ECSF: P3 | (1) Toronto Raptors vs Cleveland Cavaliers (4) | CLE wins 4-0

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Who wins the series?

Cavs in 4
130
73%
Cavs in 5
13
7%
Cavs in 6
4
2%
Cavs in 7
1
1%
Raptors in 6
2
1%
Raptors in 7
28
16%
 
Total votes: 178

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Post#401 » by LeBird » Sun May 6, 2018 1:58 am

Kordic27 wrote:All I’m saying is call it the same both ways. If you think this is the case, you’re a Cavs fan. If you don’t think this is the case, you’re a fan of any team in the league except the Cavs.


"If you agree with me you're in line with the rest of us, if you don't you're just a Cavs fan" :lol: and you want to be taken seriously.

They got the right call, that's all that should matter to you if you're unbiased.
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Post#402 » by And1+2 » Sun May 6, 2018 1:58 am

Lowry would be a great point guard on a team with a superstar. He does not want to be the first option, never did.
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Post#403 » by Kabookalu » Sun May 6, 2018 1:58 am

Latrell wrote:Good news for the Raptors is if they decide to rid themselves of the KL ,DD, Ibaka core they are in great shape for a quick rebuild .


If we can just get rid of Lowry I'll be happy. At least DeMar and Ibaka are consistent in how bad/mediocre they are, and their output depends on how hot they are on the field. Lowry on the other hand, I'm tired of his play always declining in the playoffs. It's not even about making shots, but the high IQ plays, the grit, the bulldog mentality, the ones that makes us win games and has the Raptors in it with the best of teams during the regular season.

Then in the playoffs he becomes soft and passive. He became more of a playmaker this regular season and made some great plays setting teammates up for shots, but he's not doing that either now. Such a frustrating player. He's the reason why we overachieve in the regular season, but underachieve in the playoffs.
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Re: ECSF: P3 | (1) Toronto Raptors vs Cleveland Cavaliers (4) | CLE 2-0 

Post#404 » by Badlands » Sun May 6, 2018 1:58 am

DeKobe10 wrote:14 fouls to 8

that's what causes momentum swings, oh and lebron bitching.

if i was masai i'd refuse to play the second half and forfeit the game. let the image of the league burn.


Or it could be that they actually committed far more fouls. It's obvious the Raptors have made a concerted effort to be more physical.

BTW, LeBron has been hacked at least twice with no foul called.
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Post#405 » by King Ken » Sun May 6, 2018 1:59 am

infinite11285 wrote:Casey's "adjustment" to go smaller by starting FVV not only played right into Cleveland's hands, it also discombobulated the flow of the Raptors entire rotation. The bench unit didn't have that 'spark' it typically does because FVV wasn't running that unit. Couple that with DeRozan completely disappearing, and this is the result.

What would you suggest with Ibaka struggling?
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Post#406 » by massive attack » Sun May 6, 2018 1:59 am

Oh look, another DeRozan disappearing act... how many playoffs is it gonna take for this guy to actually do something.
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Post#407 » by infinite11285 » Sun May 6, 2018 1:59 am

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infinite11285 wrote:FVV 1-4 FG
DD 1-9 FG, 3 turnovers
KL 2-5 FG, 3 turnovers
Ibaka 1-4 FG

That's your ball game right there.


Omg - ugh...didn’t realize the were shooting that bad.


Starting FVV was a terrible move, IMO.
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Post#408 » by basketball royalty » Sun May 6, 2018 2:00 am

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So what the right call was made. They haven't been giving that calls to players this year. It's just heighten now because this whole thread is filled with crying.


Not sure why you say they haven't been giving that game to players all year when they really have. Again, when was the foul called? If it was while he was catching it, then it was the wrong call. If it was before, then fine, the right call was made...and then was changed because of the lobbying from LeBron.


Ok I'll step back and agree it's been inconsistent, but I watched games on league pass all year and players haven't been getting that continuation call. I just don't see a big deal about this reversing it after the "review".


They review that because LeBron grabbed the ball and demanded they review it.

Kevin Love gets away with a flagrant and Casey gets slapped with a tech for asking for a review.

Consistency is key and refs consistently give the call to the Cavs
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Post#409 » by ButCanMarkDunk » Sun May 6, 2018 2:01 am

Blow the entire team up.
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Post#410 » by Ugalde » Sun May 6, 2018 2:01 am

massive attack wrote:Oh look, another DeRozan disappearing act... how many playoffs is it gonna take for this guy to actually do something.

It’s because every year the GOD DAMN REFS SCREW him!!!
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Post#411 » by Kordic27 » Sun May 6, 2018 2:01 am

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Kordic27 wrote:All I’m saying is call it the same both ways. If you think this is the case, you’re a Cavs fan. If you don’t think this is the case, you’re a fan of any team in the league except the Cavs.


"If you agree with me you're in line with the rest of us, if you don't you're just a Cavs fan" :lol: and you want to be taken seriously.

They got the right call, that's all that should matter to you if you're unbiased.


I’m not sure what you’re not getting here. I’ll try to be as simple as you’re able to understand: fair would be calling it the same for each team. Can we agree on that?
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Post#412 » by And1+2 » Sun May 6, 2018 2:01 am

Kabookalu wrote:
Latrell wrote:Good news for the Raptors is if they decide to rid themselves of the KL ,DD, Ibaka core they are in great shape for a quick rebuild .


If we can just get rid of Lowry I'll be happy. At least DeMar and Ibaka are consistent in how bad/mediocre they are, and their output depends on how hot they are on the field. Lowry on the other hand, I'm tired of his play always declining in the playoffs. It's not even about making shots, but the high IQ plays, the grit, the bulldog mentality, the ones that makes us win games and has the Raptors in it with the best of teams during the regular season.

Then in the playoffs he becomes soft and passive. He became more of a playmaker this regular season and made some great plays setting teammates up for shots, but he's not doing that either now. Such a frustrating player. He's the reason why we overachieve in the regular season, but underachieve in the playoffs.


If Lowry had a superstar next to him, it would change everything. Instead he has DeTrash...

Lowry is not a first option. If he was riding the coat tails of a Superstar's confidence, he would be scary good.
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Post#413 » by PhilBlackson » Sun May 6, 2018 2:01 am

And1+2 wrote:Lowry would be a great point guard on a team with a superstar. He does not want to be the first option, never did.


Nah he's washed.

Maybe a couple of years ago when he was a bit quicker n played with more ferocity. Now he's reduced his game mainly to being a spot jump shooter n many are bad shot selection ie/ bringing the ball up for a quick pull up 3 with a full shot clock as he loves to do.
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Post#414 » by Lovethisgamegr » Sun May 6, 2018 2:01 am

NBAFan93 wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:FVV 1-4 FG
DD 1-9 FG, 3 turnovers
KL 2-5 FG, 3 turnovers
Ibaka 1-4 FG

That's your ball game right there.


Omg - ugh...didn’t realize the were shooting that bad.

It's this thread.If you read this long enough you believe that Raptors are playing great but the refs have them down by 15.And all of that because of 1 call, which completely changed everything.
A call changes and an earthquake happens in Toronto which collapses into ruins, it's the updated butterfly effect theory
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Post#415 » by Hugi Mancura » Sun May 6, 2018 2:01 am

Actually I think it's positive if LeBron or other superstars can do the refereeing too. NBA can fire all the refs and then ticket prices would get down.
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Post#416 » by basketball royalty » Sun May 6, 2018 2:02 am

Badlands wrote:
DeKobe10 wrote:14 fouls to 8

that's what causes momentum swings, oh and lebron bitching.

if i was masai i'd refuse to play the second half and forfeit the game. let the image of the league burn.


Or it could be that they actually committed far more fouls. It's obvious the Raptors have made a concerted effort to be more physical.

BTW, LeBron has been hacked at least twice with no foul called.



Kevin Love is getting away with all kinds of fouls.
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Post#417 » by ButCanMarkDunk » Sun May 6, 2018 2:02 am

While I agree the calls favor the Cavs, the turnovers in a must win game are too much.

The Raps are weakest team in the NBA mentally.
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Post#418 » by igorbianch » Sun May 6, 2018 2:02 am

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Cyrusman122000 wrote:I'd give a months worth of my salary if someone on Toronto would take a shot at Kyle Korver's knees and take him out

There's never been an NBA player who irritated me to this extent
**** him


Why? Hes a good dude


I've been watching the NBA for 22 years I've never seen someone who made 3's like he does

When you cheering against him it's VERY IRRITING And enough to ruin you day
This man can't be contained and it's frustrating
I know it sounds messed up but **** it
He's pissing me off


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Post#419 » by CobraCommander » Sun May 6, 2018 2:02 am

Kyle and DD on pace to have 20 points for the game...in game 3 down 0-2. Kyle having 7 points and 5 assist isnt that bad..but it aint desperate and AMAZING...like his back is against the wall. And DD being 1-9 ...i dont mind that as much as i mind those look like a ton of BAD shots.!
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Post#420 » by mattkobe1984 » Sun May 6, 2018 2:03 am

infinite11285 wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:FVV 1-4 FG
DD 1-9 FG, 3 turnovers
KL 2-5 FG, 3 turnovers
Ibaka 1-4 FG

That's your ball game right there.


Omg - ugh...didn’t realize the were shooting that bad.


Starting FVV was a terrible move, IMO.


This it always has been miles instead of serge the good move

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