, but for your team to be great in the future, he has to go...


Cuz he doesn't owe it to anyone in the media or any of us fans to admit them. He's under the Poppovich tree. I wouldn't tell the media **** neither.

That whole owing up to your mistakes is meant for the locker room when it's just you and your team.
I've seen many coaches go to the media session and admit if they didn't have their team prepared. Him not admitting it now is just his own insecurity.
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Post#3247 » by Andy123 » Sun May 6, 2018 1:15 am

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Max Headrom wrote:you Sixers fans have been cocky all season and honestly for no good reason


We've been happy to have a good team with good players.

God forbid.

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Post#3248 » by TheNewEra » Sun May 6, 2018 1:16 am

Brown is all the way bad
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Post#3249 » by DEEP3CL » Sun May 6, 2018 1:16 am

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DROB27 wrote:Why wasn’t Embiid on Horford on that one possession :crazy:


Because Stevens is a great coach maybe...

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Post#3250 » by grindtime22 » Sun May 6, 2018 1:19 am

Max Headrom wrote:The fact that you can put Morris on Simmons on defense and live with it is pretty embarrassing...


I understand the thought, but that is exactly what Morris excels at. He is near elite at guarding these types of players. He is pretty strong and has excellent lateral movement. He is going to stay in front of you making him very useful defensively against the big ballhandling playmaker types. The Lebron, Giannis, Ben Simmons guys. He is hard to beat straight up with dribble penetration.

His defensive skills pretty much match up with his offensive skills. He is a good one of one player on both ends.

He is a terrible team player though. He is a black hole on offense who isn't going to swing the ball or see anybody open. The same kind of applies on defense. He isn't a very good team defender. He is going to miss rotations and is bad at pretty much anything that requires floor vision or court awareness.
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Post#3251 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun May 6, 2018 1:19 am

Rookies in the semifinals

Mitchell 48 points on 19/59 shooting
Simmons 35 points on 14/29 shooting
Tatum 73 points on 31/47 shooting

Mitchell 18 months older, Simmons 20 months older than JT

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Post#3252 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun May 6, 2018 1:19 am

nurseryc wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:This is unprescendented. The more talented team down 0-3 and choked all 3 games away to a very shorthanded team. With Kyrie+Hayward they will win the east anyway, but without? Sixers should be embarrassed.


The Celtics are a better team with Rozier in and Kyrie our. Fact! I believe if Kyrie and Hayward were healthy this season they wouldn’t have been a better team. Would have restricted the emergence of better and more talented players on the Celtics roster.


I agree.

I would truly rather have Jayson Tatum than Gordon Hayward. I posted in the Boston forum many months back I thought Tatum was already better.

Certain guys move off the ball and play defense at a high level. They score points with low usage and they're great team players.

I do not think Boston's going to be better when Kyrie and Hayward come back. There's only one basketball and the better defenders are in there right now.
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Post#3253 » by Higgs Boston » Sun May 6, 2018 1:20 am

Sixers need another wing to play small ball yes, but they need a PG or SG that can guard PGs, help as a scorer and playmaker, and play off the ball too, and that player was supposed to be fultz. It's likely you will lose against a team with an elite PG if you don't have a starting calibre player who can guard him. Even if they sign george or get leonard, they need to fix that.
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Post#3254 » by Novocaine » Sun May 6, 2018 1:20 am

Master Ze wrote:
Ben-N1ce wrote:Stevens should be COTY for winning games with black hole Morris on offense

He had a bad game but I wouldn't say he's anything close to a black hole. His RS and PS percentages have been great thus far.


What are the RS and PS percentages?

Morris is definitely a black-hole. Not on that young Zach Randolph level, but right below.
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Post#3255 » by Chuck-Cheese » Sun May 6, 2018 1:21 am

Hugi Mancura wrote:
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gp2015 wrote:This is Raptors level choking.


I don't understand this. Everyone laughed when Vegas suggested the Sixers might be a .500 team this season. Now they're supposed to go to the finals in year one.

Everyone also agrees that Brad Stevens is a great coach, and Celtics fans certainly think that Horford, Brown, Tatum and Rozier are very good to elite level talents.

They got outplayed in the second round. Cool.


Agree with this. 76ers goal probably was playoffs. The end of regular season when they mostly played against teams that wanted to lose gave little too high expectations. Add great series vs Miami and every one thought they would be finalist or at least ECF (me included). But they decided to do what young teams do and forget how to play winning basketball. Now they play like what people expected them to do at the beginning of the season. Only thing this game showed us is that Boston players have all ready been here. Only Tatum has no playoff experience. 76ers have 3 key players with no playoff experience and it showed. And with exception of Belinelli none their players have been succesfull in playoffs. This season will be a successful season for 76ers even you can say these games vs Boston have been abysmal showing from the team. Partly because of Boston defense and partly because they just messed thing up.
makes scene - Tatum, Brown and rozier are using their vast playoff experience to dominate this series. We should expect the ame from Fultz next year
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Post#3256 » by Stanford » Sun May 6, 2018 1:22 am

Andy123 wrote:Its your role as mod to get your guys humble.


I'm a mod on the pro wrestling board. Humble has a different meaning in that world.

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Post#3257 » by BenSimmonsStan » Sun May 6, 2018 1:22 am

DEEP3CL wrote:
BenSimmonsStan wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
why not just own the mistakes... instead talking round and round, with no point to address...
Great coaches are very collected all times... again, he is a good coach, but for your team to be great in the future, he has to go...


Cuz he doesn't owe it to anyone in the media or any of us fans to admit them. He's under the Poppovich tree. I wouldn't tell the media **** neither.

That whole owing up to your mistakes is meant for the locker room when it's just you and your team.
I've seen many coaches go to the media session and admit if they didn't have their team prepared. Him not admitting it now is just his own insecurity.


How so? The team was more than prepared these last two games. You can't blame Brown for every miscue done by his players. You can't blame Brown for Jo not giving the rest he had in the tank to get in position against an Al Horford who's been in the league enough to know what was coming. You can't blame Brown for Ben not being aggressive and being passive in a time where the C's are begging him to keep driving. You can't blame Brown for RoCo and Saric not showing up at all. You can't blame Brown for Redick deciding to have zero iq on the court in those final turnovers.

The list goes on and on. The team was prepared and did not execute. If the execution was there the series is 2-1 Philly favor and you guys would probably be calling on the C's to own their mistakes.

The fact is, nobody in the NBA has to tell us anything. First and foremost you own up to your mistakes in front of your teammates like the grown man you are. Not go on TV so the media and forum posters can make you feel good about yourself because "you did the right thing", which more often than not is the wrong thing in these situations.
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Post#3258 » by Arsenal » Sun May 6, 2018 1:23 am

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Because Stevens is a great coach maybe...

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Post#3259 » by Stanford » Sun May 6, 2018 1:23 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Rookies in the semifinals

Mitchell 48 points on 19/59 shooting
Simmons 35 points on 14/29 shooting
Tatum 73 points on 31/47 shooting

Mitchell 18 months older, Simmons 20 months older than JT

Crazy.


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